Sept. 2009 @ WDW! Be a Pop Tart 2009~come share your(Bounce Back or NOT)Dates !!!

[SlightlyGoofy]

Ang and M&N, lately I have been inundated with folks who have differing ideas on just how old the Earth is. There are those who think it millions of years old (scientists) and those who think it can only be a few thousand years old (religious) but they are the extremes of either POV. Most of us (scientists and religious) reside somewhere in the middle and a few of us are smart enough to know that we do not know, for sure. I met a young lady at DW while waiting for a ressie at O'Hana's. She was home schooled and she told me that she liked it because she did not want to learn the wrong stuff. She informed me that the Earth could only be 2,000 years old because of Jesus. I might have argued against that theory but for my idea that parents have the right to teach their kids what they want to. Later on the same teenage girl believed me when I told her that when she put the glowing ice cube in her mouth the light radiated out her ears. It is not what we do not know that is worrisome but the things we think we know that are wrong.

Diva K, while it is true that the laundry will wait if you wait too long it might sprout legs, or at least mold. Hope breakfast was good. I know the company was.

Waiting for grandson to show up. Today we are sorting stuff out. Should be fun. I sit at the top of the steps and aruge with him on where things go. He is good at the big stuff, not so good at details though. Wish his demented little brother with the OCD would come over too.

SG

 

[angwill]

Just had to vent this morning: DS one teacher is driving me crazy. She really needs to find a new line of work but she won't since she is too narcisistic to do that. DS was sooo bored in her class since she spends her day reading the SS book to the class and explaining what she read. Then she assignes half a dozen long writing assignments per quarter and refuses to help him with his writting challenges because she claims to have her hands full with the other 10 students in her class and doesn't have any other time to help him understand the work. Another of DS teachers actually stepped up and offered to help him with the writing from the other teachers class on her own time after school. When I went to the principal and superintendant about her she lied through her teeth and claimed not to have said what I had printed out on emails from her. She flat out refused to help DS and said so in front of the principal and others claiming it was not her responsibility. What is with principals and administrators who are too afraid to step up and tell a teacher to do their job already? She doesn't even have tenure yet.

One good thing is that I told the school I refuse to deal with her any longer and half a year is way too much already and they are putting him in with a teacher who both DS and I like.

Thanks for letting me vent. I was sitting here after her last email this morning thinking my head would explode any second now. lol

Angela

 

[Poohbear67]

Just had to vent this morning: DS one teacher is driving me crazy. She really needs to find a new line of work but she won't since she is too narcisistic to do that. DS was sooo bored in her class since she spends her day reading the SS book to the class and explaining what she read. Then she assignes half a dozen long writing assignments per quarter and refuses to help him with his writting challenges because she claims to have her hands full with the other 10 students in her class and doesn't have any other time to help him understand the work. Another of DS teachers actually stepped up and offered to help him with the writing from the other teachers class on her own time after school. When I went to the principal and superintendant about her she lied through her teeth and claimed not to have said what I had printed out on emails from her. She flat out refused to help DS and said so in front of the principal and others claiming it was not her responsibility. What is with principals and administrators who are too afraid to step up and tell a teacher to do their job already? She doesn't even have tenure yet.

One good thing is that I told the school I refuse to deal with her any longer and half a year is way too much already and they are putting him in with a teacher who both DS and I like.

Thanks for letting me vent. I was sitting here after her last email this morning thinking my head would explode any second now. lol

Angela

if they won't listen go over their heads and go to the their boss's trust me it works. My son had teachers who said the same thing to my son was on a program which made his teachers do what was recommanded of them and if they didn't follow the lines of which were laid down they could be in trouble and boy was this teacher in deep doo doo!

Sorry that this teacher put you through so much already and half the year is gone now and with grades YIKES how is Will's grade in her class?

 

[angwill]

if they won't listen go over their heads and go to the their boss's trust me it works. My son had teachers who said the same thing to my son was on a program which made his teachers do what was recommanded of them and if they didn't follow the lines of which were laid down they could be in trouble and boy was this teacher in deep doo doo!

Sorry that this teacher put you through so much already and half the year is gone now and with grades YIKES how is Will's grade in her class?

Nancy,
Problem is I went as high as it goes without putting in a formal complaint to the state which is what I am going to do now. Because the one teacher stepped up to help they felt that was good enough instead of telling the bad teacher to do her job. Our district is really small and everyone lives here so they stand behind each other because they are basically friends. 5 kids out of DS 5th grade class actually moved to get out of sending their kids to this middle school because it has had a bad reputation for many years.

I have enough written proof of her refusal to help DS and follow his IEP plan which she feels she is exempt from even reading. Sadly, I have not had such a hard time with a teacher since DS was in 2nd grade and that teacher was abandoning the class to walk down the road to the high school where her boyfriend worked. She was also having the class babysit her kids while her and her husband verbally and physically fought in the hallway for extended periods of time. Same principal we have now refused to believe me and other parents and just praised her as a great teacher. 2 years and about a bunch more complaints and a parent finally video taped her leaving the class and walking down the block to the high school. They finally had to fire her. Then because her kids went to that school and she obviously was mentally unstable she would come in daily to harrass the principal and her kids teachers. Thus they moved the principal and several teachers from that school to the middle school just in time for Will to start school there. It is sad that there are some really great teachers at DS school but the bad ones make it harder on everyone. I used to work at the special needs middle/high school in the area and subbed in our school district and the stupidity in our district and especially our middle school just amazed me so I finally stopped subbing in our district and worked permanently at the LD/BD school. The kids with behavior differences were easier to deal with than the teachers and administrators in our district.

Our high school is a different district and is supposed to be better so all I can do is pray Will makes it through and graduates. In this SS class the one paper I just found out about dropped his grade by 2 letters. We shall see what he gets on his report card next week. I really don't worry about his grades as long as he is learning but it's just sad that they are not helping him learn.

After this mornings message from me they moved him 5 minutes after he got in his SS class to another class. We shall see. So far the new teacher has sent him home with detailed instructions on what he needs to do for his writing assignments with due dates which is a huge improvement over the other class already. I swear I am not that hard to please I just get ticked when they refuse to help him when asked and detailed instructions is something I consider as helping.

Ang

 

[angwill]

Hey don't let my rant drive everyone into hiding. lol

 

[Poohbear67]

Nancy,
Problem is I went as high as it goes without putting in a formal complaint to the state which is what I am going to do now. Because the one teacher stepped up to help they felt that was good enough instead of telling the bad teacher to do her job. Our district is really small and everyone lives here so they stand behind each other because they are basically friends. 5 kids out of DS 5th grade class actually moved to get out of sending their kids to this middle school because it has had a bad reputation for many years.

I have enough written proof of her refusal to help DS and follow his IEP plan which she feels she is exempt from even reading. Sadly, I have not had such a hard time with a teacher since DS was in 2nd grade and that teacher was abandoning the class to walk down the road to the high school where her boyfriend worked. She was also having the class babysit her kids while her and her husband verbally and physically fought in the hallway for extended periods of time. Same principal we have now refused to believe me and other parents and just praised her as a great teacher. 2 years and about a bunch more complaints and a parent finally video taped her leaving the class and walking down the block to the high school. They finally had to fire her. Then because her kids went to that school and she obviously was mentally unstable she would come in daily to harrass the principal and her kids teachers. Thus they moved the principal and several teachers from that school to the middle school just in time for Will to start school there. It is sad that there are some really great teachers at DS school but the bad ones make it harder on everyone. I used to work at the special needs middle/high school in the area and subbed in our school district and the stupidity in our district and especially our middle school just amazed me so I finally stopped subbing in our district and worked permanently at the LD/BD school. The kids with behavior differences were easier to deal with than the teachers and administrators in our district.

Our high school is a different district and is supposed to be better so all I can do is pray Will makes it through and graduates. In this SS class the one paper I just found out about dropped his grade by 2 letters. We shall see what he gets on his report card next week. I really don't worry about his grades as long as he is learning but it's just sad that they are not helping him learn.

After this mornings message from me they moved him 5 minutes after he got in his SS class to another class. We shall see. So far the new teacher has sent him home with detailed instructions on what he needs to do for his writing assignments with due dates which is a huge improvement over the other class already. I swear I am not that hard to please I just get ticked when they refuse to help him when asked and detailed instructions is something I consider as helping.

Ang

Yes but the law is the law and she is required and so this the whole school whether another teacher steps up to the plate or not She was his teacher and she is responsible for him and she needs to follow the rules so Go Get Em Gal. I hope all works out for you.

 

[Mom2Evie]

I have enough written proof of her refusal to help DS and follow his IEP plan which she feels she is exempt from even reading. Sadly, I have not had such a hard time with a teacher since DS was in 2nd grade and that teacher was abandoning the class to walk down the road to the high school where her boyfriend worked. Ang

I hope you're able to resolve this and get your son everything he needs. just remember, YOU are your son's best advocate. If you dont' fight for him, you can't expect others to do it for you. You'll do great and he's going to be fine.

We've been really lucky so far. DD is only in the 2nd grade, but her teacher's have been great. We drew up her 504 plan earlier this year and there isn't a thing on it that her 2nd grade teacher isn't already doing. We went ahead with the process in case we come up against a teacher that isn't as proactive. Both her teacher and the assistant principal made this recommendation and they could have said nothing. I've been so impressed with how everyone has handled her issues with reading and her ADD. I couldn't have asked for a better response!! I have friends who have suggested that I'm getting such great response because I'm so involved at the school & PTA. Maybe that's a little bit true. I think I'm getting great responses because I'm a parent that cares & a parent that shows up. Put that together with a good school, good administrators and a great teacher and we'll move mountains!

 

[ANTSS2001]

Hey don't let my rant drive everyone into hiding. lol

rant away!!!

 

[Minnie&Nana]

Ang, you didn't scare me off...I just feel bad that your little one is stuck in the situation. It's absolutely horrible to have a teacher like the one you describe. I so hope it will change soon.

Without a doubt, a parent who is an advocate makes all the difference for a child - sounds like you are a very good one for your little one.

Tuesday greetings everyone! Hope today is a good day for all.

Christine

 

[ANTSS2001]

Ang, you didn't scare me off...I just feel bad that your little one is stuck in the situation. It's absolutely horrible to have a teacher like the one you describe. I so hope it will change soon.

Without a doubt, a parent who is an advocate makes all the difference for a child - sounds like you are a very good one for your little one.

Tuesday greetings everyone! Hope today is a good day for all.

Christine

Good morning M&N !!!!

 

[cherylp3]

you didn't scare me off either - I have not been aound the house too much since I get reminded of our dog. Also we are packing like crazy and getting ready to get out of here.

 

[Kristineamb]

Hey don't let my rant drive everyone into hiding. lol

I'm sorry I don't have any advice or insight for you...I guess we've been very
lucky so far with DS teachers, administrators, schools, etc
Good luck, hope it all works out

 

[angwill]

Thanks for all the support. Honestly, the teacher who stepped up to help DS is a wonderful teacher so there are good teachers at the school. It is the ones that don't care and are not given guidance from the administration (which sadly is the schools biggest weakness) to actually teach that I have the hard time with. It is good teachers who I hold in the highest regard and thank God for them since they have to deal with all the madness. I am now hoping with the switch and the teacher who offered to help he will survive this year without giving up completely. I found out that DS is the 3rd student that parents pulled from this Social studies class this year. I wonder if it will take till she has no students for the administration to admit there is an issue with her?

Social Studies, Science, and Literature (lunch and chorus too) were always his favorite subjects and I am hoping to get him enjoying Social Studies once again by year end. He is really excited about the switch so there is hope.

Ang

 

[mickeyvixie]

DRIVE BY POSTING.............

HEY Ang...I say we take Pain in the butt teach and Pain in the butt GS leader and put them in the same room and let them duke it out.

 

[ANTSS2001]

DRIVE BY POSTING.............
.

 

[mickeyvixie]

I know I am a goddess but there is no need to bow down to me....

ETA: THO.....if you do tick me off I have plenty of lightning bolts at hand LOL

 

[ANTSS2001]

I know I am a goddess but there is no need to bow down to me....

ETA: THO.....if you do tick me off I have plenty of lightning bolts at hand LOL

 

[jmskinner]

Rant on Ang. I do hope the new class works out. I'm seriously considering homeschooling my DS at the moment. DH is afraid we would kill each other though.

I'm still sick, but getting over it. Now DH has it. Hopefully his folks didn't catch it while they were here. They were all very sweet. They did all the cooking and cleaning of the kitchen for me. We did spend Sunday at Epcot and had a lot of fun. They are all gone now. His Dad and Stepmom left this morning and we drove his Mother to the airport this morning. DH managed to get pulled over for speeding. But the trooper gave him a verbal warning. I'm sure he knew DH was in enough trouble from his Mother.

Oh, I have to post our good news! My DH is now a Lieutenant Colonel. We had his promotion ceremony yesterday.

Hope everyone has a good first week after the holidays!
Melissa

 

[angwill]

oh no hide MickeyVixie is baaaaaaaaaack!!! lol Hey Vix WB, long time no see. I see your enjoying Scouts. lol

 

[angwill]

Melissa,
Congrats on the promotion for DH. Glad he didn't get a ticket for doing something nice like picking someone else up at the airport.

Honestly, it wouldn't be too hard homeschooling DS and I have seriously considered it. We get along really well and only argue about work when he misunderstands something the teacher at school says and I try to explain it different than he remembers it. I am forever catching him up in Math over summers with no problems.

My one neighbor homeschools her 5 children and there are a ton of home school families in the area. Illinois is one of the easiest states to home school in too. The only thing that stops me is there is nobody around us being in the middle of nowhere and the neighbor kids are never, ever home. DS really needs social interaction and all his friends go to his school. He would never want to leave his friends. The other drawback when I looked into pulling him from school is I found out our school district likes to punishing the families that home school by refusing to allow the kids to go into the grade they belong in. Instead they put them in the grade they left in or a year behind their peers. You can insist on testing but if your child has learning issues or doesn't test well that won't help any and they will end up a grade behind.

Honestly, this may sound nuts but if we have problems in high school I may just have DS drop at 16 and go to get his GED and start college early if I feel he is ready for that when/if we get to that point. The community college I went to was great with special needs and there are quiet testing rooms and they always had peer tutors available during the day which is a lot more help than he gets in public school. I wish I had known to do this when I was in high school because I was one of those kids who was bored to death till I graduated and I didn't take basic classes if I had the choice.

I feel in lots of cases parents can be better teachers and kids can learn more independance from home schooling and only you know if that is best for you and your DS. If you butt heads a lot maybe internet schooling would work better where you would be doing less of the actual instruction and more of the reporting.

Ang


Ang