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Kick Save said:
I posted earlier as a planner, and must say the non-planners seem to equate having a plan to removing all spontanaity...the two are not mutually exclusive. It's not an either/or type thing. We have a good plan and still do a LOT of things unplanned.

To each their own...but keep not planning, makes my mornings easier. :teeth:



That is not what I said, but thanks.
What I was saying is that we don't want to plan months or even weeks in advance what we want to do on each specific day. We would like to decide the night before or morning of - BUT it's not like we are going in blind. I KNOW what's going on - I do have a brain afterall. I've been to disney quite a few times, I've done tons and tons of research and planning. We would like to just be able to plan our day at each park the night before or morning of before we head there, etc. Get it?
 
all we plan is when we are going, and wing the rest. We have been a LOT, however, so if we miss something on a trip, we can just hit it the next time.

(I don't reccomend that strategy to first timers / people who must do EVERYTHING...)
 
I can't imagine going to WDW without some sort of plan. We don't make a detailed plan (ie. touring plan) But we do decide which restaurants we will eat in and which parks to avoid on which days. When we have a long stay we do plan to alternate a day in a park with a down day - at a water park or the pool or visiting my old friend in Orlando. When it's a quick trip we put the water park in the middle. But in general our plans are nothing more than ADRs and which park which day.

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finnster77 said:
Planning and looking forward to it is at least half the fun for me. :woohoo:

Same here.

I think I've got a pretty balanced way of doing it, though. I approach it like I do anything that requires planning in life : plan, plan, plan, alternate plans, base plans, etc...and then when you're actually following-through, use the plan as a guideline and adjust as you see fit. If you don't feel like doing something at the time you thought you would, don't - and have other things to do.

I know it's not for some people, and that's great - everyone should do what they want on their vacation, of course. But I disagree with the mentality that making a few ADR's or having a rough idea of what parks what day takes away "spontineity". It just enhances it for me, as I'm relaxed knowing I have a basic idea of what I'd like to accomplish in a day in the parks so I can be more open to other ideas that come up on the spur of the moment.

I think a lot of people just don't like what planning represents, and it just depends on what it means to you. Planning a trip like this is just plain fun to begin with for me, and if I have a rough plan I know I'm not going to miss out on anything I really have a priority to do. Now, if this was a week on the beach in the Bahamas and you were planning, "8:30, make sandcastle, 9:45 Play in waves, 10:15 watch old man pee underwater..." then I'd agree it's taking away...but when you are talking about an experience as massive as WDW, a little bit of planning (or a lot, depending on how much you enjoy it) can really make the difference between "fun" and "magical".

NED
 

I am really in between on this one. We will be there for 7 days in Sept and I have definite plans for only 3 of the days. I really like to let my kids decide the night before where they feel like going. I do take EMH into consideration and tell them which parks might be crowded that day.

We also always schedule a fun, yet relaxing, Day 1- No park tickets.

This year we are fishing, swimming at the hotel pool, then miniature golfing on Day 1.

A few years ago, we golfed, swam at Stormalong Bay then headed to CG for a late dinner and MK fireworks from the observation deck on Day 1.
 
...a bit off-topic, but how strange is THIS?? A [former]neighbor of my DSis visits WDW, ALWAYS stays on-property, but NEVER visits any WDW parks.... :confused3
 
kimmar067 said:
...a bit off-topic, but how strange is THIS?? A [former]neighbor of my DSis visits WDW, ALWAYS stays on-property, but NEVER visits any WDW parks.... :confused3

Ok, now THAT is strange! :crazy2:
 
kimmar067 said:
...a bit off-topic, but how strange is THIS?? A [former]neighbor of my DSis visits WDW, ALWAYS stays on-property, but NEVER visits any WDW parks.... :confused3
I met a DVC member and they come down twice a year and only go to the park maybe once just the MK if they go. They said they just like the pools resort villas and how nice they are treated.
 
First, we don't really plan that much. We have an idea what we might try to do different from last time, but that is the extent of it. This last time we upgraded to PAP's to take in the water parks and DQ. We wound up spending most of our time at BB. I also knew that I wanted to take DS on a water mice again and we kinda winged that too. Now no planning is bad, particullary if you don't know the lay of the land, but being too regimented sometimes takes the fun out of having fun.

As far as this OT subject, I have a coworker that rents a cabin at FW and will hang out there all week and never go to any of the parks except maybe TL. They will rent a golf cart and cruise around the campgrounds or maybe go a visit a resort. To them, the parks got old over the years, but getting away and enjoying the resorts is very enjoyable.
 
We don't really plan out the trip. We talk about a few things that we know we want to do. We always do Epcot on our arrival day and then on the other days we do whichever park we feel like and while at the parks we just do whatever we feel like doing that day. It's our vacation so we want to relax and just do or not do something based on what we are in the mood for. We've been so many times that if we don't do something this trip, then we'll do it the next time. This year is the first year that I have made ADR's though. During the last couple of trips, it's been harder to get into the restaurants without ADR's so we figured out a couple that we knew we really wanted to eat at and made ADR's for those.

If this were my 1st trip to Disney World or I only got to visit every few years, then I would probably do things differently and have more of a plan. But, we go to DW 2 or 3 weekends each year and then once a year for a whole week so if we don't do everything, it's not a big deal.

I think the important thing regardless of whether you plan or not is to have fun!
 
Well, since I seem to travel with a large group at all times- I have 3 kids, plus my parents seem to hit every trip with us (which we enjoy, so it's OK) We start at 7. Then, once word gets out we are going others seem to want to tag along, again OK because we are from a HUGE family and love to be with them. But could I get this group together without a plan? That would be a nightmare! I book ADR's for at least one meal a day and give everyone a card with where to be when. At that point it's up to everyone what they want to do. I don't really see why ADR's would be at all prohibative for what park you visit each day? If I have dinner plans at Le Cellier for 6:00 why can't I decide when I get up that I want to go to AK? Or Lunch ADR's at PTC why wouldn't I be able to decide to sleep in? I guess for me the thought of not having that TS meal all booked, and having that nice relaxing respite from the park, and most importantly giving my kids a decent meal and a good rest, would bother me more. But that's just me! My aunt went a few years ago with her daughter and boyfriend, and his son. They had no ADR's, no plan in place at all. Every morning was a big fight about where to go that day, they didn't have a place to take a break at all, it was just go, go , go and had a miserable time (boyfriend was given his walking papers not too long after they got back btw) They are coming with me in October, and I am so glad to be able to show them what a "magical" place WDW can be with a little planning. :wizard:
 
Scraper said:
I met a DVC member and they come down twice a year and only go to the park maybe once just the MK if they go. They said they just like the pools resort villas and how nice they are treated.

...I can certainly appreciate and understand that, but they have two children - ages 6 and 11 - wouldn't you think that they would go to the parks for THEM????
 
amyminzey said:
That is not what I said, but thanks.
What I was saying is that we don't want to plan months or even weeks in advance what we want to do on each specific day. We would like to decide the night before or morning of - BUT it's not like we are going in blind. I KNOW what's going on - I do have a brain afterall. I've been to disney quite a few times, I've done tons and tons of research and planning. We would like to just be able to plan our day at each park the night before or morning of before we head there, etc. Get it?
Save the "Get it," the CAPS, and other things...I wasn't responding directly to you, hence "non-planners" in my post. I was the furthest from trying to be confrontational, it was just a general vibe that I was getting. There are a lot of, "We don't plan, we don't want to be tied to it, we want to be SPONTANEOUS!!" type posts in here.

My point was that having a plan doesn't mean you miss out on the little things, or even change your plan, because your commando gear won't allow it. I have a plan in place now, and I gurantee we deviate from it. There's also a lot of time built into the plan that's unplanned.

There are thousands of ways to get around WDW for everybody out there. Some things work better for others. If you've been there a lot, then getting around by the seat of your pants is second nature based on experience. I like to plan it out, it works well. (And we NEVER stick to it... :lmao: ) I'm not trying to sway anybody, just offering my opinion.

Planning and spontenaity at WDW are not mutually exclusive, that's all I'm trying to say.
 
CleveRocks said:
My wife and I took our then-5 year old and 2.5 year old in May 2005. We were born-again first-timers, as we were last in WDW in 1990. I definitely did NOT want to have to conform to any kind of plan or schedule. Our lives are like that 7 days a week, and I wanted freedom from that. We both work full-time in professional, stressful jobs with lots of responsibility, plus there's also that little parents-of-two-preschoolers-thing.

I just used my brain.

And here's something to make many of your heads spin and have purple heffalumps fly out your ears -- we let our 5 year old son decide which park we went to each day.

In the months leading up to our trip, I had a great time learning everything I possibly could about WDW. Thank goodness for DISboards. I also went to MANY other websites and some other message boards. I studied the Unofficial Guide and Birnbaum's like they were the Bible itself. I gathered every piece of knowledge that was gatherable (is that a word??!!), plus got a lot of opinions along the way, from the DIS and the other places. I got all the info I could possibly get except what I could get from actual experience.

My 5-year-old ALSO had an encyclopedic knowledge of everything a 5-year-old wants to do. He watched that WDW planning DVD every night for about 6 weeks leading up to our trip. He could tell me from memory what attractions and rides he wanted to do in each park. Star Tours excited him more than anything, so on our first day in Florida we got to MGM by about 5:30 p.m. based ONLY on his stated preference at lunch that day. Later that night when we asked him, he said he NEEDED to go to MK the next day to ride Goofy's Barnstormer and do Mickey's Toontown Fair. With that info in mind, I prepped him for what we'd be able to do that first time in MK and what we would have to wait for another day during the week (as we weren't into being absolute commandos).

I had some generalizations in my head, such as avoiding a park on EMH day (if not using EMH), not waiting in a long line for Spaceship Earth at the beginning of the day, the ins and outs of FASTPASS, and other ideas and thoughts obvious to we who are well-versed in WDW knowledge.

Basically, I learned the information BEHIND what goes into making a kick-a$$ touring plan, and I knew how to use it. I was able to make decisions on-the-fly, and it worked perfectly. We did and saw EVERYTHING we wanted to, in a very efficient and FUN manner, because when I was presented with any situation I knew how to assess all the available data and devise a really good plan for what to do over the next few hours.

We had a dinner ADR (then called PS) for each day, but that was a "just in case" thing -- we're more the counter-service type on vacation, anyway. I canceled each ADR as soon as I realized we wouldn't be in the "right place" that evening. We did do Hoop Dee Doo Revue, and since I'd already paid so much money for it I was pretty motivated to make that appointment. We also kept one ADR for a character dinner (we really only wanted to do one, anyway). And you know what, my wife and I felt kinda stressed having to time it just right to get to that ADR. Even with a good touring plan, there are uncontrollable variables such as transportation delays, long lines at rides, not wanting to wait around too long ahead of time, etc.

To me, it was fun, it was like being a detective, or an artist. It was a really fun challenge, I enjoy mental puzzles. And this was one with a good cause -- my kids' smiles.

We'll be doing it exactly the same this November. And by exactly the same, I mean no prior planning of touring plans.

I think you're more of a planner than the vast majority of people at WDW!! That's not an insult, I admire your attitude. I'm not sure if the OP was referring to touring plans or general planning, but despite the fact that you didn't have specific touring plans or advance decisions made on which parks to go to, you still did 1000% more planning than most people, I bet. It depends on how we define "planning". To me, planning is knowing a lot about the attractions before you get there, possibly seeing maps, getting tips about Fastpass etc. Non-planning is never even knowing the names of the attractions or which park has which things or thinking Fastpass is an extra that costs money! I know 2 families from here where I live who went to WDW and never used Fastpass and never read as much as one book, article or glanced at one photo in advance so the first they heard of Splash Mountain or Star Tours was when they passed it in the park when they got there and then stood in line for upwards of 90 minutes! And that's their choice, there's no right and wrong.

I do have a plan for which park to go to on which day *but* there is no problem whatsoever if we change that! The plan provides a kind of grounding for the holiday so we're not always wandering aimlessly. It depends on people's personalities and the make up of the group going. We have a toddler and a 12 and 10 year old so I'll always try to be aware to do things to suit everyone. We'll no doubt stray from the plan but I'm glad we have some advance knowledge all the same.

Anyway, all I wanted to say is that you definitely, imo, fit into the 'planner' category.
 
DebIreland said:
I think you're more of a planner than the vast majority of people at WDW!! That's not an insult, I admire your attitude.

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Anyway, all I wanted to say is that you definitely, imo, fit into the 'planner' category.
Thanks. As long as this remains our little secret, okay?
 
Groovee said:
Does anyone NOT plan their trip to WDW. Do you just get up and decide which park to do that day or the night before decide?

Oh, I plan, plan, plan! I LOVE the planning! My December 2006 trip has lasted since January so far, when I first booked the trip! It is part of the fun.

My son, on the other hand, took his son and nephew this week, and he doesn't plan...hasn't on any trip so far (his third). This time it was just him and the boys so he let each boy (ages 8 and 11) have their own "days" that they decide where to go, where to eat, what to ride.

So I guess it just depends on your personality type...I am sort of obsessive and I want it all planned out before I go (not that I won't change plans; I have been known to change dining reservations on the day of the reservation because we decided to spend longer at one park or other) but generally, I like the planning stuff!

Sara
 


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