Should all illegal drugs.....

[FLAsomeday]

that's a snappy little comeback, but would you elaborate? You think abortion should be legal at 8 months? I guess I'm pro-life once the baby is about full term.

No, you feel that it is inappropriate to use drugs while pregnant, but not to kill the baby while pregnant. I find it to be quite a discrepancy, that's all.

 

[Pete's Mom]

lol...You've obviously never seen someone "stoned" get behind the wheel of a car...About the worst you would get is a minor ding in your bumper

Dude, where's my car?

 

[auntpolly]

No, you feel that it is inappropriate to use drugs while pregnant, but not to kill the baby while pregnant. I find it to be quite a discrepancy, that's all.

What you wrote doesn't even make sense. I respect the laws already in place. At the point that the law considers a fetus a viable baby and abortion is illegal, that would be the point that killing it -- any way you look at it -- abortion or through something harmful you've done to yourself -- would be wrong.

I can't even tell what you are arguing for - honestly - what side are you on? Can you be more clear?

 

[FLAsomeday]

What you wrote doesn't even make since. I respect the laws already in place. At the point that the law considers a fetus a viable baby and abortion is illegal, that would be the point that killing it -- any way you look at it -- abortion or through something harmful you've done to yourself -- would be wrong.

I can't even tell what you are arguing for - honestly - what side are you on? Can you be more clear?

It makes perfect sense.

You feel that it is wrong to use drugs while pregnant because it harms someone other than you:

Quote:
Originally Posted by Charade
AuntPolly, if it's your body.... what about pregnant women?

If you harm any other person while smoking, drinking, or taking drugs, that's another matter entirely.

But, you feel that abortion in fine (until the 8th month )

To me, those are two incompatable notions, unless one is an equivocator & will justify any belief simply because that's how one wants it to be.

I am, clearly, of the belief that abortion is wrong and using drugs during pregnancy is wrong.

It has nothing to do with laws, it has to do with right and wrong and belief systems.

 

[ford family]

It's also dangerous, though. Over prescription of antibiotics could well lead to an outbreak of the flu or some other virus that is resistant to antibiotics. I'd rather see them legalize crack than legalize antibiotics without a prescription.

So, in that strange twilight world you inhabit, and wish to force on others, people are sufficiently responsible to limit their intake of crack cocaine but have to have their usage of antibiotics regulated?

ford family

 

[chobie]

It makes perfect sense.

You feel that it is wrong to use drugs while pregnant because it harms someone other than you:



But, you feel that abortion in fine (until the 8th month )

To me, those are two incompatable notions, unless one is an equivocator & will justify any belief simply because that's how one wants it to be.

I am, clearly, of the belief that abortion is wrong and using drugs during pregnancy is wrong.

It has nothing to do with laws, it has to do with right and wrong and belief systems.

I started you a thread for this topic. Have fun!

 

[FLAsomeday]

So, in that strange twilight world you inhabit, and wish to force on others, people are sufficiently responsible to limit their intake of crack cocaine but have to have their usage of antibiotics regulated?

ford family

 

[auntpolly]

It makes perfect sense.

You feel that it is wrong to use drugs while pregnant because it harms someone other than you:



But, you feel that abortion in fine (until the 8th month )

To me, those are two incompatable notions, unless one is an equivocator & will justify any belief simply because that's how one wants it to be.

I am, clearly, of the belief that abortion is wrong and using drugs during pregnancy is wrong.

It has nothing to do with laws, it has to do with right and wrong and belief systems.

Oh, I see. You are one of those people who misquote people - cut and paste only what you want them to see - to win arguements. No thanks.

I will clarify what I have said, and then just stop, please. I used 8 months only as an example. I said that I respect the law as it is in place today on the subject of at when an abortion is appropriate.

I won't have discussions with people who take what other people say out of context to win debates - it's not right.

 

[Pete's Mom]

I really don't understand your reasoning. People who don't do drugs because drugs are worthless are not going to suddenly start. So why would they suddenly be behind the wheel of a car?

Make it legal and you are going to have a lot more people trying it out just for the hell of it. I think some people are deterred from doing drugs because it is illegal and they have a lot to lose if caught doing them. Case in point, two of my friends are government workers and they have told me on several occasions that if they weren't faced with the fear of being busted through random drug testing, they would "be getting high in a heartbeat".

Of course there are people who drive high or stoned now, all I am saying is that by making drugs legal, you are probably adding to the number of people who should not be behind the wheel.

 

[wvrevy]

As usual, you revert to personal attacks...then, you'll deny doing so.

As for Byrd, he is used as a poster child for the left when it is convienient for the left to do so.

You are one of the least open-minded people on these boards. you prove it on a daily basis. Anyone you disagree with, you condemn as stupid and evil. Your act has grown tiresome.

It's not an act, I truly think some people ARE stupid and evil. If you think REALLY hard, I'll even bet you can figure out who I'm talking about.

 

[FLAsomeday]

Oh, I see. You are one of those people who misquote people - cut and paste only what you want them to see - to win arguements. No thanks.

I will clarify what I have said, and then just stop, please. I used 8 months only as an example. I said that I respect the law as it is in place today on the subject of at when an abortion is appropriate.

I won't have discussions with people who take what other people say out of context to win debates - it's not right.

Where did I misquote or take anything you said out of context? I used your exact quote.

All I left out was:

Just because drinking is legal doesn't mean it should be legal to get in your car drunk and run over pedestrians.

How does that change any context whatsoever?

As I stated earlier, it is not about law, it is about belief systems.

So, you should probably admit that I did not take you out of context.

 

[FLAsomeday]

Make it legal and you are going to have a lot more people trying it out just for the hell of it. I think some people are deterred from doing drugs because it is illegal and they have a lot to lose if caught doing them. Case in point, two of my friends are government workers and they have told me on several occasions that if they weren't faced with the fear of being busted through random drug testing, they would "be getting high in a heartbeat".

Of course there are people who drive high or stoned now, all I am saying is that by making drugs legal, you are probably adding to the number of people who should not be behind the wheel.

Prohibition was a big success, huh? This silly war on drugs is a failure.

 

[FLAsomeday]

oops, my appologies to Chobie.

 

[auntpolly]

But, you feel that abortion in fine (until the 8th month )

Sigh, you wrote this of me. Remember? I did not say <i>until</i> the 8th month - I merely gave an example.

I really hate that I have to keep arguing you, because you are in fact my least favorite kind of person to debate - the kind that twists people's posts to win - I'm not answering you anymore.

Everyone gets it - you're against abortion and I'm pro-choice. Get over it and stop fighting dirty.

 

[wvrevy]

So, in that strange twilight world you inhabit, and wish to force on others, people are sufficiently responsible to limit their intake of crack cocaine but have to have their usage of antibiotics regulated?

ford family

Gee, what a friendly response, considering I've never even seen you on these boards before...lol...Nice to meet you too

As to your smarmy little question, you'll notice that not ONCE in this thread have I stated that ALL "recreational" drugs should be legalized. I'm not sold on the idea of allowing cocaine (which BADLY impairs your judgement, as well as being addictive) to be sold to the public, simply because it IS so highly addictive. It's not a moralistic nonsense reason, but a practical one: one you start, you may become a burden on society if you can't get stopped. All I've argued for is the legalization of marijuana.

That said, the reason antibiotics absolutely SHOULD be regulated is because that mutant strain of flu (or whatever) that can't be killed by antibiotics will target me and everyone else, regardless of whether we've ever misused antibiotics personally. If you ruin your life with hard drugs, that really isn't my business ('till you go on the public payrolls, which I already mentioned). If you help in creating a virus that could wipe out millions of people....well, that's a bit of a different story, wouldn't you say ?

Feel free to chime in again with such a friendly tone....lol....Nice talkin' to ya'....

 

[chobie]

AuntPolly, if it's your body.... what about pregnant women?

That was Charade. I was quoting him. Try again.

 

[auntpolly]

That was Charade. I was quoting him. Try again.

I'm getting confused - who are you talking to?

 

[mrsltg]

CLARIFICATION - The flu can't be killed with antibiotics -they fight bacteria - the flu is a virus.

Carry on...

Erin

 

[wvrevy]

Everyone gets it - you're against abortion and I'm pro-choice. Get over it and stop fighting dirty.

He can't help himself, AuntPolly....It's the only way he knows how to debate...attackattackattack, then whine when someone calls you on it that you're being "personally attacked". He used to do it under his other name, and he's doing it all the time under this one (I guess the other was banned for the same kind of crap).

 

[wvrevy]

CLARIFICATION - The flu can't be killed with antibiotics -they fight bacteria - the flu is a virus.

Carry on...

Erin

Sorry You get the point....See the website below for details:

http://www.keepantibioticsworking.com/new/index.cfm