Set your VCR's!!! Dateline Tuesday: McCaughey septuplets turn five

Originally posted by Girls Scout Leader
ok, I'm ready to duck too..

I could not, no way, not on your life, accept donation like they have. I am a pull-you-self-up-by-your-own-bootstraps kinda person. My DH has worked hard by continuing education, making a respectable name for himself in his field, making sacrifices, and is rewarded by a good wage. I, too, have jsut finished traing for a new field, while raising my children full time. You must remember..you make your bed, you have to lie in it. We work hard for our family, and could NEVER just accept the merchandise, etc that they have. What will it teach those children in the long run? That someone out there will bail you out if the going gets tough? :rolleyes:

Thank you!!!!
 
Originally posted by Buckalew
I remember this part of the interview. however, I understood her to say that the pain FROM the shot doesn't last forever and it does make his legs feel better.

Oh. I guess I missed that nuance, but now that I think about it you're probably correct.

No flames or throwing things. Some people thought they should have done the selective procedure & some do not. I think all 7 of the will contribute to society but that is JMHO.

And you're right on that front too, even though my original opinion about selective reduction has not changed.

Originally posted by DocRafiki
They do seem to be handling it well, though.

Yes they are :). It made me feel a lot better about their decision.
 
Does anyone else see a little green monster peeking through this thread?

I think the reason Bobbi McCaughey gets donations when other big families do not is two-fold:
(1) Most dominantly, the novelty of a septuplet birth, and
(2) Less dominantly, the sense that she really could not have expected to have that many kids when she took the drugs. Larger families decide with each and every kid whether to have one more. They can look at their financial situation through time. Bobbi McCaughey has made lemonade out of lemons. Can anyone really blame her for the religious beliefs that prevented a selective abortion? I'm pro-choice personally, but I understand where others are not.

In short, people feel that if you have so many kids that you cannot balance your household budget, you are to blame for what you have done to your family. It is so easy to prevent pregnancy now that if you can't afford one more, don't have one more, or bear the consequences of your decision.

On the other hand, people do not feel that Bobbi McCaughey made a decision like that. She went on the drugs to have another baby, or maybe two, or most distantly three. Who could have predicted 7? Because life threw her something unexpected, something we have not seen before or since in the US, she gets the benefit of the doubt and donations.

Besides, would you pick up LHJ to read about some boring plain vanilla "big family?" Did you read for the septuplets? They have a marketing value well beyond that of most families.

Quints are not a big story anymore. There's nothing novel about them, we've seen it before. That's why the quints do not get as many donations.

I'd take every donation I could get, if I were her. She doesn't owe anything to other families of multiples, she's barely scraping by even with these donations (let's face it, no one would mistake Mr. McCaughey for Mr. Ambition) and no one gets a medal in heaven for turning down donations that are freely and generously given and don't hurt anybody else. If we were giving free clothes to babies in Cambodia or some other totally impoverished place, we wouldn't be hearing about "I am absorbing the cost of these donations as a consumer." That argument really doesn't have much merit. If you're vehemently concerned about absorbing costs of others as a consumer, I fully expect you to be wearing a walkie-talkie at the entrance to Sears tomorrow to stop the shoplifters. That's where consumers really get nailed on the cost of "donations." The McCaughey family donations couldn't even be computed to some fractional penny of yours in terms of effect.

So her kids got a scholarship to one local college at birth? So what. What if her kids want to go somewhere else? And need I remind anyone that if your kids get the job done in high school, they'll get a free ride to college too. Even white kids from the suburbs get the $ with a certain SAT or activity.

Time to put the little green monster to bed on this thread.
 
So her kids got a scholarship to one local college at birth? So what. What if her kids want to go somewhere else? And need I remind anyone that if your kids get the job done in high school, they'll get a free ride to college too. Even white kids from the suburbs get the $ with a certain SAT or activity.
There's a big difference in a kid's mentality if he knows he has to work for it vs. it being given to him with no strings attached. I can't say that I would have studied a bit in high school if I knew from the beginning that college was free. I knew from the get-go that I had to get a scholarship, or I was going to have to pay for it myself. There was never a question that grades were a priority. I think they're fostering an entitlement mentality on this particular issue, but I'm sure I'm in the minority there since so many parents pay for their kids' college regardless of their high school performance. To a kid, I don't think it matters if the money comes from their parents or a donation.

I would definitely have taken all the donations, too. I probably would have taken the $million too, though I'm not sure exactly what info they wanted for that kind of money. As long as it wasn't humiliating and didn't put the family in danger, it would have been a good investment.
 

Originally posted by DocRafiki
I would definitely have taken all the donations, too. I probably would have taken the $million too, though I'm not sure exactly what info they wanted for that kind of money. As long as it wasn't humiliating and didn't put the family in danger, it would have been a good investment.

I would also have taken all the money, donations and baby-sitter help anyone would offer :).

I believe the tabloids wanted to pay for pictures of the babies in the hospital. I am certain that Dateline has paid handsomely for the exclusive (or at least first) rights to the annual updates.
 
I probably would have taken the $million too,

WHAT million? Who offered them that? Pictures of the babies in the hospital would not have been worth that much to the tabloids.
 
I didnt watch them. I didnt care to.

It annoys me that people get rewarded for breeding.

They made the choice to have 7 babies. If they couldnt support 7 kids, then they shouldnt of had them, and they shouldnt of expected handouts.

They already had 1 child before the septupulets. They could of stopped there. Would that have been so terrible?

I think people who have donated things to them are either morons who wanted to jump on the bandwagon, or were just interested in promoting their products.
 
Very well said, Dana! I, too, see that ugly green monster here. I agree that she was not expecting to be pregnant with 7 babies when she took the fertility drugs, she had taken them to get pregnant the first time and she only got pregnant with the oldest daughter, so how would she know or even anticipate 7 babies. And, I for one, could not judge her and her husband for keeping all seven babies and not doing the selective abortion. Unless you are personally in that situation, how can you judge someone else's decision? I couldn't stand here and say that I would abort some or not, I will never be in that situation so how do I really know what I'd do or how I'd feel?

As for the 2 kids with CP, well, my niece has CP, albeit a mild form, but she is now 31 and a H.S. teacher, and happily married. She is now trying to get pregnant and start a family. Don't write those 2 kids off. I'm sure Bobbi and Kenny are sure glad that they are alive and part of their family. I wish them only the best.
 
It annoys me that people get rewarded for breeding.
Breeding in itself is a reward. There's nothing like having a child to love.
They made the choice to have 7 babies. If they couldnt support 7 kids, then they shouldnt of had them, and they shouldnt of expected handouts.
They weren't expecting 7 kids. They've said all along they didn't expect handouts either.

Dana, wonderful post! :)
 
I was very happy that they are able to live and feed their large family.
I was sooooooo impressed that they feed their family on $300 per month. MONTH?? I spend that for 2 adults. It sure made me feel a little self indulgent. :(


ps.....they said on the show that the tabloids offered 1 million for birth pictures and they felt it was too exploitive of the children.
 
Originally posted by Disney-Kim

ps.....they said on the show that the tabloids offered 1 million for birth pictures and they felt it was too exploitive of the children.[/COLOR]


Hmmmmm, that's interesting, because I was still working at the National Enquirer in the photo dept. at the time they were born and they didn't go around offering millions of dollars for pictures. They MIGHT have thought about going in with The Star, because that was the other tabloid owned by American Media. I don't think the two tabloids together would have paid 1 millions dollars for her pictures. They didn't pay $1 million for Madonna's kids, I doubt they would pay it for hers. I actually remember working on her story, because I had to help put some programs on one of the macs that had the highest connection speed so they could watch her birth.
$1 million, the only pictures I know of that were worth that much were of Princess Diana still in the car after her accident, but no one bought those.
 
Wow ChiTownZee.... that is a very interesting perspective.


I never knew anyone who worked in the tabloid business.


Dana did say something interesting.. Mr. McCaughey is NOT Mr. Ambition.... that is what I have been trying to say.

Now was he ambitious before the kids, or is he taking a small "free ride"... hey, I can relax, work in a low paying job, since I got all these freebies, or is that honestly the only job he can get?


I spend less about $200 or less per month for groceries, usually less than $50 a week so that didn't really impress me... remember the kids are small, thier food bills will get huge as the kids grow.
 
cindy, I'm getting the impression that your jealous of her frugal shopping abilities more than anything else. :D
 
Originally posted by Cindy B
Dana did say something interesting.. Mr. McCaughey is NOT Mr. Ambition.... that is what I have been trying to say.

LOL! I got the impression that he was just darn happy to get out of the house and away from the kids!
 
Originally posted by Cindy B

Dana did say something interesting.. Mr. McCaughey is NOT Mr. Ambition.... that is what I have been trying to say.

I think he's never been all that ambitious. This is not a personality attribute that changes wildly through life.

Cindy, I don't think anyone is trying to take away from your frugal shopping abilities. But surely you feel that there must be others in America with skills as good or better than your own. (heck, I feel that way about every single thing I do!) So I don't think there's any need to defend your own success in the context of Bobbi McCaughey.
 
Well, I enjoy hearing about them... they were born the same year as my 3rd child and I like to keep up with them.

I think selective reduction is murder, plain and simple... it has always bugged me when people "go to all lengths" to conceive and then say-- whoa, that's too many, kill some off!
So I applaud her for trying to do what she felt was right and moral in her situation.
I also don't think anything is wrong with the donations she received-- good for her-- everyone can use a little help now and them!

I guess everyone is entitiled to their own opinions.... and so am I.


posted by goofygirl:
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Breeding in itself is a reward. There's nothing like having a child to love.
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I dont agree.
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you've made that quite clear.
Kathi
 
If anything, Its not jealousy... its well, good to see frugality seen in such a positivel light.. I have been living this way for over 12 years.. and to me its great when I hear "They can do that?", well, yes, its possible and actually quite easy, once you get the hang of it...


If I do 150-200 per month, than her 300 is about on par of what I would do if I had more kids...
 
Slightly OT and I haven't read all of the other replies.

I think it's okay for them to have all these babies, no problem. But I do find it laughable when they give God the credit. Uh hello??? Wasn't it the fertility drugs that put those 7 kids in there at once?? God may have given her the ability to have one, but modern science was responsible for the next 7.
 














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