DIS Dads Rust Belt Road Trip (2 UPDATES--1/18)

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Now then, if you were at Patriots’ Point in the early to late 80s or early 90s, then the other ship that you got to get a good look at was most likely a highly decorated US Destroyer named USS Laffey (DD-724)

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:eek: :scared1: That's the one! I don't recall the freighter though.
 
Mark,
Sorry for hijacking your TR again but…

:eek: :scared1: That's the one! I don't recall the freighter though.

OK, Savannaha must have left before you got there. That leaves only one other ship that I can think of which has spent time at Patriots Point in the early 90s: USCGC Ingham

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Mark,
Sorry for hijacking your TR again but…



OK, Savannaha must have left before you got there. That leaves only one other ship that I can think of which has spent time at Patriots Point in the early 90s: USCGC Ingham

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No, I'm sure Laffey was the one I was thinking of. Maybe we didn't actually go on it, maybe just walked by it:confused3, but I'm positive that was the ship I was thinking of. If the Savannah or the Ingham were there at that point in time, I don't recall them. I know they had the boat tour you speak of and maybe some other things to see... I just remember the sub, carrier and destroyer.:confused3

I wonder if my mom has pictures from that trip somewhere...
 
OK, Mark…
I’ll let you have your TR back now. Sorry about that, but I couldn’t resist.

Hey, no problem. I would venture to guess that most of my readers are finding your posts more interesting anyway. :rotfl2:

You might be interested to know that my family may be taking that Fort Sumter boat ride next summer...
 

Hey, no problem. I would venture to guess that most of my readers are finding your posts more interesting anyway. :rotfl2:

Doubtful… :rolleyes1



You might be interested to know that my family may be taking that Fort Sumter boat ride next summer...

That's interesting… That's v-e-r-y interesting. pirate:

You thinking about an Antebellum Road Trip next summer or are y’all just heading to Hilton Head and taking in the surrounding sites?

Depending on when you start out on that little sojourn, I might be able to get down that way just long enough to completely ruin one of your evenings.
 
That's interesting… That's v-e-r-y interesting. pirate:

You thinking about an Antebellum Road Trip next summer or are y’all just heading to Hilton Head and taking in the surrounding sites?

Depending on when you start out on that little sojourn, I might be able to get down that way just long enough to completely ruin one of your evenings.

Still in the planning stages, but we were invited by friends to spend a week with them at Pawleys Island next July. We thought that sounded like fun and jumped on board. Since we're the kind of family that gets antsy after sitting in one place for too long, we thought a day trip to Charleston might be in order some time in the middle of the week. I'll PM you with the dates.

If everything works out money-wise, we're going to swing down further south for a surprise (to the kids) WDW component of the trip as well. :woohoo:
 
Still in the planning stages, but we were invited by friends to spend a week with them at Pawleys Island next July. We thought that sounded like fun and jumped on board. Since we're the kind of family that gets antsy after sitting in one place for too long, we thought a day trip to Charleston might be in order some time in the middle of the week. I'll PM you with the dates.

If everything works out money-wise, we're going to swing down further south for a surprise (to the kids) WDW component of the trip as well. :woohoo:
Well, since it is still in the planning stages, I won't bring out the dancing feds for you yet, but that looks like an awesome plan! :thumbsup2
 
Still in the planning stages, but we were invited by friends to spend a week with them at Pawleys Island next July. We thought that sounded like fun and jumped on board. Since we're the kind of family that gets antsy after sitting in one place for too long, we thought a day trip to Charleston might be in order some time in the middle of the week. I'll PM you with the dates.

If everything works out money-wise, we're going to swing down further south for a surprise (to the kids) WDW component of the trip as well. :woohoo:

Pawleys is gorgeous. You should enjoy it mightily.
:beach:

My dad has a place in Garden City just barely a half hour north of where y’all are headed. Depending on exactly when in July you head out, (and what my brother’s family has planned for that time frame) I might be able to get over there.

As for the “surprise”, I hope y’all can pull it off. At the moment it’s looking like 2012 will be the first year in many that we won’t be heading to you-know-where.
 
Still in the planning stages, but we were invited by friends to spend a week with them at Pawleys Island next July. We thought that sounded like fun and jumped on board. Since we're the kind of family that gets antsy after sitting in one place for too long, we thought a day trip to Charleston might be in order some time in the middle of the week. I'll PM you with the dates.

If everything works out money-wise, we're going to swing down further south for a surprise (to the kids) WDW component of the trip as well. :woohoo:

I second the " You will love Pawley's Island" Good luck on puuling off the surprise and you will enjoya side trip to Charleston too. :thumbsup2
 
OK.....just a heads up - I've been given inside information that a new installment is coming today! At lunch! And I was also given directions to comment before that happened. So here it goes....



Yes, it really just gave us an extra hour to work with, but it sounds better when you say you're time-traveling. Mrs. Knowitall will have to comment and explain when exactly she got sick of hearing this joke on the trip, since we crossed the time zone line a few times.

Actually, I don't think I tired of it....believe it or not. I think I made just as many BACK.....to the Future!!! jokes as the Captain did! Must be why get along so well with each other. :hug::love2:



Mrs. Knowitall was thrilled to see it in person, having just finished reading The Devil in the White City, which was a book detailing the story of the Exposition. I didn't get a chance to read it, but she says it was a fantastic story, and that the fair was full of incredible engineering, architectural and artistic feats by some of the leading minds of the time. Also, there was a serial killer in there somewhere. :eek: Hopefully he wasn't still hanging around.

Excellent, excellent read. Highly recommended. Simply amazing all the "state of the art" stuff that happened there. Go get it from the library. :thumbsup2



Sometimes the early bird only gets a worm, but sometimes he scores and gets the cheap parking spot! :woohoo:

:banana:


At this point, I need to stop and praise Mrs. Knowitall for her bargain shopping. A few months earlier, she had received a groupon offer for a year's membership at the Delaware Natural History Museum--$27 for the year. This museum is--how can I say this delicately?--crappy. It's basically a few rooms with some taxidermied (is that a word?) animals in display cases. You'd get more value from $27 worth of whoopie cushions.

However, Julie read the small print. And the small print said that this membership offered reciprocal membership to science museums all over the nation...including the Science & Industry Museum in Chicago. So, she bought the membership for the express purpose if using it there and saving us about $50 on the admission. And yes, I married way, way out of my league. :love:

Great job Julie on the membership.

Julie, congrats on the great discount. Mark, congrats too. ;)

Great job, Juile, and I think that point has been well established by now, Mark.:lmao:

Nice score, Julie!:thumbsup2

If she’s anything like my lovely, she needs praising just for not kicking you out of the house.

Great update Captain and kudos to Mrs. Knowitall on the museum passes. :thumbsup2


:thumbsup2 Thanks everyone! I love a good bargain!



I've been there! Once. :rolleyes1

:worried:I'm sorry.:guilty:


We found another room playing off the energy theme to show different ways of producing energy, or detailing potential vs. kinetic energy. The central display was a Rube Goldberg-type device that used various mechanics to shoot billiard balls through all sorts of channels and chutes. It was cooler than it sounds from my description. Either that, or I'm just a big nerd.

It was very, VERY cool!



The boys didn't like the loud noises it made, but Julie, Sarah and I thought it was the coolest thing ever. Julie wanted one to use at home, although I'm not entirely sure what purpose she had in mind.

hmm....I wonder....:idea:



Your van has a Flux Capacitor? Cool!

Flux Capacitor? Yes.
Catalytic Converter? No.



I like this picture a lot.
Wonder… amazement… deep thought… the joy of discovery…
and all in the same image.

Nice work!

I LOVE this one too!




I think if we lived in Chicago, our kids would be clamoring for a trip to the MSI every weekend. Great museum.

Yeah....us big kids would want to go too!



Doing blue jeans commercials, I guess. I can't remember the last time I saw a new episode of Dirty Jobs.

Seriously! And the episodes last season weren't really that great.



I haven't told Scotty that yet. Mostly because I don't know if it works. Maybe Mrs. Knowitall can chime in.

huh? What? I don't know.....Scotty seems to be able to hold his own with the girls.



You thinking about an Antebellum Road Trip next summer or are y’all just heading to Hilton Head and taking in the surrounding sites?

Depending on when you start out on that little sojourn, I might be able to get down that way just long enough to completely ruin one of your evenings.

Absolutely you can join us! If we're down there. And you can stand the thought of being in the room with us.



AND SNEAK PEAK......there might be a guest reporter for an upcoming installment! Stay tuned! popcorn::
 
Well, since it is still in the planning stages, I won't bring out the dancing feds for you yet, but that looks like an awesome plan! :thumbsup2

Thanks! Hopefully it will turn out to be a good one. I'll probably talk more about it at the end of this TR.

Pawleys is gorgeous. You should enjoy it mightily.
:beach:

My dad has a place in Garden City just barely a half hour north of where y’all are headed. Depending on exactly when in July you head out, (and what my brother’s family has planned for that time frame) I might be able to get over there.

As for the “surprise”, I hope y’all can pull it off. At the moment it’s looking like 2012 will be the first year in many that we won’t be heading to you-know-where.

I second the " You will love Pawley's Island" Good luck on puuling off the surprise and you will enjoya side trip to Charleston too. :thumbsup2

My friend is originally from near Spartanburg and his family has a place in Pawleys. He wanted to show off the "arrogantly shabby" vibe of the place. We've vacationed in North Myrtle Beach before, so this will be a chance to slide down south and get a feel for that end of the Grand Strand.

As far as Disney goes, we were thinking, "Well, we're already going to be in SC. Why not drive a little further?" We don't have the budget to stay a full week (and in July, I probably wouldn't want to). But we thought it would be fun to pop in for a couple of days just to add a little extra magic.
 
OK.....just a heads up - I've been given inside information that a new installment is coming today! At lunch! And I was also given directions to comment before that happened. So here it goes....

Wait, you're following MY directions?! :eek:

Actually, I don't think I tired of it....believe it or not. I think I made just as many BACK.....to the Future!!! jokes as the Captain did! Must be why get along so well with each other. :hug::love2:

:woohoo::cool1::yay::banana:

Let the stupid jokes keep on coming!

Excellent, excellent read. Highly recommended. Simply amazing all the "state of the art" stuff that happened there. Go get it from the library. :thumbsup2

But you returned it already.

Flux Capacitor? Yes.
Catalytic Converter? No.

Et tu, Julie? :sad2:

Seriously! And the episodes last season weren't really that great.

I'd still much rather watch Dirty Jobs tonight than Simon Cowell's Brand New American Idol Show That Isn't American Idol Even Though It's Exactly Like American Idol.

Absolutely you can join us! If we're down there. And you can stand the thought of being in the room with us.

That's a big hurdle. Barry and Kathy are still trying to wash the stink off.

AND SNEAK PEAK......there might be a guest reporter for an upcoming installment! Stay tuned! popcorn::

Who's that? Am I being fired from my own TR? :confused3
 
OK.....just a heads up - I've been given inside information that a new installment is coming today! At lunch! And I was also given directions to comment before that happened. So here it goes....
Wow, what time is lunch over there? :confused3 :rotfl2:



Et tu, Julie? :sad2:
:woohoo::woohoo:


That's a big hurdle. Barry and Kathy are still trying to wash the stink off.
Nah, it came off pretty easy. Just one or two baths in turpentine and I could barely smell it anymore. :thumbsup2
 
Our lunch was a tasty course of PB&J and cheese balls. No points for guessing that. Sorry.

With full stomachs, we set out to explore the rest of the museum. We skipped a couple of big exhibits--one by choice, one by poor planning. The one we skipped by choice was Body Worlds, which cost extra. This is the one where they take actual people's dead bodies and remove the skin or various layers of tissue, and then pose them playing poker or something. I'm sure some people think it's fascinating, but I find it really weird and creepy, and I didn't have any desire to see it. I'm guessing my kids wouldn't have done well with that, either.

The other exhibit was the Coal Mine, and here...well, I just blew it. This is one of the most famous exhibits in the museum--you enter through an elevator made to look like a coal shaft and then get a ride in a mine car as you learn about mining operations. It's really well done, and I was looking forward to seeing it again. Unfortunately, doing the sub tour in the morning meant that by the time we were able to get to the Coal Mine, the line was a 45-minute wait. And there are no Fast Passes. With limited time to explore the museum, we didn't want to give up that time.

So, we'll just have to come back to Chicago to see it.

We found a cantilevered United airlines jet on one floor, and Dave took the opportunity to see one of the parts you don't normally get to check out up close.

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One floor below us was one of the largest model train systems in the world, depicting the journey of goods by rail from Chicago to Seattle. The level of detail in the model was amazing, and the scale was mind-boggling. It took 40 workers over a year to build it.

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There were a lot of details to catch your eye. The Chicago model even had subway trains running "underground", and an elevated train in the downtown area. One spot in the mountains had a button kids could push to detonate a rock pile and help build a tunnel. Scotty kept pushing this one over and over. I was amazed that one of my sons would actually find enjoyment in blowing things up.

Nearby was Craig Breedlove's Spirit of America rocket car, which at one point held the record for land-speed at 526 mph. :scared1: It also set a world record for the World's Longest Skid Mark (no, not that kind of skid mark. Get your mind out of the gutter).

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We wandered into the massive Science of Storms exhibit next. There was a huge wind tunnel forming a funnel cloud for demonstrations, a tumbling display showing the fluid mechanics of avalanches, and a wave pool that caused Scotty to start pantomiming swimming for some reason. The exhibits looked very cool, but we didn't spend a ton of time in there because it was the most crowded room by far.

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Nearby was a hall that housed a model street showing Chicago in 1893 (the year of the Columbian Exposition that created the building). It was mostly a static display, but the detail was almost as flawless as Main Street in WDW. Except not as well-lit.

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We found a baby chick hatchery in another room. All together now:

Awwwwwww...

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While we had done the sub tour, Tom and Cathy had taken their kids to see a demonstration of liquid nitrogen. They came back raving about it and begging us to go see the next one. So we went off to find the demonstration room, stopping to fool around in a mirror maze:

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And a room with a colored-bubbly display wall. I don't know what the purpose of it was, but it looked cool. If any of you are renovating your house and want to take on a more contemporary style, maybe you can incorporate this wall. (extra charge for the kids)

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The liquid nitrogen demonstration ended up being a lot of fun. It was done with a birthday party theme. First, we needed balloons. The scientists had brought some with her, already inflated and packed in liquid nitrogen. She had a helper take them out for the party. As you can see, they were as flat as the Kansas City Chiefs' offense:

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As they were placed on the table and heated back to room temperature, the air inside expanded and inflated the balloons perfectly. Except for the couple that popped. Next, they poured out some liquid nitrogen so we could see it boiling at room temperature. They attached noise-makers on a bottle in order to make our party noises (less impressive than the balloons). Finally, we needed ice cream. In a large bowl, the scientist poured a mixture of milk and sugar. Then she had her helpers dump the liquid nitrogen on it. Instant ice cream! Every kid got a sample. Sarah proclaimed it "not bad".

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It was approaching late afternoon, and we still had an EPIC DIS MEET® on the schedule. Tom and Cathy bid farewell and headed back to South Bend. We acted like typical Disney visitors and exited through the gift shop.

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We ended up finding a few Christmas presents there. I fell for this t-shirt, the perfect nerdy souvenir:

Chicago t-shirt

On the way out, we checked out the Pioneer Zephyr, one of the first diesel-electric trains (from 1934). Sarah and Scotty got into a litte bit of trouble.

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Good thing Dave was there to rescue them.

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If you're ever in Chicago, go to the Museum of Science and Industry. You can easily spend a day there, and it's hands-down the best science museum we've ever seen. I severely underestimated the amount of time we'd need to see it. We'd planned on doing a river boat tour of the city as well, but there was no way we were going to have time for it. We'll just have to come back to try it again.

Why couldn't we do the boat tour? Because it was time to head downtown for our first EPIC DIS MEET® of the trip. We were about to meet...

...the FreezinRafiki family.

Barry and I had "met", of course through the DIS Dads club and got to know each other there and on Facebook. And by "got to know each other", I of course mean "antagonized each other mercilessly". Anyway, when I mentioned that we'd be driving out to Chicago, we started to plan a meet-up so we could antagonize each other in person. He and his family ended up driving down from Wisconsin in order to spend 2 days and one night hanging out in the middle of a huge city notorious for corruption with some people they only knew from the internet. Are they insane, or extremely cool?

(thinking.)

(still thinking.)

We'll go with extremely cool. :cool2: As we drove, Julie called to let them know we'd be arriving at the hotel. Barry was already there, and his family had already discovered the rooftop swimming pool. We'd meet in the lobby after checking in.

I love the Chicago skyline. It's so distinctive.

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We had a scenic trip along Lakeshore Drive with the skyline in front and Lake Michigan on the right. After driving past Soldier Field (home of Da Bears), we passed Grant Park and the famous Buckingham Fountain on the left.

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See that spectacular display? Remember that. We'll come back here later on.

Within minutes, we arrived at our downtown hotel: the Best Western River North. As it turned out, this was a great place to stay. It wasn't fancy, but the rooms were huge and appeared to have been recently renovated, the price was about $100 cheaper than any other downtown hotel, it had a pool, and most critically: they offered free parking. Since that costs $40 a day anywhere else, that was a huge value. We were close to most of the downtown tourist sites and easily within reach of many more through the city's bus and train systems. A day pass for the transit system was available right at the front desk. It really worked out well.

The only downside to the parking was that you had to leave your key with the valet, and they used every available inch of the lot to park the cars. So if you were unlucky, your car would be crammed behind three others when you wanted to check out. :crowded:

Anyway, we checked in, got our room keys, hauled our 17 bags/coolers/random crap into the room, and started to get settled. Then we got a call. It was Barry, letting us know that they were downstairs in the lobby. We would get this call several times over the next 24 hours, so I'm pretty sure it's the Wisconsin way of saying, "Hey slowpokes, get your lazy behinds in gear."

So, at long last, the Oblivious clan was meeting the Frozen Monkeys. We moved out of the room, piled into the elevator, and rode to the lobby. Emerging from the elevator, we walked into the lobby to find...

Coming Up Next: The EPIC DIS MEET®. And 2 intrepid explorers demonstrate the ease of properly navigating the urban jungle.
 
Wow, what time is lunch over there? :confused3 :rotfl2:

Lunch is usually only 5 minutes, whenever we can squeeze it in during the day. Such is the life of a state employee, owing to our tireless work ethic.

Nah, it came off pretty easy. Just one or two baths in turpentine and I could barely smell it anymore. :thumbsup2

Why do you think we gave you the birch beer?
 
Wait, you're following MY directions?! :eek:

I know, scary, right?:scared1:


But you returned it already.

Well....really? Do I need to explain this?


I'd still much rather watch Dirty Jobs tonight than Simon Cowell's Brand New American Idol Show That Isn't American Idol Even Though It's Exactly Like American Idol.

True. Good thing The Middle is on.


Who's that? Am I being fired from my own TR? :confused3

hee-hee-hee :rolleyes1
 
I'm starting to think this trip report is like DOT. You start to think it's really going along and bam it stops for a few days. But, it sure has been entertaining.:thumbsup2
 
I'm starting to think this trip report is like DOT. You start to think it's really going along and bam it stops for a few days. But, it sure has been entertaining.:thumbsup2

Just posted an update. So there!

(oh, and thanks, I'm glad you're enjoying it!) :rotfl:
 
Absolutely you can join us! If we're down there. And you can stand the thought of being in the room with us.

Thanks! But now that you’ve extended the invitation (and to me for that matter) I may need to seriously question your sanity

My friend is originally from near Spartanburg and his family has a place in Pawleys. He wanted to show off the "arrogantly shabby" vibe of the place.

I’ve not heard it described in those particular terms before, but having now heard the description, I inclined to agree with the assessment (but y’all will have fun down there anyway).
 
Our lunch was a tasty course of PB&J and cheese balls. No points for guessing that. Sorry.

Are you sure? 'Cause I remember not making sandwiches that morning and then Cathy packing the left over pizza. I also remember getting ice cream from the machine. The whole BACK....to the Future! thing messed up our eating schedule.


I'm sure some people think it's fascinating, but I find it really weird and creepy, and I didn't have any desire to see it. I'm guessing my kids wouldn't have done well with that, either.

Yeah, your wife wouldn't have done well either....I vote creepy.


We found a cantilevered United airlines jet on one floor, and Dave took the opportunity to see one of the parts you don't normally get to check out up close.
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On our last trip to Disney, Mark got video of Dave saying "See the propeller? If you get too close, it'll suck you up."


And a room with a colored-bubbly display wall. I don't know what the purpose of it was, but it looked cool. If any of you are renovating your house and want to take on a more contemporary style, maybe you can incorporate this wall. (extra charge for the kids)

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WHAT is Scotty doing?



On the way out, we checked out the Pioneer Zephyr, one of the first diesel-electric trains (from 1934). Sarah and Scotty got into a litte bit of trouble.

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Good thing Dave was there to rescue them.

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Hmm.....wonder where they got the idea for silly pictures? :confused3


If you're ever in Chicago, go to the Museum of Science and Industry.

:thumbsup2 Run! Don't walk! :cool1:


He and his family ended up driving down from Wisconsin in order to spend 2 days and one night hanging out in the middle of a huge city notorious for corruption with some people they only knew from the internet. Are they insane, or extremely cool?

(thinking.)

(still thinking.)

Well, on facebook, this feat qualifies him for "Village Idiot" in Crazytown.


Then we got a call. It was Barry, letting us know that they were downstairs in the lobby. We would get this call several times over the next 24 hours, so I'm pretty sure it's the Wisconsin way of saying, "Hey slowpokes, get your lazy behinds in gear."

Yeah, for some reason we were always the last ones somewhere.....that'll change when they have their third....


So, at long last, the Oblivious clan was meeting the Frozen Monkeys. We moved out of the room, piled into the elevator, and rode to the lobby. Emerging from the elevator, we walked into the lobby to find...

Oh!! The drama!!!! Must we wait another day?!
 














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