Screaming baby vent

That's a pet peeve of mine too. That and people that talk really loud and syrupy sweet to their kids so everyone can see what darling children they have and how good a parent they are. Just talk to your kids normal folks they aren't circus animals, you aren't putting on a show and please take care of your screaming crying kid.

another one of our pet peeves at work....They talk really loud so you have to notice how adorable their child is...

I swear I really do like kids.....but in the appropriate venue....not screaming during a presentation, the movies, my dinner etc...
 
I haven't read all the responses. There was a screaming baby at my son's confirmation. This child screamed the entire ceremony, which was taped by the way. We were livid. How rude of that person. It wasn't a parent of the child being confirmed but a guest. How about if you leave so the rest of us, parents and confirmed child, can enjoy the day?:furious:
 
Fussy is one thing, and I am sure you were attempting to calm them, right? I have two children, and I understand not wanting to take them out. That being said, I don't really think you should "teach them a lesson" at the expense of every other person in the place!

Of course I was attempting to calm them! I would NEVER just sit there and let my child/baby whatever wail in a public place and not do something about it. I MEANT that if they were just being obnoxious - whining or whatever - (age 18 months and up) they were given a warning to stop the behavior and if they did not punishment ensued. It is the same in the store - my kids do not pitch a fit for a toy/candy every time we go somewhere because I taught them early on that they do not receive a treat every time we go somewhere. It is a process that must be taught and you cannot possibly teach a child to behave in public if you don't take them in public. That was my point.
 

Just yesterday, I had a similar dilemma, only it was MY baby that was restless. I had no one to watch him while we went to DS7's classroom awards and play. It lasted only an hour, but my 16 month old made it known he was there. My mom and stepdad were there...

This is where I don't buy the 'don't have anyone to watch him/her' argument. This is a perfect example; your mother and stepfather were there...why couldn't she or your stepdad babysit at home? Yes, I'm sure they'd love to see your other child's awards but then the OTHER parents might be disturbed from seeing THEIR child's awards because of your younger child. It's all a matter of choices. Imo, the op likely had someone to leave the child with but for whatever reason chose not to. I know that my sister often says she doesn't have a sitter, can't afford a sitter, etc. Bull****. Her dh just subscribed to Netflix. For the cost of that every month they could put aside the same money for a sitter occasionally. The truth is, she doesn't WANT to leave her kids. And that's ok in general, no one says you HAVE to leave your kids...but it's NOT ok for your decision then to impact other people (i.e. YOU choose not to leave your kids so you take a small child to a school function for another child and your younger child is disruptive.).
 
Not necessarily true, babies are very capable of learning consequences (depending on the age).

Can you teach consequences to a baby to the point of making them not cry and wail?

I mean, it has been a long time since my son was a baby - but he tended to carry on when he was hungry, wet, or tired.:confused3
 
This is where I don't buy the 'don't have anyone to watch him/her' argument. This is a perfect example; your mother and stepfather were there...why couldn't she or your stepdad babysit at home? Yes, I'm sure they'd love to see your other child's awards but then the OTHER parents might be disturbed from seeing THEIR child's awards because of your younger child. It's all a matter of choices. Imo, the op likely had someone to leave the child with but for whatever reason chose not to. I know that my sister often says she doesn't have a sitter, can't afford a sitter, etc. Bull****. Her dh just subscribed to Netflix. For the cost of that every month they could put aside the same money for a sitter occasionally. The truth is, she doesn't WANT to leave her kids. And that's ok in general, no one says you HAVE to leave your kids...but it's NOT ok for your decision then to impact other people (i.e. YOU choose not to leave your kids so you take a small child to a school function for another child and your younger child is disruptive.).

I have to respond to this because it is not that cut and dry. Just because the grandparents were there does not mean they can and will watch a child for you. Many grandparents are not capable (healthwise or otherwise) to care for a child. So just because they are there does not mean that they could have stayed home to babysit. As for the money issue. Well I can afford a babysitter. However I don't know any. Nobody around here babysits. The teens have real jobs at stores. They are not interested in babysitting. The other families that I have met only use their family to babysit (same as us) except they have huge families. We do not. I agree that you should not disrupt a function and as I have said I have watched many things from the back doors of the auditorium so as not to disturb anyone- but your solution is not that simple for most people.
 
boy you would have had a real problem with the mom who brought her 3 or 4 year old the the Friday night 10:15 sho of Sex and the City last week. umm, yeah there's a reason that movie is rated R

When I saw Silence of the Lambs a guy sat in the same row with me with a 7 or 8 year old girl. Who played with a doll in her lap the entire movie. But still never should have been there.

It really took me out of the movie to wonder just what the poor girl's reaction was to some pretty brutal material.
 
I have to respond to this because it is not that cut and dry. Just because the grandparents were there does not mean they can and will watch a child for you. Many grandparents are not capable (healthwise or otherwise) to care for a child. So just because they are there does not mean that they could have stayed home to babysit. As for the money issue. Well I can afford a babysitter. However I don't know any. Nobody around here babysits. The teens have real jobs at stores. They are not interested in babysitting. The other families that I have met only use their family to babysit (same as us) except they have huge families. We do not. I agree that you should not disrupt a function and as I have said I have watched many things from the back doors of the auditorium so as not to disturb anyone- but your solution is not that simple for most people.

I think it's as simple or as complicated as people make it out to be. Yes, it's possible that the grandparents are unable to sit. I was using their statement as an example since that person posted they had no sitter but the grandparents were at the event, and didn't explain why the grandparents didn't babysit.

Most people, in my experiece, 'can't find' a sitter when they don't WANT a sitter...they haven't really tried.

Have you ever advertised for a sitter? Put up a flyer at church or called the local HS to see if there's an honor student they'd recommend? Called the Red Cross for a list of who has taken their babysitting course who might want a job? I just don't believe that if you felt you needed a sitter you couldn't find one...I just don't buy that.

I think you just choose not to have one. That's ok, your choice...I stand by my post.
 
. There was a screaming baby at my son's confirmation. This child screamed the entire ceremony, which was taped by the way.

This is when the minister/priest/school administrator has to say "We're going to take a little break while somebody steps out and calms down." And then everybody stares until the person with the crying baby leaves.
 
I have to respond to this because it is not that cut and dry. Just because the grandparents were there does not mean they can and will watch a child for you. Many grandparents are not capable (healthwise or otherwise) to care for a child. So just because they are there does not mean that they could have stayed home to babysit. As for the money issue. Well I can afford a babysitter. However I don't know any. Nobody around here babysits. The teens have real jobs at stores. They are not interested in babysitting. The other families that I have met only use their family to babysit (same as us) except they have huge families. We do not. I agree that you should not disrupt a function and as I have said I have watched many things from the back doors of the auditorium so as not to disturb anyone- but your solution is not that simple for most people.

I just wanted to say I was going to say the same things, but you saved me the effort. :)
 
I so know what you mean. I am sOOOOO sick of events being ruined for others do to children who are out of control. Your right to see your kid's whatever or do whatever does NOT supercede the rights of others to do the same. I am sick of adults doing the same with their cell phone conversations as well -- it's part of the same stupid self-absorption of society in which MY wants are more important than anyone else's.

We had this happen at my dd's kindergarten graduation performance. She attended a private arts school and the kids had spent weeks writing and preparing a 30 minute musical production for their graduation. This was being filmed to make a dvd for the parents as a souvenir. Before it even started, a baby sister started to wail. The child was mind-numbingly loud to the point where you couldn't hear the music, this was in a small room, and the performers were totally distracted. This went on for 10 minutes, dirty looks etc. We also had a dad who kept talking on his cell phone. Finally, during a break between numbers, my dh spoke to the cell phone dad and I said something to the screaming baby mom. The dad put his phone away and the mom left the room. Everyone then thanked us for doing what they didn't have the guts to do -- even the teachers and principal.

And recently, our pastor was giving a brief update about a truly horrendous situation in his family. It's an unbelievable tragedy that seemingly has no end and all of us cannot believe who he has held himself together and is able to talk about it without constantly breaking down. Well, this baby starts shrieking louder and louder and louder and so the pastor has to nearly start YELLING the story of this nightmare. Finally, the assoc pastor got up and told the mom to take the baby to the cry room.
Mom: "But I want to hear!"
Assoc pastor said, "Well, so does everyone else and no one can bec your baby is shrieking."
"Pastor can just yell. I'm not leaving."

Most people, in my experiece, 'can't find' a sitter when they don't WANT a sitter...they haven't really tried.

Have you ever advertised for a sitter? Put up a flyer at church or called the local HS to see if there's an honor student they'd recommend? Called the Red Cross for a list of who has taken their babysitting course who might want a job? I just don't believe that if you felt you needed a sitter you couldn't find one...I just don't buy that.
How nice to be so self-righteous.

You must not live in an area like around here. When you have no back up (no family or friends) and live in an area where you are persona non grata bec YOU weren't born there, it's a far different matter.

Believe me, I tried all those ideas and more. No luck. Because we weren't born here, we have no friends (yes, people have been saying to our face when we'd be friendly and invite them to do things for 18 years that they dont know us and don't want to since they didn't go to kindergarten with us. Or rather, ten years of trying. We gave up after a decade of trying because at a certain point persistence=stupidity). Parents would not allow their teens to babysit our dd because they didn't go to school with us. Especially when they heard I am originally from NYC, because 'everyone knows' New Yorkers are all mobsters. Yup. This is where I live.

Older babysitters were non-existent and sorry, I'm not hiring some stranger on Craig's List. Not gonna do it. I realize that some folks are perfectly fine having a total stranger with references from other strangers come into their home and care for their precious child -- I am not one of them.

That does not mean we imposed our child on others, however.

Our solution was that we didn't go places and if we had no choice, we immediately took our dd out at the first scene even of fussing, let alone crying. My dh and I basically never went out together to adult places except for when my mother would come to visit once a year. We survived. And frankly, the lack of back up is one reason we only have one child.
 
When you have no back up (no family or friends) and live in an area where you are persona non grata bec YOU weren't born there, it's a far different matter.

Why on earth do you stay? Because that seems not only very lonely but downright dangerous.

I don't know my neighbors now the way I knew them as a child, but I certainly wouldn't be afraid to call them if I needed emergency backup for something. I remember going to a neighbor's house so she could get us off to school when my mom went into labor. I remember a neighbor driving me to my summer job when my ride fell through and the taxi wouldn't come and I was late and afraid I'd be fired. A couple of years ago a couple of neighbors and I broke into another neighbor's house because we had all gotten flooded and they weren't home and God knows what was happening in their basement (we managed to save photo albums and some expensive musical equipment, but it was too late for most of the rest of it).

Would your neighbors pick you up if they saw you stranded on the side of the road? Come over and shovel your driveway if you broke a leg or everybody in the house was down with the flu?

Because even if you barely speak to them, that's the minimum I'd expect from a neighbor.
 
This is where I don't buy the 'don't have anyone to watch him/her' argument. This is a perfect example; your mother and stepfather were there...why couldn't she or your stepdad babysit at home?
This is another thread in itself. It was also frustrating that some kids had grandparents, aunts and uncles there and there were not enough seats for everyone. Each kid should be allowed a certain number of guests, it's not fair that some parents should stand while grandparents are comfortable sitting. I know, I'm OT on my own thread!

If they are truly a baby then I beg to differ.
Which is why I said "depending on the age".


Would your neighbors pick you up if they saw you stranded on the side of the road? Come over and shovel your driveway if you broke a leg or everybody in the house was down with the flu?
This is much different than asking them to babysit while you go to a school event.
 
I so know what you mean. I am sOOOOO sick of events being ruined for others do to children who are out of control. Your right to see your kid's whatever or do whatever does NOT supercede the rights of others to do the same. I am sick of adults doing the same with their cell phone conversations as well -- it's part of the same stupid self-absorption of society in which MY wants are more important than anyone else's.

We had this happen at my dd's kindergarten graduation performance. She attended a private arts school and the kids had spent weeks writing and preparing a 30 minute musical production for their graduation. This was being filmed to make a dvd for the parents as a souvenir. Before it even started, a baby sister started to wail. The child was mind-numbingly loud to the point where you couldn't hear the music, this was in a small room, and the performers were totally distracted. This went on for 10 minutes, dirty looks etc. We also had a dad who kept talking on his cell phone. Finally, during a break between numbers, my dh spoke to the cell phone dad and I said something to the screaming baby mom. The dad put his phone away and the mom left the room. Everyone then thanked us for doing what they didn't have the guts to do -- even the teachers and principal.

And recently, our pastor was giving a brief update about a truly horrendous situation in his family. It's an unbelievable tragedy that seemingly has no end and all of us cannot believe who he has held himself together and is able to talk about it without constantly breaking down. Well, this baby starts shrieking louder and louder and louder and so the pastor has to nearly start YELLING the story of this nightmare. Finally, the assoc pastor got up and told the mom to take the baby to the cry room.
Mom: "But I want to hear!"
Assoc pastor said, "Well, so does everyone else and no one can bec your baby is shrieking."
"Pastor can just yell. I'm not leaving."

Good for you for speaking up during the recital. Sometimes the admin of schools don't want to admonish a parent...but another parent can do it with no problem!

Cellphone addicts drive me nuts almost as much as screaming children. Yes, EVERYONE wants to hear one half of an inane conversation when they're trying to concentrate on something else. What ever happened to "I'll call you later"??????":confused3

When my son was in the second grade, a mother came in to read to the class. She had them sitting in a circle around her and her cell phone rings. My son said the rest of the reading time they spent watching her gab on the phone....:confused3 ... and he said it was a basic conversation, not an emergency or information! Unbelievable!
 


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