should SSR reallocate?

[rantnnravin]

does anyone else think SSR should reallocate points so that there are preferred and standard locations?

 

[bobbiwoz]

I don't own at SSR, but I have always thought that the views/distances would be so disparate that some sort of adjustment would be needed to satisfy owners.

Bobbi

 

[starbox]

I'd love a lower point option, but I don't want points to go UP elsewhere.
I also think Grandstand is a premier location. I'd say Grandstand, the Springs and Congress Park are the top three sections.

 

[SCDizneyDawn]

I think even in the preferred locations there are standard views in the rooms on the outer edge of the building that over look the parking lots. We stayed in Congress park but only had a view of the parking lot. Did not make me want to sit on the balcony and relax with my coffee like I normally do.

 

[LIFERBABE]

I love SSR, but I would support a change to the point structure.

Owners should get priority booking windows for DTD views and maybe the Preferred Golf Views of the Grandstand Buildings.

I dont think that those that complain about having to stay at SSR as their last resort should get prime locations and views, when you cant get standard views or Boardwalk views without being an owner.

I think the Carousel should be reserved for non owners booking at less than 7 months that cant get into their home resort

 

[rantnnravin]

did BWV always have standard and preferred or was there a shakeup a few years in?
i mean, is it completely unheard of to re-allocate?
it just seems to me that many seem to request Springs, DTD view, or, now Grandstand and i think there should be a points chart that reflects those "preferences"
i think if standard view was a point or two fewer and preferred view went up accordingly, i really don't think the points would be too out of whack.
that way, you get what you "want" or don't mind the trade-off of location vs points usage.
i just can't see paying the same high points amount for less of a view/location.

 

[starbox]

i just can't see paying the same high points amount for less of a view/location.

But this exists at every single resort. Everyplace has parking lot, bus-stop, or dumpster views that cost the same as other views. Unless there's a really obvious difference - like Savanna or Boardwalk views - it just seems a little excessive and complicated to try to categorize the views and points.

 

[Caskbill]

I don't understand how the Grandstand was grouped with Carrousel.

Grandstand is closer to the main pool area than sections of Congress Park or The Paddock. Also from the Grandstand it's an easy walk to the Springs bus stop, so when going to the parks there's no trip through the resort first, and when coming back from the parks, the Grandstand bus stop is the first stop.

We were at the Grandstand a week ago and thought it was a great location.

And the pool area at the Grandstand is better than any of the other satellite pools.

Not all the villas in the Congress Park area actually have DD views so charging more points for that area would meet with complaints from those who got less than DD views.

The Paddock area has great views toward the water, but are further from the Springs area. Should they pay more points for their water views?

There's something good about every area. And things less desirable about every area.

 

[rantnnravin]

I don't understand how the Grandstand was grouped with Carrousel.

that was kind of my point-- they both cost the same amount of points and yet are leagues apart.

i'm not saying to make certain sections of the resort preferred/standard, but rather if someone wants a guaranteed location/view - like BWV has bwv, preferred view and standard view

 

[dvc_john]

did BWV always have standard and preferred or was there a shakeup a few years in?
i mean, is it completely unheard of to re-allocate?

BWV started with just one category. Not too long after opening, they created the standard/preferred designations. The points stayed the same for preferred, but were lower for standard. No real re-allocation took place. They could do it without a re-allocation because they still had a long way to go in sales, and could make the adjustment via amount of points to be sold. Then still later Boardwalk view became a guaranteed view category, but no point re-allocation was necessary since the point requirement stayed the same. The only real re-allocation was at OKW (in 1996 I think?). It was fairly minimal changes, with some things going up a point or two, and others going down. No other re-allocation has taken place since.

To change SSR would take a true re-allocation (unlike BWV) since sales are probably too far along to adjust the way BWV was.

 

[pb4ugo]

that was kind of my point-- they both cost the same amount of points and yet are leagues apart.

i'm not saying to make certain sections of the resort preferred/standard, but rather if someone wants a guaranteed location/view - like BWV has bwv, preferred view and standard view

One thing I have learned about owning DVC - there are NO guarantees!

 

[bavaria]

I just returned from a stay in the 2nd to last Grandstand building to open. I was at the far end, just across from Treehouse Villas.

Frankly, I had to almost beg to get a room AWAY from the main areas. MS insisted on putting a request on my reservation to be 'close', and at check in the CM also tried to convince me to take something close in, or at least one of the closer Grandstand buildings.

I loved the solitude, and those last two buildings will always be my preference. Yet many others will find them 'too far of a walk' etc. Preference is definitely a personal thing!

 

[wisbucky]

This just goes to show you that each area at SSR has something to offer to everyone. Not everyone wants to stay near the main pool and not everyone wants to overlook DTD. DH and I love the view of DTD. Being able to sit outside in the morning and look over DTD is one of the biggest thrills for us. We want tranquility when we are at Disney in the resorts. Others want all the action right in front of them 24 hours a day. Im gald that SSR has areas that are all a little different.

 

[rantnnravin]

I loved the solitude, and those last two buildings will always be my preference. Yet many others will find them 'too far of a walk' etc. Preference is definitely a personal thing!

and wouldn't it be great if you didn't have to use as many points for them!?!

 

[jarestel]

I wouldn't mind seeing preferred and standard categories, but I don't see a need to reallocate the point structure. As LIFERBABE suggested, if SSR owners' requests were filled prior to the non-owners' requests, I believe this would be satisfactory in the majority of cases.

I actually wouldn't mind seeing all resorts go to the "owners" first system. Wouldn't be difficult to do and gives the people who actually pay the dues at a specific resort another nice benefit.

 

[CarolMN]

.....(snip)...I actually wouldn't mind seeing all resorts go to the "owners" first system. Wouldn't be difficult to do and gives the people who actually pay the dues at a specific resort another nice benefit.

I would like this, too - but I'm not so sure it would be easy to do, because apparently there are many more members who prefer to get into their rooms early (rather than getting a view request granted).

DVC used to assign rooms according to the date the reservation was made (which would give most owners view preference over non-owners who had to wait to book until the 7 month window opened). It wasn't perfect, because what was available for assignment depended on how many were available on the day you checked in and the number of requests. But the chances of getting a request were greater if you were an owner who booked early in the reservation window.

DVC reportedly said that the front desk and lobbies were innudated with people who wanted to get into a room asap (early in the day). So DVC decided to go with a "room ready" means of assigning rooms. In other words, if there are rooms that are cleaned and ready for occupancy when you check in, that's what you get. There are still some rooms that are preassigned (medical, HA requests, for example), but most are not.

 

[Dean]

As noted above, BWV did open with all rooms being the higher points costs. But when enough people complained DVD decided to lower some without raising others. They could do this be eating the $$$ and since they were still in sales. They simply sold less points than they had originally intended. We've had this discussion previously about either area requests or having a graduated points structure. I doubt DVC or the members will see it reasonable to raise points at any locations to lower others. They would have had to do that earlier in the course by selling less points just like at BWV. But what I could see happening is having different booking categories just like at BWV with the points being all the same or at AKV. And given the size of the resort, I think it's be easier and cheaper to do than most similar suggestions we see on DIS for various resort issues, esp with the all NS now. They would just have 4 or 5 categories that correspond the the various sections. That way you know exactly what you got or didn't up front. No requests, no arguing. And you could wait list for a different area if need be.

 

[Doug7856]

As noted above, BWV did open with all rooms being the higher points costs. But when enough people complained DVD decided to lower some without raising others. They could do this be eating the $$$ and since they were still in sales. They simply sold less points than they had originally intended. We've had this discussion previously about either area requests or having a graduated points structure. I doubt DVC or the members will see it reasonable to raise points at any locations to lower others. They would have had to do that earlier in the course by selling less points just like at BWV. But what I could see happening is having different booking categories just like at BWV with the points being all the same or at AKV. And given the size of the resort, I think it's be easier and cheaper to do than most similar suggestions we see on DIS for various resort issues, esp with the all NS now. They would just have 4 or 5 categories that correspond the the various sections. That way you know exactly what you got or didn't up front. No requests, no arguing. And you could wait list for a different area if need be.

This would be my choice but it wasn't an option for the poll. I would like to be able to book in a specific section and know that is where I will be staying!

 

[bobbiwoz]

Dean, are you saying when you book, you book Congress Park or Springs...same points as is, but you know that that's where you will be? I would be fine with that.

Bobbi

 

[Dean]

Dean, are you saying when you book, you book Congress Park or Springs...same points as is, but you know that that's where you will be? I would be fine with that.

Bobbi

exactly.