Say what you really want to say! NO FLAMES ALLOWED

[wvrevy]

There is politically incorrect and then there is racist and homophobic.

Yes, but then you are referring to a person that labels an entire state - roughly 1.5 million people - "trash" in an attempt to be funny. I think that expecting rational debate might be asking a bit much.

 

[oregonmousefan]

What I really want to say:

I believe that racist people from North Carolina should not be allowed to get married or have children. I also believe that if they get pregnant they should be forced to have abortions.

 

[RickinNYC]

What I really want to say:

I believe that racist people from North Carolina should not be allowed to get married or have children. I also believe that if they get pregnant they should be forced to have abortions.

Now THAT was politically incorrect WITHOUT being racist or homophobic.

 

[JoeEpcotRocks]

There is politically incorrect and then there is racist and homophobic.

I can't wait to hear the difference.

 

[Miss Jasmine]

Yes, but then you are referring to a person that labels an entire state - roughly 1.5 million people - "trash" in an attempt to be funny. I think that expecting rational debate might be asking a bit much.

Yeah, yeah I know. It's like beating my head against the wall.

 

[snoopy]

How am I forcing my preferences on someone else? Is anyone here being forced to believe the same way I am? I have no way to even do or enforce that. But I can state my opinions, politically incorrect as others might think they are, which seemed to be the basis for this thread, at least I remembered that's how it started.

I actually was referring to the person who said abortions should be illegal. But if you are a person who wishes to take away a freedom of automony women have enjoyed for 30 years, then consider yourself spoken to.

 

[Tasha+Scott]

I hate that the same few people always try to start debate or controversy on threads. If they have a differing opinion than yours you'd better believe they are going to insult you and try to tear you to shreds.

I love that I have been on the DIS long enough now to realize who does that and since I expect it from them I no longer let it get to me.

I love these new smilies-- ug: aw:

I love that we get to go back to Florida to see my family, go to WDW, go to the beach, possibly go to US and IOA (if my brother comes w/us) in a little over 8 months!

I am sad that dh strained his back at work but is too stubborn to take off the rest of the day and recuperate, even though he could if he wanted to.

I am glad that he has a strong work ethic though.

I am amazed at how fast dd is growing and that 3 months just flew right by!

I am annoyed that my preg. SIL thinks that just b/c I am a SAHM that I would be willing to keep her kids for her.

I find it humorous that the same SIL who was such a breastfeeding advocate and tried to make me feel guilty for bottlefeeding has now decided she won't be breastfeeding her next one.

I am thrilled that dh and I were able to take dd with us when we wanted to enjoy an evening out this weekend and she was the best-behaved baby! It was so nice to go out and enjoy ourselves w/a pleasant baby in tow and not a screaming one.

It really annoys me when people ask how dd sleeps at night and when I say she sleeps through the night now then suddenly I am bragging that I have the perfect baby. You asked! Don't ask if you don't want to know! She is not the perfect baby, just a great sleeper which we are thankful for!

Finally I can not say enough how much I love my supportive dh! He helps cook and clean and works hard so that I can stay home and be the caregiver to our child whom we love more than life itself. I feel really blessed to have such an amazing family!

 

[txgirl]

What does it matter if someone really, really believes abortion is wrong? They are free to not have one. You can really, really believe that white people shouldn't marry black people, or that gay people shouldn't raise children, or any number of other things that can't be proven or disproven and have no social consensus. And you can believe those things with all sincerity. Maybe you believe with all your heart that gay marriage will be the downfall of civilization. But, even if your heart is genuinely free of hatred (even full of love) towards gays, or blacks, or women, do you really believe you should be able to force your preferences on someone else?

I suppose I do believe our preferences are forced upon others when there are innocent babies involved. Saying that since I believe abortion is wrong, then "I am free to not have one" does not obsolve the issue of life being ended. This debate always comes to a dead end when the pro-choicer does not believe that the mother is carrying a baby but rather a fetus. I believe that when there is a heart beating inside of a tiny human with fingernails and toenails and hair on their head that "fetus" is a baby and when you make a "choice" to abort you are choosing death for something that was alive. Don't we force our preferences when babies are born and then put into trash cans or do we say, "I think that is wrong but still-none of my business?" I challenge Pro-choicers to research what they support. Know what is involved. Understand what a developing baby is capable of-including pain sensation. Forcing preference would be saying, hey you can't have sex with that guy or hey you can't use that form of birth control. I am pro-life because I believe that it is life at stake. I am not ignorant of the mother or her situation-it is beside the point. The answer to her "problem" or pregnancy should not be murder. My mother was 17 years old when she had me over 33 years ago and Roe vs Wade had not yet happened. There is no doubt my mother would have aborted because of the family situation and her age. She has told me so. She has told me that she was grateful that it was not a choice. If people really understood the process in which a "choice" takes place they would most likely be horrified and disturbed. We sweep this topic under the rug.

I love your last sentence because it totally supports my stance. You shouldn't be able to "force" your preferences on someone else. Marriage is (as of today, August 8 2005) between man and woman. Changing that would be forcing a lifestyle preference onto someone else, right?

 

[oregonmousefan]

Hon...don't get me started on the fags. ;-)

 

[Miss Jasmine]

I love your last sentence because it totally supports my stance. You shouldn't be able to "force" your preferences on someone else. Marriage is (as of today, August 8 2005) between man and woman. Changing that would be forcing a lifestyle preference onto someone else, right?

No, no one is forcing you to marry another woman.

 

[cardaway]

It bothers me that so many can't tell the difference between being intolerant of intolerance and just being intolerant.

Case in point, people claiming other people are intolerant of people who use religion as a basis to discriminate against gays. They'll claim you are intolerant of their religious views.

Hello! It's just an intolerance of your intolerant views, nothing more nothing less.

 

[pixiedust23]

Hey guys nothing personal but it would be super if people could stop debating other peoples posts. This has been a lovely outlet for many people and the continual discussion/debate about the posts is going to get this thread closed down fast!


Thanks!

 

[RickinNYC]

Marriage is (as of today, August 8 2005) between man and woman. Changing that would be forcing a lifestyle preference onto someone else, right?

Ummm, no. Changing it to allow gay couples to marry would in no way impact your life whatsoever, nor would it be forcing a lifestyle choice onto you. That is, unless I chose to invite you to my wedding.

 

[RickinNYC]

Hey guys nothing personal but it would be super if people could stop debating other peoples posts. This has been a lovely outlet for many people and the continual discussion/debate about the posts is going to get this thread closed down fast!Thanks!

Actually, let me address that. I think this thread is absolutely repulsive because it allows individuals to post their thoughts on racism, homophobia, and just about every "hate" one can think of, and to do so without reprisal. So if you don't want to debate, or put something up for discussion, then don't post it at all.

Flame if you want.

 

[sodaseller]

Actually, let me address that. I think this thread is absolutely repulsive because it allows individuals to post their thoughts on racism, homophobia, and just about every "hate" one can think of, and to do so without reprisal. So if you don't want to debate, or put something up for discussion, then don't post it at all.

Flame if you want.

id without superego

 

[ncgolfer]

Rick your flaming enough for all of us!!

 

[lyeag]

Some of this thread has also been just plain old venting... and some has been what people are thankful for. If you want to debate, this isn't the place.

 

[4cruisin]

I love your last sentence because it totally supports my stance. You shouldn't be able to "force" your preferences on someone else. Marriage is (as of today, August 8 2005) between man and woman. Changing that would be forcing a lifestyle preference onto someone else, right?

Geez, I stayed out of this thread for as long as I could but gay marriage is legal in Massachusetts.

Allowing gay marriage does not force a lifestyle preference onto anyone as far as I'm concerned. I am a woman happily married to a man and I have no issues with gays having the same rights as I do.

No flames, just a point being made about gay marriage in Massachusetts.

 

[Miss Jasmine]

Oh one other thought, I adore RickinNYC and can't wait for the day that he and Joe can wed (and have it accepted in NY or wherever they may live).

 

[txgirl]

What if I start every sentence with, "I think" or
"I wish" or
"I hate" or
"I love"....