Should I report this bus driver?

[Donna3271]

Then I would expect the bus driver to come back out to me and tell me that a person cannot move to a different seat.

Just curious, have you used a scooter before?

Just curious, how did you get on Space Mountain?

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

If you plopped your butt down in a restaurant that had a RESERVED sign on it and were subsequently told you had to move, would you be surprised? Upset? Then why do you get surprised and upset when you sit in those seats on a bus?

No one here had said anything of the sort. No one mentioned upset nor surprised. No one mentioned them having experienced this nor witnessed this type of situation. Making up scenarios just to try and make some bad inference about people is poor form. Like y'all stop making people out to be bad people just because you want it to be that way, the only people who look bad end up being you (general you).

 

[robinb]

Just curious, how did you get on Space Mountain?

Are you asking because you’re curious how disabled people who can’t walk ride Space Mountain? They can transfer to a wheelchair, go through the LL line, and then they must transfer down into the rocket ship.

Or, are you asking as a type of a “gotcha” question? If so, what’s your point?

 

[robinb]

Wrong, wrong, wrong. I have owned DVC for over 25 years. At closing, ECV’s always go to the designated waiting area and never the regular queue. And mobility devices are always boarded first. If I arrive after the driver has started boarding, I ask whether I can still board or if I should wait.

Not my first rodeo, been doing it for years. I’m good. You are correct it’s amazing how nasty people can be when they think they are arguing about policy.

Sorry, but you’re wrong about where scooters wait at park closing. I used to think that too, until i got “corrected” by a driver at the MK a few years ago. He told me that I should have gone through the regular line and wanted to know how big the line was when I got into the waiting area. I told him the truth but honestly can’t remember if I had to wait for another bus or not, but I do remember being embarrassed that I was singled out. Since then, I’ve paid more attention and CMs will often ask ECVs and wheelchairs to enter the regular switchback queue and pop out at the swinging gate right before boarding.

It can actually be quite confusing because you never quite know how the CMs in charge want you to queue up. We’re DVC too and usually do 10-day trips and visit each park multiple times. Sometimes they want you to go directly to the waiting area and sometimes they want you to wait in the switchback queue with everyone else. One MK closing night the CMs want one thing and the next time they want the other thing and they get mad at you for not doing what they want. I personally don’t care which method is used … I just want it to be clear!

 

[Debbie Jean]

Sorry, but you’re wrong about where scooters wait at park closing. I used to think that too, until i got “corrected” by a driver at the MK a few years ago. He told me that I should have gone through the regular line and wanted to know how big the line was when I got into the waiting area. I told him the truth but honestly can’t remember if I had to wait for another bus or not, but I do remember being embarrassed that I was singled out. Since then, I’ve paid more attention and CMs will often ask ECVs and wheelchairs to enter the regular switchback queue and pop out at the swinging gate right before boarding.

It can actually be quite confusing because you never quite know how the CMs in charge want you to queue up. We’re DVC too and usually do 10-day trips and visit each park multiple times. Sometimes they want you to go directly to the waiting area and sometimes they want you to wait in the switchback queue with everyone else. One MK closing night the CMs want one thing and the next time they want the other thing and they get mad at you for not doing what they want. I personally don’t care which method is used … I just want it to be clear!

I have never in 25 years been told to join a regular standby queue at closing when staying at a deluxe resort. YMMV

For what it’s worth, I don’t think Disney has fixed policies… I think there are guidelines. How these are implemented is at the discretion of the driver. Basic procedures conform to established guidelines but can be altered depending on the drivers assessment of the situation. Is their “policy” which is always to be implemented? I don’t think so. That’s my observation over the years.

 

[robinb]

I have never in 25 years been told to join a regular standby queue at closing when staying at a deluxe resort. YMMV

You’re lucky! I do believe it might be more prevalent in the Value resort bus stops just because of the sheer number of folks trying to get home at once. But, as DVC members (BWV and AKV) we stay at Deluxes and I have been asked to join the regular queue too.

There have also been other threads where folks have commented on how confusing the difference in ECV queuing is depending on the day and time. It’s really hard to know exactly what the right thing to do once you know they can change things and you might get “corrected”.

I do want to point out that when a “wheels” user is asked to enter the regular switchback queue and enter the waiting area at the gate, they find themselves in my extract same situation. They now need to load the bus with people already on board.

 

[Donna3271]

Are you asking because you’re curious how disabled people who can’t walk ride Space Mountain? They can transfer to a wheelchair, go through the LL line, and then they must transfer down into the rocket ship.

Or, are you asking as a type of a “gotcha” question? If so, what’s your point?

Good info. My DS has 3 disabled children, and this is great to know. She keeps hesitating taking them to Disney.

 

[robinb]

Good info. My DS has 3 disabled children, and this is great to know. She keeps hesitating taking them to Disney.

Many of the older rides, especially in the MK, are more difficult for folks with disabilities. Space Mountain is one of them. If you start your own thread, I bet you’d get a lot of great advice and feedback on your sister’s kids’ needs. I’d hate for it to get buried in this thread.

 

[Donna3271]

Many of the older rides, especially in the MK, are more difficult for folks with disabilities. Space Mountain is one of them. If you start your own thread, I bet you’d get a lot of great advice and feedback on your sister’s kids’ needs. I’d hate for it to get buried in this thread.

TY for this. It is just daunting for her to think of going. Getting on Space Mountain was AMAZING! I wouldn't have imagined it. That is why I asked you.

 

[NEVERENOUGHWDW]

We drive a scooter when we visit Walt Disney World.

We had a bad experience with a bus driver that drives the bus between Fort wilderness and Magic Kingdom last night.

We got on his bus to go to the Magic Kingdom and we are the only ones on it. He wanted to park my scooter for me, but I’ve gotten pretty good at it so I said I could do it myself. He scolded me, “people are waiting!” Even though we were the only two people on the bus. Of course I got flustered and messed it up and it took me longer to park then if he had just left me alone.

When we came home to Fort Wilderness after the Deluxe Extra Hours at the MK (we’re in a DVC cabin) we arrived at the bus stop at about 11:30 and the bus was already loading. The same driver loaded the rest of the people and then came out to speak to us. He asked us if we could wait for him to drop off all the people on the bus to Fort wilderness and come back and get us which would have been a 30 to 40 minute wait. There were people seated where the scooter would go he apparently didn’t want to move them, even though there were other seats on the bus. We said “no” and he grumbled and moved them for us. FWIW, there is only one single bus that was servicing the route.

I could accept his jerky move on the way to the MK, but asking us to wait 30-40 minutes for him to come back to retrieve us because he didn’t want to move people is too much IMO. Keep in mind, we also had to take another internal bus at FW to our cabin and they stop running at some point and it was already 11:30 at night.

So, am I the sphincter for expecting him to move people to another available seat in order to park the scooter or is he the sphincter for asking us to wait 40 more minutes and possibly miss the last internal bus back to our cabin?

If I’m not the sphincter, should I report him?

You need to share this world with others. Not all handicaps require a scooter & not all scooters carry people with handicaps.

 

[theMoreDisneytheBetter]

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