Separated on SW flight?

No family boarding wouldn't bump anyone in the sense of off the plane, I assume the poster just meant back in boarding order. If you were in danger of being bumped you wouldn't actually even have a boarding position. They would haev given you a ticket that basically says to see the gate agent. I had this happen once with a business trip (got on fine and once I had a boarding position could board A list so was still ok for me)


My favorite place to board is actually very early Bs when I don't care where I sit (no tight connection to need to be at the front and off first) then all the little kids are seated before I pick my spot so I know they aren't behind me to kick the seat.

Well there was an "attempt" by a family to bump people. I was flying From Nashville to Orlando several years ago. We all get on and there's one man standing in the aisle without a seat. A lot of head scratching ensues and then the FAs start talking to families with kids. Family across the aisle from me had taken an "empty" seat for junior. Mom proceeds to scream at FA about how unsafe it was for her 18 month old not to be in his own seat. Gate agents come on and explain that "unsafe" or not they didn't buy the kid a seat so their options are put the kid back on their lap or get off the plane. Mom finally puts this kid on her lap. Dad takes the middle seat and the passenger gets the aisle. For the entire flight we could ALL hear mom letting Dad have it about how cheap he was and "YOU PROMISED ME WE WOULD HAVE AN EMPTY SEAT FOR HIM". FAs gave us all free drinks. My bet is dad paid for a seat coming home LOL !
 
Due to my high anxiety over seating with family, I switched airlines and couldn't be happier. I am now a Jet Blue flier and I love it! I pick my own seats and have no stress over boarding order. I can't believe all the anxiety (of my own making) I went through flying with SW. I will still fly SW but only if I am by myself and don't care where I sit.
 
Geez! Didnt realize this was such a hot button issue!! Thanks for the responses!! Im still unsure on buying the EBCI, but I am leaning towards just buying for my son and husband! If my daughter and I can board and sit together, and the two of them together, then I think that will be fine!! Again, thank you for all your responses! I appreciate the help! (Btw, I have to change my tag down the bottom. Our trip is in October!)

For a bit of perspective, it's just me and my son but I buy EBCI anyway. He actually flies southwest as an unaccompanied minor several times per year. But when it's the two of us, I see no reason to be separate. Plus it allows us to find seats closer to the front as well. But we also are flying from Chicago and usually not the first flight of the day. Your mileage will seriously vary on this one. Consider talking to your kids about the flight and what will happen.
 
Well there was an "attempt" by a family to bump people. I was flying From Nashville to Orlando several years ago. We all get on and there's one man standing in the aisle without a seat. A lot of head scratching ensues and then the FAs start talking to families with kids. Family across the aisle from me had taken an "empty" seat for junior. Mom proceeds to scream at FA about how unsafe it was for her 18 month old not to be in his own seat. Gate agents come on and explain that "unsafe" or not they didn't buy the kid a seat so their options are put the kid back on their lap or get off the plane. Mom finally puts this kid on her lap. Dad takes the middle seat and the passenger gets the aisle. For the entire flight we could ALL hear mom letting Dad have it about how cheap he was and "YOU PROMISED ME WE WOULD HAVE AN EMPTY SEAT FOR HIM". FAs gave us all free drinks. My bet is dad paid for a seat coming home LOL !

Ok that really wasn't a family boarding problem though... that would have happened with no family boarding if the family checked in before that person.

I love flying SW, partially because for business travel I end up with better seats. My company has me flying so last minute often that i get crappy seats on other airlines but I had A list on SW and got nice ones.

However I don't have children so even when flying for fun well if DH and I are seperated we are both going to be fine...
 

i would highly recommend EBCI for half of your party. If you choose not to then be ready to check in on the 24 hour mark. I really don't think you'd have an issue but obviously anything can happen. Just have a backup plan in case there is a problem.
 
Well there was an "attempt" by a family to bump people. I was flying From Nashville to Orlando several years ago. We all get on and there's one man standing in the aisle without a seat. A lot of head scratching ensues and then the FAs start talking to families with kids. Family across the aisle from me had taken an "empty" seat for junior. Mom proceeds to scream at FA about how unsafe it was for her 18 month old not to be in his own seat. Gate agents come on and explain that "unsafe" or not they didn't buy the kid a seat so their options are put the kid back on their lap or get off the plane. Mom finally puts this kid on her lap. Dad takes the middle seat and the passenger gets the aisle. For the entire flight we could ALL hear mom letting Dad have it about how cheap he was and "YOU PROMISED ME WE WOULD HAVE AN EMPTY SEAT FOR HIM". FAs gave us all free drinks. My bet is dad paid for a seat coming home LOL !

Something similar happened on a flight I was on. It was a full flight and the last person on could not find a seat. They did have some lap babies on the manifest. One of them took a seat. They asked for whoever put their lap baby in a seat to move him. No one responded. So they started calling out names on the list and asked the families to raise their hands. Suddenly there was an empty seat.......
 
Partially correct. There is no reason that the entire family should be allowed to board with the lap child/infant etc. So SW could allow ONE parent for each child under two or in a car seat and be in compliance with the regulations. (No the regulations don't say that your 5 year old has to sit with you!) I think that the compromise of allowing one or two parents with each child under 6 is fine. No if you and your parents, cousins and hangers on are coming along you don't ALL get family boarding with the one 3 year old and if you try to "save seats" you can easily find out that you are now left with just one parent next to the 3 year old as the rest of us ignore your rude behavior. Trust me, business travelers love to upset the "entitled seat savers LOL"

(And of course SW has NO planes with a "single-side seat row")

Never said that there was. SWA *customarily* allows nuclear families (2 adults and all their children) to board together when one of the children qualifies, but they don't guarantee it. I have seen many situations on crowded connecting flights where only one adult per qualified child was allowed to use FB. FTR, I hate seat savers as much as the next FF (I said that I traveled frequently on SWA with my children, and I do, but I travel even more frequently without them.) IME, it is now pretty standard on the MCO routes for the gate agent to remind people that Family Boarding is for PARENTS traveling with young children only, and that the other adults in the party must board with their letter group.

Again, it's about profit. Other airlines may choose to make money on seat assignment purchase fees, and SWA chooses to make money on faster turnarounds -- it's a legitimate business policy choice. Any policy that reduces the opportunity for passengers to delay boarding feeds the bottom line, and SWA has determined that letting entire nuclear families who have a child under 7 in the party board together MOST of the time saves the most time when boarding. If they lose you as a passenger, so be it; even as a FF, the loss of profit from one person's business fares pale beside the downstream cost of delayed departures.

SWA does, of course, have planes with a single-side seat row; every commercial passenger plane in existence does.
What I meant was "all of the seats in each numbered row that are on the same side of an aisle". On SWA's fleet, excluding the exit rows, there are always 6 seats in each row, three seats on either side of the aisle. Thus there are 4 oxygen masks available for each single-side seat row, and a total of eight for the entire numbered row. You are not allowed to hold an oxygen line across the aisle because it impedes movement of the crew, so if you have two adults who each have a lap-carried infant both trying to sit in Aisle 7, they will have to sit like this if they want to sit "next" to one
another: "7A 7B 7C aisle 7D 7E 7F" (Red denotes the seats they are sitting in.) Even if they are total strangers, each one will have to sit somewhere on the opposite side of the aisle from the other if they are both in the same numbered row.
 
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Thanks again! I didn't realize this was such a hot issue. I am not trying to skate on unnoticed, get anything for free, or trying to get myself, family, and extended family on a flight with family boarding!! Maybe I should have clarified but i just wanted to know if I need to buy EBCI to have a better chance of sitting together, or is it not necessary to do that. Maybe it was something that i have thought about before booking with SW, but I really didnt anticipate it being much of an issue, thinking no one else really wants to sit with someone elses kids! I know ECBI still doesnt guarantee seats together either. With all that in mind, as well as input from other boards, we have figured out exactly what we are going to do! Thank you everyone!

Again, departing from PVD at 5:30 AM going to TPA indicates but doesn't guarantee that you will find seats together. Especially if there isn't a Fall Break in RI or SE MA, and you board the plane with the expectation that adjacent seats will be more likely toward the back of the plane and move t g were accordingly (without stopping to question if specific seats are available or stow your carry on s far from your potential seats), there really isn't a need for the "fine, you sit with my SN child!" threat.

Exactly the point I was trying to make with that comment about my SN child to the other poster(no guarantee). But your right, I am thinking the same thing. Thanks!

OP - Good luck on boarding, and have a great trip!

Thank you!

For a bit of perspective, it's just me and my son but I buy EBCI anyway. He actually flies southwest as an unaccompanied minor several times per year. But when it's the two of us, I see no reason to be separate. Plus it allows us to find seats closer to the front as well. But we also are flying from Chicago and usually not the first flight of the day. Your mileage will seriously vary on this one. Consider talking to your kids about the flight and what will happen.

Thank you! I am going to do just that.
 
My reasoning for buying EBCI .. when it comes to gambling my luck tanks.

If there is a 50/50 chance of me getting a favorable thing .. I will want to up my odds.
 
This is the way Southwest does it. It's very clearly spelled out on their site that 1) Family boarding is between A and B and 2) You're not guaranteed an A pass with EBCI. We can debate the rightness or wrongness of the policy (I actually agree with you!) but if you're this worked up over it, maybe best to stop flying Southwest.

I have seen SWA not offer family boarding between A & B on full flights out of MCO.

Does family boarding ever actually bump folks? I wouldn't think so.

Basically, the way I see it is that the OP- and anyone else who flies Southwest- has two options. Play seat lottery and prepare to get a separated from your party, or pay for early boarding. In the OP's case- I understand anxiety, but kids that age should not have to sit next to their parents unless they're special needs. They're old enough to be prepped for the idea that they may be a few rows away. It's one of those southwest complaints I don't get- if you're anxious about not sitting with your party, why fly southwest? Why fly in any situation without assigned seats?

SWA announced they will no longer be overselling flights

I understand that many are doing Disney on a dime, by necessity. It is a way to save a few $$$ but if your circumstances indicate you must be seated next to your child/parent/best friend; then buy EBIC and make the difference up somewhere else in the trip's costs.
 
I was confused on how the tangent started about early boarding

Because some passengers conflate EBCI with early boarding and apparently become displeased when SWA fails to board all those who "paid extra" before anyone who did not.
 
This is why I don't think I would ever enjoy flying Southwest. Boarding sounds too confusing and too stressful. Having said that, I have loads of friends who LOVE flying with Southwest and are fiercely loyal to the brand.

OP - Good luck on boarding, and have a great trip!
Different strokes for different folks. I have almost always flown SWA. When we flew Delta to Hawaii this past September I remembered exactly why I find SWA to have a much simpler boarding policy.

Here's Delta's policy:
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I don't believe with Delta pre-board you actually have to prove anything (correct me if I'm wrong on that) and is where families needing extra time would board. All personal opinion here but just looking at that list above is confusing. And if you're just a normal passenger without their CC, without their frequent flyer status, who is in Zone 2 (Edited: corrected zone number) who has booked Main Cabin look how many will board before you.
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For SWA you are assigned A, B C boarding group and a number from 1-60 (with the exception of Business Select which is either bought as that fare or upgraded at the gate and the numbers are A1-15). Family boarding is between A and B. There is also pre-board-according to SWA it "is available for Customers who have specific seating needs to accommodate a disability, and/or need assistance in boarding the aircraft, and/or need to stow an assistive device. If you have a disability and require preboarding, you should request a Preboarding Document from the Customer Service Agent at your departure gate."
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As far as stressfull at least with concerns to Delta (and I believe how other airlines at least treat boarding) it's just a Zone (or a group or whatnot with other airlines) not a specific number which means you are still fighting to get on the airplane before other people.....because even though you have an assigned seat overhead bin space is still an issue. When I flew Delta in September people were crowding the area near the gate agent just waiting for their group or zone to be called. It's not like they were sitting back in their airport seats all patient-like because they had an assigned seat.

Honestly airlines in general are likely to have some component that causes stress to a person.
 
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Because some passengers conflate EBCI with early boarding and apparently become displeased when SWA fails to board all those who "paid extra" before anyone who did not.
Yeah there seems to be at least one person on threads like these that says "early boarding" rather than "early bird".
 
Because some passengers conflate EBCI with early boarding and apparently become displeased when SWA fails to board all those who "paid extra" before anyone who did not.

Yeah there seems to be at least one person on threads like these that says "early boarding" rather than "early bird".
Ah, you are right. I had totally missed that. Probably because when I saw ECBI I knew it meant early check in, not boarding. It never matters to us if we sit together or not. I mean, it's nice but it's not like make or break for a trip. We are together on vacation, so what if we aren't for an hour flight. So we don't buy it. I do check in at 24 hours on the dot, it's never a problem, even at Disney, since the phone tells me when it's time. So far we've always sat together. If I ever had a situation like OP where it was make or break we would pay for it without question. And probably attempt to pay for early boarding once we arrive. Or even check the totals of all that and make sure one of the legacy airlines where you pick seats isn't cheaper.
 
Oh my gosh! This thread is crazy.

Listen, I have flown southwest for 8.5 years with kids. We always use family boarding and always get seats together. My kids are 8.5 and 5.5 now. They let myself, my husband and my 2 kids board. I suppose, in theory, they could deny my husband and 8.5 year old, but they never have in over 50 flights. We usually get on and take one whole row for myself and the boys and my husband sits in another row.

When my youngest turns 7 and maxes out of family boarding, we will buy early bird check in when we buy the tickets. If we get a B pass, we will probably try and upgrade to priority at the airport.

The extra $ is totally worth not stressing, but honestly we don't stress over family boarding. Never ever had an issue, not even close.

And to the posters who don't like family boarding - I get it. But, like someone else said, you are not buying the right to board early, you are buying the ability to not have to check in. You could buy a more expensive ticket to guarantee you spots 1-15 on the flight. You choose not to. Family boarding in a southwest policy, like it or not. And, for the airline, it clearly makes sense because the airline is doing well and rarely do I see delays due to families requesting seats together. Whatever happened to having empathy and compassion. It's hard enough to travel with kids. If you are not traveling with them, you really can sit by yourself, and likely won't even if you have a B boarding pass.
 
There is also pre-board-according to SWA it "is available for Customers who have specific seating needs to accommodate a disability, and/or need assistance in boarding the aircraft, and/or need to stow an assistive device. If you have a disability and require preboarding, you should request a Preboarding Document from the Customer Service Agent at your departure gate."

I don't know whether or not this applies to OP, but if a child has ADHD, or other disability, such as being on the autism spectrum, I would think this would qualify the family to pre-board, as defined above.

Specifically, a child's disability could result in the seating need to sit next to a caregiver.
 


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