Separate Boards a Failure?

[Caskbill]

Yes, we're listening.

Just to let you know, we have a number of exciting things we're planning for the DVC-boards during 2006.

We are aware of the confusion over the board 'names' and will be addressing that topic, along with several other things.

Look for some exciting things to come...

Yes, that's really us, the moderators for the DVC boards. But it will also include YOU, the DVC board members. That's why the new TEAM Username was created. You'll start to see more of it in the future. Many of you furnish a great deal of information about DVC, and thus contribute to these boards which to us is as team members. We'll have more on all this as we get some of the final things organized.

And sorry, but we're not the big announcement on the billboard....We're just as curious as you are....

 

[nicurn]

Personally any sense of community that I felt on the DIS boards (DVC & the Cooking, Crafting, Scrapping board) are long gone. The warm & fuzzies are not here any more. Many of us on both of the above mentioned DIS boards have found friendlier (warmer & fuzzier) places to visit, gather & share info, etc. I don't read the DIS or post on the DIS nearly as much as I used to read & post. I know life changes, & there have been changes to the DIS, but I "vote" with my keyboard .

I second judith m. I am a dvc member and have posted on the dvc boards in the past and it used to be a fun place, now it's not. The same thing has happened over on the cooking/scrapping/etc boards. They used to be fun. they aren't anymore. Good luck with all your changes, I for one won't be around for them, I'm tired of the attitudes of some of the newer mods, the posts disappearing, being moved, being locked, etc. maggie

 

[tothebeach9]

Oh, I agree with you. There have been any number of things I would have liked to share, but I wanted to share them here, not have them moved away.

A dearly loved canine member of our family died unexpectedly while we were at BWV last October. I was beyond bereft and wanted to run here for a bit of solice from friends - but I knew it wouldn't be considered "DVC" enough. I was far from home, I'd been GONE when my pet died - without me - and my heart was breaking. I finally opted for the Community board. They were very helpful, but it just wasn't the same.

There just HAS to be room for things like this on our DVC boards - somewhere.

DisFlan

Sorry about your loss, that can be hard.

Not sure I understand why that is OK on the community board but not OK to share with the smaller DVC community. Seems like people know each other pretty well here. If the interest and shall we use the economic term of "demand" exists, seems like providing some "supply" isn't terribly unreasonable. Of course that's up to the suppliers. By the way, got a nice note from the timeshare store supplier.

 

[JimMIA]

I second judith m. I am a dvc member and have posted on the dvc boards in the past and it used to be a fun place, now it's not. The same thing has happened over on the cooking/scrapping/etc boards. They used to be fun. they aren't anymore. Good luck with all your changes, I for one won't be around for them, I'm tired of the attitudes of some of the newer mods, the posts disappearing, being moved, being locked, etc. maggie

I wouldn't be too tough on the new mods. We're adjusting to the new setup, and they are adjusting to their new responsibilities. I do think they are much more open to listening and making adjustments. Time will tell, but let's give them a sporting chance. They ARE all good people; let's not forget that.

In his post above, Tony explained the deletion of his own post, and if he thinks it was justified and handled professionally (which he does), I'm certainly not going to second-guess him.

Also, in fairness, I have personally advocated the consolidating and locking of some of the 1,417 threads on the new Disney Dining Plan.

Frankly, there are a lot of either inexperienced or lazy people who read absolutely nothing before posting the same old question for the millionth time. Everyone would benefit (including the initiators of the duplicate threads) if the mods would put a nice note to see a certain thread, with a link, and then lock the thread down. It's just a waste of bandwidth and a scattering of information. Multiple duplicative threads reduce the exchange of information.

I'm personally disappointed with where this particular board has gone, but it wasn't THIS group of mods who sent it there. Let's give them a chance.

 

[JudithM]

I wouldn't be too tough on the new mods. We're adjusting to the new setup, and they are adjusting to their new responsibilities. I do think they are much more open to listening and making adjustments. Time will tell, but let's give them a sporting chance. They ARE all good people; let's not forget that.

NICURN said some of the mods. I haven't followed the DVC board closely over the past few months, but the lack of info, lack of moderator leadership on other boards on the DIS is what I think has both NICURN & me looking for other places to share info.

 

[JimMIA]

NICURN said some of the mods. I haven't followed the DVC board closely over the past few months, but the lack of info, lack of moderator leadership on other boards on the DIS is what I think has both NICURN & me looking for other places to share info.

You are right, and I misread her post. However, the mods here probably have little, if any, control over what happens on other DIS forums, so I won't hold that against THESE mods. Other mods, sure, but not these mods.

 

[tothebeach9]

hmmm
seems like discussion says current set up is not as enjoyable
anyone like it better?
how should it be done?

 

[bobbiwoz]

I liked the idea of a "DVC Community Board," but I thought it did go off on tangents that had nothing to do with anything I wanted to spend my time on. So, I ignored them.

DisFlan, I am so sorry to hear that your beloved pet is gone. When we came back from Cape May this Christmas, we brought back 2 additional dogs, our Boston Family just had to give them up, things were getting to be "too much" with 3 young children and the 2 dogs. I wanted to come here to see if people I already "knew" in some sense had some tips on handling my now 3 large canine friends.

Mostly, I come to this web site to learn about Disney things, (Theme Parks and Strategies) and DVC in particular. It has made my family's enjoyment of WDW 100 times better because of what I've learned.

I'll adapt, as long as the board is helpful. I enjoy word games and the large majority of my posts are on the Community board. I also enjoy exchanges. That's why things like the sharing of DVC Christmas trees is something that I do.

I do wish for a stronger sense of DVC Community, here!

Bobbi

 

[greenban]

My sense and my two cents:

From many of the people who have replied and posted and 'talked' to me. Many of us want our sense of community back. We (those of us above) enjoyed our cyberfriendships, could share a personal loss or sucess and 'felt' we were still at 'Home' here on our thread while away from WDW.

Others want a sense of 'fairness', no missing threads, deleted posts, seemingly harsh bannings (to be fair, it may only seem harsh).

Some want a sense of order, to know where to post their thread, to not have 1,400+ threads on a single topic.

All of us want the best source of Disney info on the planet!

And the majority of us want/epect it for free!

My take is that the DISboards generate alot of 'traffic' for Pete and his travel agency, and when members of 8+ years and THOUSANDS of posts are voting with their keyboards (great line BTW), they should be concerned (assumming my take on the purpose of the DIS is correct)

I would like to see a return to a real community board, where cyberfriend can reach out to cyberfriend. Thats what I like. Some people (DVCers in this case) have started their own site, with a real sense of community. Others who are (forgive me) disenfranchised, for years have had an anti-Dis board, where they routinely and uncensordly (new word!) tear apart posters and post over here. That's what's great about the web, for some server space, and dedicated BoardOps you can set up what you want.

Was I happy about my poll and post being deleted? No.

Do I understand the reason? Yes, because it was explained to me, and I appreciate that. And it truly was my mistake. Explanations are something that did not happen in the past, and I really appreciate that new direction.

I'm also glad I wasn't banned for all this grief I have caused. Yes that was not my intent, and yes I believe in free speech, but I made the (honest) error, and the Mods are taking a lot of heat, sparked in part by my actions.

In the past, I was banned for such actions.

I hope we see a return to our sense of community, and from the several excellent posts from our uber-users, it seems the problems are DIS wide, not limited to the DVC subs, I hope our home can be 'saved'.

Sincerely,

-Tony

PS What do you want?

 

[DisFlan]

PS What do you want?

I think you pretty much covered it, Tony. I realize a private board isn't a democracy, but users post best where they feel involved and comfortable posting. At this point, we need a bit more of both here.

DisFlan

 

[athenna]

The only thing I want to say on this topic is I miss the community feel.

 

[Jimbo]

PS What do you want?

I use the DVC boards as a tool. For example, when I wanted to know what people think of the new resort, I came here. This board clued me in to new perks (DDE), provided me with a sample contract the time I rented points, gave me a method to transfer points the one time I did that, and a lot of other things. It saved me at least a dozen calls to MS.

That's the reason that the two board philosophy was a failure, in my eyes. It spread the info across two boards, and it was never clear what belonged where. It became harder to do research, without any upside (to me).

I don't come here for a community. For the period of time that this was the DVC Community board, I ignored all of the "fluff" stuff that was non-DVC in nature. As long as it didn't get in the way - and sometimes it did - it didn't bother me.

Now, that's just me. I think that most people here are like that, although perhaps these people aren't the ones making the most posts. I come here when I'm planning a WDW trip, while the "community types" are here all the time.

So I guess the bottom line is that I prefer things the way they were back in the days of the single board. I can usually get used to anything, but I still haven't gotten used to the split.

 

[mark&sue]

I have only just started to come back to the DVC boards as I have been spending most of my time on the UK community board which I hardly went to prior to the termination of the DVC community board.

So in a way it did my a favour in getting more friends on the UK board. However I really miss the DVC community board as I am constantly thinking about DVC.

I have spent a lot money buying my 520 points (in October 2004) and to-date have only spent one night at SSR. This board helped me feel my money was worth spent for the majority of the time when I am not on vacation but at work (well home after work as not allowed to DIS at work). After all we spend more time not at WDW than at it. This was my escape. When the board first went I thought I would fall to pieces as I felt like I had lost my friends and felt very alone.

I now just got used to it but I do still miss it.

Sorry to ramble on but just wanted to say how I feel.

Thanks for listening.


Susan

 

[LIFERBABE]

I miss all my friends too! The days of just posting a happy smiley are gone. I am here, because of the strong sense of community that was on the DVC boards up until recently. There was never an issue of getting "legit" questions answered, because there was always someone here just hanging out. If anything, questions were over analyzed and answers were detailed because there were so many great people here to help out. I felt everyone contributed, even the salty ones!
Now it seems, you have to have a nightmare or harrowing DVC experience to get 5 replies or you have to convince someone to buy in. Dont have a great trip, your thread will be dead before the server recognizes it!
Yeah, we bickered, but all in all, we were a pretty supportive group and would give our last point to help each other out. Ive made great "real" "tangible" friends on this board, and I really don't see that happening the way things are now.
Everybody cant just show up when they need something. I mean they can, but hopefully they give as much as they take. That is the only way to keep these boards going. I have learned everything I know about DVC right here on the DIS, from wonderful supportive, kind people. Many are still here, many have left and many are new or lurkers. I hope to help someone as I have been helped. There is a thread right now, what do you wish you would have known..........Well I can honestly say NOTHING! because of the people on the DVC boards. No Surprises and the best thing we have ever done! I got all that and "FunFluff" too!
There are aspects of clinical and technical and alot less fun. I already have a real job so hopefully there is a medium.

 

[greenban]

I use the DVC boards as a tool. For example, when I wanted to know what people think of the new resort, I came here. This board clued me in to new perks (DDE), provided me with a sample contract the time I rented points, gave me a method to transfer points the one time I did that, and a lot of other things. It saved me at least a dozen calls to MS.

That's the reason that the two board philosophy was a failure, in my eyes. It spread the info across two boards, and it was never clear what belonged where. It became harder to do research, without any upside (to me).

I don't come here for a community. For the period of time that this was the DVC Community board, I ignored all of the "fluff" stuff that was non-DVC in nature. As long as it didn't get in the way - and sometimes it did - it didn't bother me.

Now, that's just me. I think that most people here are like that, although perhaps these people aren't the ones making the most posts. I come here when I'm planning a WDW trip, while the "community types" are here all the time.

So I guess the bottom line is that I prefer things the way they were back in the days of the single board. I can usually get used to anything, but I still haven't gotten used to the split.

Jimbo, I'm curious, how did the community fluff get in the way?

I'm very interested in your prespective!

TIA,

-Tony

 

[Rozzie]

okay, I wasen't going to respond to this thread, but I guess I'll throw in my 2 cents. I believe there is a different flavor here, and it is not a community one. I think seperating the boards really kind of dosed the fire with water. I maybe want to talk about a death in the family, my dog being sick, or how much I hate work. Or I may want to talk about nothing...
Also, I also really have to say is I have been shocked at the amount of negativity here lately. To whom, you ask? Well this may sound childish, but I am tired of the anti-community spirit, especially againist the new SSR owners. I know, the new resort always gets picked on, but to read some of the things I have read about my home, and to be told I am...well we all know the SSR catfights...
I have found a new home, but I wish everyone the best. I really think the DIS is a great site for information, and will still DIS to get answers to planning and breaking news on DVC. (I mean come on, take the wrapper off the billboard for pete sake's! )

 

[JimMIA]

Jimbo, I'm curious, how did the community fluff get in the way?

I'm very interested in your prespective!

TIA,

-Tony

From his posts, I don't think Jimbo ever really had anything against the "fluff." I think his concern -- and frankly, he's right -- is that the information was scattered between two boards and therefore very hard to find sometimes.

The classic, I think, was the two "waiting" threads. There was a thread on the DVC Board for those folks waiting to buy points direct from Disney via waitlist. We also had Beca/vascubaguy's thread for those waiting for ROFR. By some logic understood only by a handful of people, that thread was on the Community Board. Made no sense, and it made getting information difficult.

It seems to me that the simple fix is to have ONE board for DVC information, and another for owner-to-owner discussions. We all know "Fluff happens," but that way, when it did, it wouldn't clog up the board for folks like Jimbo (and a lot of us) who are just there looking for a specific piece of information.

As an example, I was on another board last night, talking to a couple of other DVC owners. About what? Marathon training! I don't see any harm in that, but I can certainly understand if Jimbo doesn't want to wade through that to get info on ME or DDE.

 

[sz9144]

perhaps we need a fourth forum page- called:

here is my question, where does it go?

then people can post what they want to ask and people can tell them where to post.

cuz as a newbie I am still trying to decode it all.....

 

[jiggerj]

okay, I wasen't going to respond to this thread, but I guess I'll throw in my 2 cents. I believe there is a different flavor here, and it is not a community one. I think seperating the boards really kind of dosed the fire with water. I maybe want to talk about a death in the family, my dog being sick, or how much I hate work. Or I may want to talk about nothing...
Also, I also really have to say is I have been shocked at the amount of negativity here lately. To whom, you ask? Well this may sound childish, but I am tired of the anti-community spirit, especially againist the new SSR owners. I know, the new resort always gets picked on, but to read some of the things I have read about my home, and to be told I am...well we all know the SSR catfights...
I have found a new home, but I wish everyone the best. I really think the DIS is a great site for information, and will still DIS to get answers to planning and breaking news on DVC. (I mean come on, take the wrapper off the billboard for pete sake's! )

I am going to throw my 2 cents in here with Rozzie's and absolutely agree. Well put Rozzie!

 

[OneMoreTry]

The DVC Community Board was the best of the DVC perks. Now it's gone but we still get a reduced annual pass rate and 10% off at Ghiradelli in DD.

I'm surprised this thread is still here. It would have been deleted a few months ago. So maybe that's a good sign. Another good sign is the fact it has stayed calm and respectful.

Does that mean we're grown up enough to have our Community Board back?