SAP+ ?

I haven’t seen them…. now I am very intrigued!


Thanks. I like the green tile. I'll be interested to see the final product. I've never had a strong desire to stay there. Though I would really like the 2nd bathroom in the 1-bedroom villa! But the walk to the MK seems kind of long. And I'm not much of a 'tall building' kind of gal.
 
Thanks. I like the green tile. I'll be interested to see the final product. I've never had a strong desire to stay there. Though I would really like the 2nd bathroom in the 1-bedroom villa! But the walk to the MK seems kind of long. And I'm not much of a 'tall building' kind of gal.
It’s not long. And because you are looking up at the MK the whole time the adrenaline and excitement make it feel even shorter. BUT, where it feels the shortest is on the walk home from the park….. as you watch everyone else peel off for the monorail at the Contemporary.
 

Is that two different one bedrooms (or studios) in the top photo? I see a Space Mountain themed murphy bed and a castle one. I'm loving the Space Mountain picture and glad to see they chose some variety in the artwork, although now I'll want a Space Mountain room, and not a castle. 🤣
It would either be a 1 or 2 bedroom.

BLT living rooms do not have a balcony themselves although you can access the master bedroom's balcony from the living room
 
It would either be a 1 or 2 bedroom.

BLT living rooms do not have a balcony themselves although you can access the master bedroom's balcony from the living room
Thanks! We own at BLT (bought them mainly for SAP, after months of reading the boards) but have yet to stay there. Excited for our first post refurb trip.
 
Ooph, I have just learned something quite valuable. SSR is not my jam!

The room feels cheap, I’m sorry, concrete semi outdoor hallways… wut!? I thought these units were recently renovated. Everything is peeling, the Murphy sofa is stained something fierce. I also got the furthest possible room so have enjoyed a lovely end to end property stroll with my luggage. The lobby might as well be on harbour blvd and I’m staying at VDH.

I think SAP+ by definition means you would want home resort priority. SSR is definitely not it for me… don’t be cheap and pay the extra point for preferred.

Swinging back around to this, probably 60% of my complaints are being at the Carousel. Which really feels like a late phase, not baked satellite. I know for next time I guess.

The resort is largely lovely to wander around, but it feels like the original promise of DVC. Bring a car, it’s your home, have a big unit, etc. I’m a tower lover.
 
It is no grand cal but it is not a bad walk at all and then at the end of the night if you don't care to walk back it is the first stop when leaving the monorail.
I just had to point out that to us, the walk from the monorail station in CR to our room in BLT (we were on the north end) seemed just as far as the walk from MK! The only benefit to riding the monorail seemed to be if you were able to get a seat on the monorail and rest your legs for that short trip.
 
The money is in fact “gone”. The only thing you “own” is an obligation to pay unknown maintenance fees in the future and the right to stay in a location or set of locations for a given number of years.

Having the ability to list it for sale in the future before that expiration date does not change that fact.

Nor does the price you initially paid for it or the historical price others have paid have any bearing whatsoever on what you may be able to sell it for in the future.

Maybe your money is gone, but mine isn't. I plan to hold maybe a decade-ish, so resale matters to me.

Resale value is where DVC and SSR in particular shine. It's absolutely a feature. It's a feature of DVC, but it's particularly a feature of SSR. Without resale value, DVC would be one of those other timeshare systems, which I would never touch.

I can sell when I'm done for more or less what I paid. My original math from 10 years ago had a guess of 50% of my purchase price, and I'd still be happy with that. That would be ~$50 SSR, which is not happening anytime soon.
 
Maybe your money is gone, but mine isn't. I plan to hold maybe a decade-ish, so resale matters to me.

Resale value is where DVC and SSR in particular shine. It's absolutely a feature. It's a feature of DVC, but it's particularly a feature of SSR. Without resale value, DVC would be one of those other timeshare systems, which I would never touch.

I can sell when I'm done for more or less what I paid. My original math from 10 years ago had a guess of 50% of my purchase price, and I'd still be happy with that. That would be ~$50 SSR, which is not happening anytime soon.
Your money is gone, having the ability to potentially resell it doesn’t change that.

Yes, DVC has historically had some residual value, but some business decisions by Disney, acts of God, political turmoil, massive health event where they can’t create a vaccine quickly, etc. could materially change that value in a moment.

I’m not saying that is a likely scenario, but your money is in fact gone when you purchase it.
 
Your money is gone, having the ability to potentially resell it doesn’t change that.

Yes, DVC has historically had some residual value, but some business decisions by Disney, acts of God, political turmoil, massive health event where they can’t create a vaccine quickly, etc. could materially change that value in a moment.

I’m not saying that is a likely scenario, but your money is in fact gone when you purchase it.
Agree with all of this 100% and I would specifically add that the combination of restricting resale access (especially after 2040) and an actual crackdown on commercial renting (announced but not yet enforced) could dramatically change the valuation landscape over the next decade or two. I don’t think anybody should buy with the assumption resorts will hold value as well as they did prior to restrictions.
 
Your money is gone, having the ability to potentially resell it doesn’t change that.

Yes, DVC has historically had some residual value, but some business decisions by Disney, acts of God, political turmoil, massive health event where they can’t create a vaccine quickly, etc. could materially change that value in a moment.

I’m not saying that is a likely scenario, but your money is in fact gone when you purchase it.
I have some recent personal experience with this. We are now in the market for a new house and if had that 100k i spent on DVC it would be much easier to qualify etc. I also have to explain to the lender where that 100k went. So I for sure am in the boat of that money is gone. I can sell and recoup but it takes weeks/months so any money to be gotten back is for sure not liquid.
 
I have some recent personal experience with this. We are now in the market for a new house and if had that 100k i spent on DVC it would be much easier to qualify etc. I also have to explain to the lender where that 100k went. So I for sure am in the boat of that money is gone. I can sell and recoup but it takes weeks/months so any money to be gotten back is for sure not liquid.
I’m sure your spouse isn’t thrilled with that… yikes!

For what it’s worth, I think you have built a very nice DVC portfolio!
 
I’m sure your spouse isn’t thrilled with that… yikes!

For what it’s worth, I think you have built a very nice DVC portfolio!
He was just like we agreed we weren’t moving if we bought DVC. Just goes to show you life can change on a whim. I offered to sell CCV and he said no. He is honestly more unhappy with giving up our current interest rate to move and we also live in a very expensive state.
 















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