San Diego Cruises 2021

[wdwparksfan]

Man, that's frustrating. Hope you can resolve it soon.

Hello, I just want to give an update. I'm sorry to scare everyone about the EBPC, I was already on edge about it being cancelled to begin with but it was a different issue that got my reservation cancelled. After 2 and a half hours of being on the phone with DCL they believe that when I cancelled a 4 night cruise in October a week ago that accounting accidentally cancelled my EBPC cruise as well while issuing my refund of future cruise credits. I have been using future cruise credits on a couple of different cruises. The issue is still not resolved and I don't know if I'll get my EBPC reservation back. I was told a supervisor will call me back later this week with options. The CM I talked to was extremely apologetic and nice and said she felt terrible that this happened and thanked me for my patience. I will post again when I hear back.

 

[Intr3pid]

I"m confused. Are you saying that the only reason the 2021 EBPC hasn't been canceled is because they don't know what they're doing in the Fall of 2022?

Not the reason - but the relation. The two are interrelated. If Wonder is staying on the west coast this winter, it's not doing any of the two transits.

Next fall, after Wish joins the fleet, there will already be four ships in the east/gulf. Wonder may not do any transit at all next year. Until they decide Wonder's winter plans, they won't officially cancel.

 

[iannovich]

Not the reason - but the relation. The two are interrelated. If Wonder is staying on the west coast this winter, it's not doing any of the two transits.

Next fall, after Wish joins the fleet, there will already be four ships in the east/gulf. Wonder may not do any transit at all next year.

I see. Just wanted to be sure I understood.

I don't think they're so interrelated that the Wonder wouldn't go back through the Canal this fall based on what they're thinking of doing next fall. There hasn't been any indication that she'd stay on the West Coast after the 2021 Baja sailings are done.

I do think she really might stay on the West Coast next year. But this year she has sailings scheduled from the Gulf from November to March and then the Westbound PC to come back over. That's way too much money for Disney to give up. They really don't want to give out any more 125% FCCs. My only uncertainty is whether or not they'll sail the scheduled EBPC in November, or sail her back through the Panama Canal empty in November because they don't want to risk a long voyage or can't meet Distant Foreign Port requirements.

 

[Intr3pid]

Most of the November and all of the December onwards sailings are still outside of the PIF dates, so they don't owe any 25%+ FCC at this point. They have about 20 days before the east coastal cruises enter the PIF dates.

What has forced their hand is the virus spread in Florida/south. Cruising demand out of Florida will remain soft until the holidays. Carnival, RCL, and NCL have all committed to the west coast.

The PC transit cruises are currently fraught with a long list of risks and logistical challenges. And that's when they haven't even gotten a 7-nighter out of the port.

 

[gismo1554]

EBPC should have been RIP for a while now. The reason they haven't cancelled it yet is because they haven't finalized all of Wonder's fall 2022 itineraries. They also need to simultaneously make a decision on the 'use by' date of the FCCs that this cancellation would unleash. No room on WBPC (we are GTY too).

Yeah I wish they would release some info about whats happening for fall 2022 and the restricted September 2022 deadline for FCC is annoying. At the moment I have cruises booked for September that I wouldn't overly want to do but as a back up for the EBPC as the WBPC dates didn't work for me (was originally booked on but cancelled when I spotted the dates issue).

 

[_auroraborealis_]

Honestly, I could see Wonder doing more than one PC round trip winter 2022 if they can get the port rights to schedule it.

 

[Tasmen]

Honestly, I could see Wonder doing more than one PC round trip winter 2022 if they can get the port rights to schedule it.

Same. I'm going to be surprised if they do such a change until 2022. Now that said, I would be over the moon to have the Wonder permanently on the West Coast. I might actually get to feel like what it is like to live in Florida and be able to go on a Disney cruise fairly easily last minute.

 

[iannovich]

Same. I'm going to be surprised if they do such a change until 2022. Now that said, I would be over the moon to have the Wonder permanently on the West Coast. I might actually get to feel like what it is like to live in Florida and be able to go on a Disney cruise fairly easily last minute.

Wouldn't it be great to open up the Special Offers page and see "California Residents Can Save Up to 30% on Select Pacific Cruises"?

 

[KVH]

Meh. I guess I wouldn't mind the boat here fulltime but, unlike sailing out of PC or Miami, they have a limited number of destinations available. That tempers my enthusiasm. Going repeatedly to CC is much more appealing than a bunch of loops to Cabo.

 

[Justin P Brodley]

They could always mix it up a bit more, right now they pretty much exclusively hit Cabo, Ensenada and sometimes they'll have the 7 days with Mazatlan and Puerto Vallarta. They could homeport out of SF and do a 10 day that looks similar to the 7 days + Manzanilla. You could more of the Baja Peninsula and Sea of Cortez by adding La Paz, Loreto. You could do west coast cruises and do more stops along the way than they currently do on the repositioning cruise. More sailings to Hawaii is always a plus in my book as I would love to do that cruise but they're difficult to book due to limited availability and not having a high enough status yet.

 

[iannovich]

They could also spice things up by adding special themes. We already have Halloween on the High Seas, but only the EBPC is a MerryTime... so they could add some more MerryTimes, maybe a Star Wars or Marvel, or something 'new and local' with "Coco Day at Sea" Dia De Los Muerto's themed itineraries.

 

[Sykes]

I'd absolutely love more Pacific Coast cruises. I'm honestly not sure what it is, but it's really fun to roll up to US cities in a cruise ship for a day trip.

 

[Lillebelle]

Same. I'm going to be surprised if they do such a change until 2022. Now that said, I would be over the moon to have the Wonder permanently on the West Coast. I might actually get to feel like what it is like to live in Florida and be able to go on a Disney cruise fairly easily last minute.

1000 times this. I would love it if they offered more variety (as I said in another thread -- Disney should get a Pacific private island!) but even if all they can do is more Mexico, it would be great to be able to do cruises without having to do a cross-country flight with small children. We're definitely more in the camp that cares about just being on the ship vs where the ship goes, so being able to get to the ship easily more often would be a huge plus for us.

 

[PrincessShmoo]

Disney should get a Pacific private island!

Unlike the Caribbean there just aren't that many private islands to choose from. And most of them are rocky and steep, not flat like the Caribbean ones.

 

[Chemist]

Unlike the Caribbean there just aren't that many private islands to choose from. And most of them are rocky and steep, not flat like the Caribbean ones.

And the Pacific on the west coast is COLD.

 

[Justin P Brodley]

Unlike the Caribbean there just aren't that many private islands to choose from. And most of them are rocky and steep, not flat like the Caribbean ones.

Too bad Isla Nubar isn't a real place and Disney doesn't own that IP. :-D

 

[Ravenclaw78]

Disney can just buy Oahu, can't they? ;-)

 

[putitonthecard@roadrunner]

Eastbound Panama Canal and Westbound Panama Canal

thank you

Eastbound Panama Canal and Westbound Panama Canal

Thank you

And the Pacific on the west coast is COLD.

Thats why Disney sells jackets.

 

[JWelch62]

For those who have checked in, what is the current earliest PAT? Because we are in Concierge we have been told to arrive any time, but it does not say what the earliest arrival time is.

 

[Tasmen]

I've heard people say they were getting 11:45am as the earlier time for our 9/24 sailing.