Scary incident outside of work yesterday - highly emotional day!

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I was too shook up to post about this yesterday; needed a night to sleep off the high emotions first. I’m posting it today because I think there is important information here for parents of children with asthma.

Yesterday morning, there was an incident with a little girl being administered CPR outside the police department. I was witness to the incident, and it shook me up pretty badly.

Here’s what happened:

8:00 am: I was standing at the corner across the street from the building I work in, waiting to cross. Across the street from my building the other direction is City Hall, which houses the police department. The street I was waiting to cross is a three-lane one-way street that is down to just one lane due to construction, so traffic is quite slow right now.

As I was waiting to cross, a car FLEW around the corner, tires screeching the whole way, floored it for ½ block until they were in front of the police station, and then slammed on their brakes, tires squawking once again. The driver runs into the police station, and runs back out a couple seconds later with an officer. The officer opens the rear car door, yanks out a little blonde girl, puts her down on the sidewalk, and starts performing CPR on her.

It was absolutely terrifying to witness. We just stood there a second, in shock as what we were seeing, and then we went inside. I didn’t want to stay and see any more than that. My office windows face the police dept, but there is a skywalk that was blocking the actual car and people, so from my office, we only saw the fire dept and ambulance as they arrived and left (very quickly).

I wasn’t able to put it out of my mind all morning, so at lunch I went over to the police department to see if I could get an update on the child’s condition. I was actually able to talk to the officer that responded to the incident, who I could tell was still just as shook up as I was.

He said the 4 year old girl was having an asthma attack. Initially, it didn’t seem to be an emergency, and the child had never had a “severe” attack before. The father was driving her to the hospital, but she stopped breathing as they approached the intersection near the police department, so that’s how they ended up there.

The officer started CPR, and he said it was very fortunate that the Public Health Department was right across the street, as they were able to provide an epi-pen. The ambulance arrived very quickly, and she is now in the ICU. They are very hopeful that she will make a full recovery. When the officer began CPR, she did still have very shallow breaths and a pulse, so there didn’t seem to be a concern about lack of oxygen.

For me, it was quite scary to witness, and now knowing that it was an asthma attack, it hits home for me. My son has many allergies that he gets allergy shots for. He is considered to have asthma, but has never had an “attack”, and doesn’t use an inhaler at all. I am unprepared to deal with an asthma emergency if one should arise; something I will be taking steps to correct promptly.

I remember a time as a child when my step mother chose to “ride it out” rather than to call an ambulance when my brother had an asthma attack – the worst one he’d ever had. Why did she make that choice? I’m sure you can guess - because they didn’t have health insurance. How scary it is to think back to that day, and know that the outcome may not have had a happy ending.

We never know how serious these things can get – the first “worst one ever” could be the last.
 
I have asthma but haven't had a bad attack in many many years. I always keep my rescue inhaler on hand just in case. Perhaps you could look into one for your son as well?
 
My son has both asthma and allergies and I've never heard that an epi-pen should be used for an asthma attack.
 
Wait, the cop did CPR when kid was breathing?

That makes no sense. I have been an EMT for almost 20 years. You are not doing CPR on a breathing patient.

Anyway, sorry you were shook up. As I said been an EMT for a long time and seen some crazy stuff.

That said, don't be afraid to take a basic first aid course with the local Red Cross. A little training and understanding will really help you out in those situations. Not knowing what to do is what can be the most scary thing.

Ok off my red cross soapbox and hope you are feeling better
 

My son has both asthma and allergies and I've never heard that an epi-pen should be used for an asthma attack.


I've never heard of it either, but if you Google it, you'll find information on it.
 
Wait, the cop did CPR when kid was breathing?

That makes no sense. I have been an EMT for almost 20 years. You are not doing CPR on a breathing patient.

Anyway, sorry you were shook up. As I said been an EMT for a long time and seen some crazy stuff.

That said, don't be afraid to take a basic first aid course with the local Red Cross. A little training and understanding will really help you out in those situations. Not knowing what to do is what can be the most scary thing.

Ok off my red cross soapbox and hope you are feeling better

I guess I only assumed he was doing CPR. Like I said, I didn't stay to watch the horrific scene unfold, and when I spoke with him later, I didn't ask him exactly what he did.

I have been putting off getting the CPR and First Aid training - we can get it free through work, and I've signed up for it several times, but I always end up canceling because I'm too busy to go. But this morning I signed up for the next classes and I will NOT cancel this time!
 
My son has both asthma and allergies and I've never heard that an epi-pen should be used for an asthma attack.

Many years ago (more than I care to admit!) the first thing we did when a tight asthmatic hit the ER was to give a dose of epinephrine. It worked then, and will still work now when you don't have immediate access to an inhaler or nebulizer. :thumbsup2
 
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This is very hard for me to read...my DD has severe asthma and recently just had a bad attack. I hope that child is ok. It is very scary...
 
My son has both asthma and allergies and I've never heard that an epi-pen should be used for an asthma attack.

Epinephrine is often used for acute asthma attacks. Google "asthma epinephrine" and you'll find lots of articles, and even some debate. Depending on the severity of one's symptoms, we sometimes give injections of epinephrine in our office (asthma and allergy clinic) along with the neb treatments.
 
I'm sorry you had to witness that, but glad everything seems to have worked out. I'm glad the officer was able to talk to you and give you an update.

I have a cousin who had severe asthma growing up. I can recall many scary trips to the hospital with him (his mom didn't have a car), some even by ambulance. I also went to school with a girl who sadly died at home after having an asthma attack while swimming. I have asthma, but it's not severe. It's scary when I do have an attack so I can't imagine what those with severe asthma go through during one.

I hope you're feeling better today and I hope the little girl makes a full recovery!
 
My son is 16 and I recall a few times he was injected with Epinephrine (one time two in a row) in the ER and the pediatricians office for a severe asthma attack. Once we used his Epi Pen on him but I wasn't sure if he was not breathing well due to an allergy or asthma attack. At that point I would have tried anything.:sad1:

OP - sorry you witnessed that but I pray the little girl is recovering. It is emotionally draining. :hug:
 
I'm another one who had never heard of an epi pen for an asthma attack (and I have asthma myself.) Luckily, I've never had an attack that serious although a couple of times when I've had to chase after Kody (the escape artist dog), I've been wheezing by the time I got back to the house. My asthma is exercise-induced and also seems to be triggered by cold air. I'm glad this little girl was okay.
 
A 35 year old woman in my community died this summer from an asthma attack while running. She had no ID, was found on the side of the road, and rushed to the hospital. She passed away and left three little children. Scary, sad stuff. It does happen.
 
A 35 year old woman in my community died this summer from an asthma attack while running. She had no ID, was found on the side of the road, and rushed to the hospital. She passed away and left three little children. Scary, sad stuff. It does happen.

That's a year younger than me. Very scary!
 
Wow - this post hits close to home and I really feel for the OP.

2 weeks ago on the last weekend before school starts in our area, my 17 DD had some friends over and then they were heading to a party. The left our house around 10:30 p.m. and by 11:00 p.m. we got a call from DD that she was on her way to the hospital by ambulance with one of her friends who was having a severe asthma attack.

He died before they made it to the hospital and DD witnessed the whole thing. It was awful for her and her other friends who were with him at the time.

I really never knew how severe asthma can be and how scary for those parents who have kids with it.
 
A 35 year old woman in my community died this summer from an asthma attack while running. She had no ID, was found on the side of the road, and rushed to the hospital. She passed away and left three little children. Scary, sad stuff. It does happen.

Scary stuff indeed. We also had a lady in my town die about 3 years ago from a severe asthma attack. She also left 3 kids. I didn't realize that you can die from asthma. I am so thankful we have never had to deal with this. DH had asthma as a child but grew out of it, I guess.

OP, I understand how you feel, it is so shocking to come in contact with such situations, especially with children. It never quite leaves you, even if you aren't directly involved.

When DS was 2 he had his tonsils removed. We were sitting in the pediatrics ward the next day while he recovered and the baby in the next bed had a very serious issue - there were several doctors working on her for a long time and she ended up being air lifted to the Children's Hospital in Vancouver. The staff was so professional and amazing, I have the greatest respect for doctors and nurses and what they deal with. I just sat there holding DS very close hearing everthing that was going on - it was horrible. The doctor came and apologized to me for all the commotion! I just wanted to cry. I never did find out what happened to the baby.

Hope the little girl recovers, and that you are feeling better.
 
My son has both asthma and allergies and I've never heard that an epi-pen should be used for an asthma attack.

Epi pens are used when allergic reactions close up the airways. All an asthma attack is, is a reaction that closes up the airways. Epipen works on either emergency.
 

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