Should Pilots going to work be exempt from scanning by TSA?

[MiniGirl]

I disagree. How often does he bid his lines? Once a quarter? If so, he pretty much flies with the same pilot for three months at a time. In twelve years, he'd have flown with 36 other pilots if no one ever flew the same line as he did more than once. Triple that for sick outs and you come up with 108 other pilots. If he bids monthly, triple that and you have 324 pilots. Given that there are something like 30,000 commercial flights every day in the US, There could be plenty of drunk pilots flying every single day and your husband may never fly with any of them.

It's also fair to mention that my wife and I used to work ops at a major regional airline. We are aware of a number of occasions where a pilot was on a short overnight and hit the bar.

Interesting theory. I guess that we shouldn't have any gun restrictions at all, since one doesn't need a firearm to kill others. You can just mow a bunch of bystanders over with your car, after all.

Still, we forget that a person with a gun can kill others without having to kill himself. We also forget that we restricted guns on airplanes long before intentionally crashing an aircraft full of people was imagined. Surely there was a reason for that.

Again.... a pilot can legally bring a gun onto a plane, so why would s/he even try to sneak one on?

My dh bids every month. He has flown over 25 years, and has never flown drunk or flown with a drunk pilot. However, the FAA does allow a pilot to drink on a layover. The rule is 8 hours from bottle to throttle, so even if it was a short 10 hour layover, they could've been within the rules.

 

[Judy from Boise]

I have a fundamental problem with the current level of screening for passengers, so I certainly wouldn't want to mirror it for crew. I am ashamed that we have traded personal liberties for a false sense of security that is TSA.

 

[DawnCt1]

To all of you who are so deathly afraid and paranoid of all of the "terrorist, pistol packing, alcoholic drunk" pilots, please, do us a favor... Drive next time. It's MUCH safer!

TSA is not and will never be foolproof, for passengers OR flight crew. There are THOUSANDS of pilots out there, yet you focus on a chosen few.

Again, if you can't trust us with the contents of our suitcase, why would you trust us with your LIFE. Just stay home.

The whining is coming from the "it isn't fair" crowd. It doesn't have to be logical or make sense. It just has to be "fair".

 

[NEVERENOUGHWDW]

I have a fundamental problem with the current level of screening for passengers, so I certainly wouldn't want to mirror it for crew. I am ashamed that we have traded personal liberties for a false sense of security that is TSA.

It's my personal opinion that many of the individuals that are ashamed of their civil liberties being traded were no where near the sites of 9/11.
The states that were hit the hardest felt like they lived in different counties while trying to explain to friends & families in other states the feelings of dread, loss & vision of smoke that lasted for days, months & years.....

When I drive down town for gas, the post office or a quart of milk I pass a 9/11 memorial.
When 9/11 hit so closely to home & remains part of ones life day to day any sense of security is better than the removal of all security some of us felt, saw & experienced on 9/11.

For those who feel like it's a false security then I would wonder how all the attempted attacks were stopped. Pixie dust?

 

[cm8]

In this day and age, everyone regardless of if they are a pilot, flight attendant, or air marshall should be required the same screening passengers go through. I understand that they are on the job, and its what they do for a living but they shouldn't be exempt from any form of screening. If anything the people who are flying the planes and serving the passengers in flight should be setting an example.

 

[Judy from Boise]

It's my personal opinion that many of the individuals that are ashamed of their civil liberties being traded were no where near the sites of 9/11.
The states that were hit the hardest felt like they lived in different counties while trying to explain to friends & families in other states the feelings of dread, loss & vision of smoke that lasted for days, months & years.....

When I drive down town for gas, the post office or a quart of milk I pass a 9/11 memorial.
When 9/11 hit so closely to home & remains part of ones life day to day any sense of security is better than the removal of all security some of us felt, saw & experienced on 9/11.

For those who feel like it's a false security then I would wonder how all the attempted attacks were stopped. Pixie dust?

It sounds like you were hit hard by the attacks, and i would never minimize your feelings, I personally don't see how running my shoes through an x-ray scanner will prevent another 9-11. But in the meantime I feel that our "home of the brave, and land of the free" is a little less brave and free.

 

[CPT Tripss]

I have a fundamental problem with the current level of screening for passengers, so I certainly wouldn't want to mirror it for crew. I am ashamed that we have traded personal liberties for a false sense of security that is TSA.

It's my personal opinion that many of the individuals that are ashamed of their civil liberties being traded were no where near the sites of 9/11.
The states that were hit the hardest felt like they lived in different counties while trying to explain to friends & families in other states the feelings of dread, loss & vision of smoke that lasted for days, months & years.....

When I drive down town for gas, the post office or a quart of milk I pass a 9/11 memorial.
When 9/11 hit so closely to home & remains part of ones life day to day any sense of security is better than the removal of all security some of us felt, saw & experienced on 9/11.

For those who feel like it's a false security then I would wonder how all the attempted attacks were stopped. Pixie dust?

Could you name more than one attempted attack using an airliner or on an airliner that was uncovered or prevented by TSA airport security? Aware passengers, able and willing to act, stopped the attempted attacks that led to the shoe carnival and to the crotch groping that is now occurring.

 

[AKL_Megs]

Could you name more than one attempted attack using an airliner or on an airliner that was uncovered or prevented by TSA airport security? Aware passengers, able and willing to act, stopped the attempted attacks that led to the shoe carnival and to the crotch groping that is now occurring.

And they both went through security and got through with their "weapons".

And they both weren't pilots.

Nor were they training to be pilots...