DIS Dads Rust Belt Road Trip (2 UPDATES--1/18)

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How far are you from Sparta, Tanya? I use to live there.

Well, since I had only heard of Sparta vaguely (maybe they were in state basketball tournaments at some point??) I had to MapQuest it. It says I am about 215 miles away. It is a lot closer to where my son is, though. He is going to school in Carbondale and it doesn't look too terribly far from there. I am closer to the Peoria area. Half-way between Peoria and the Quad Cities in Iowa/Illinois and halfway between Chicago and St Louis.
 
Well, since I had only heard of Sparta vaguely (maybe they were in state basketball tournaments at some point??) I had to MapQuest it. It says I am about 215 miles away. It is a lot closer to where my son is, though. He is going to school in Carbondale and it doesn't look too terribly far from there. I am closer to the Peoria area. Half-way between Peoria and the Quad Cities in Iowa/Illinois and halfway between Chicago and St Louis.

Ya'll are northeren then. :rotfl2:
 
If your son likes hats and t-shirts, you need to visit Steve ASAP! He'll hook you right up. :thumbsup2

My t-shirt addicted son (also named Mark) will buy a shirt for a specific reason and may only wear it that one time. He was in a Fantasy Baseball League last year and won it. Next thing I know he is wanting me to order him a "Fantasy Baseball Champion" t-shirt. I think he wore it once....possibly twice. And during play-offs (any playoffs, NBA, college sports, baseball....) he will want a shirt of whichever team he is backing so he can wear it the day they play....inevitably they will then lose and then he won't wear the shirt any more because....well, because paybacks are a ....uh....bad word:rolleyes: He will brag up his team and taunt other people about theirs so obnoxiously that he tries to be as invisible as possible once his team loses because they give him so much crap! :lmao:
 

its in Canton Ohio, just 22 miles south on I-77 on your right. Jim Thorpe. Nuff said ! But if you must stay in Cleveland, eat @ MELT BAR & GRILLED restaurant (the most amazing grilled cheese sangwiches in the world) - plus - if you get a tatoo of a grilled cheese on yourself, you get a 20% discount there for life!
 
its in Canton Ohio, just 22 miles south on I-77 on your right. Jim Thorpe. Nuff said ! But if you must stay in Cleveland, eat @ MELT BAR & GRILLED restaurant (the most amazing grilled cheese sangwiches in the world) - plus - if you get a tatoo of a grilled cheese on yourself, you get a 20% discount there for life!

Late for the party but joining in now. You need another female vioce over here.

I lived in Canton for 10+ years and have NEVER been to the Football Hall of Fame.:scared1: But I also have been a life long Cleveland Browns fan. I guess that right there proves I'm not a true football fan...just a tortured soul.:lmao:
 
Late for the party but joining in now. You need another female vioce over here.

I lived in Canton for 10+ years and have NEVER been to the Football Hall of Fame.:scared1: But I also have been a life long Cleveland Browns fan. I guess that right there proves I'm not a true football fan...just a tortured soul.:lmao:

Include me in your tortured soul group! :lmao: Might as well say that for about any Cleveland sports team!
 
its in Canton Ohio, just 22 miles south on I-77 on your right. Jim Thorpe. Nuff said ! But if you must stay in Cleveland, eat @ MELT BAR & GRILLED restaurant (the most amazing grilled cheese sangwiches in the world) - plus - if you get a tatoo of a grilled cheese on yourself, you get a 20% discount there for life!

:welcome: Massillon Dad! And don't worry, the Hall of Fame is the next stop on the agenda. The Melt Bar sounds pretty awesome. Not sure 20% is worth a lifelong tattoo of a sandwich, but it sounds fun.

Late for the party but joining in now. You need another female vioce over here.

I lived in Canton for 10+ years and have NEVER been to the Football Hall of Fame.:scared1: But I also have been a life long Cleveland Browns fan. I guess that right there proves I'm not a true football fan...just a tortured soul.:lmao:

:welcome: Glad to have you here! And thanks for helping with my female demographics. :rotfl2:

I see you're located in Delaware as well...whereabouts?

Is there any more tortured sports city than Cleveland? I say no. I would say admitting you're a lifelong Browns fan is the ultimate. No fairweather fan would admit to it, right?

Include me in your tortured soul group! :lmao: Might as well say that for about any Cleveland sports team!

On the plus side, you have Jim Thome back in town! Love that guy.
 
Trip Report Shameless Plug Center

I thought I'd try and gather all of the various trip reports I've followed from my faithful readers here into one place for easy access and reference. If I've missed one of yours, just let me know and I'll happily post it here.

I can vouch for all of my friends here on the Disboards. They're great people, great writers, and have terrific families and stories to share. I promise you won't be disappointed in taking the time to read along. Anyway, the list is below.

My earlier trip reports:
A Vacation From My Problems (Sept. 2010, Walt Disney World)
Voyage of the Delawareans (Nov. 2009, Cruise on the Disney Wonder)
Other non-Disney trip reports listed under "Non-Disney Travel" at Disdads.com

KatMark
Sept./Oct. 2011 Pre-Trip Report
A Mouse, Two Little Minnows Who Wear Out Grumpy and Test Track Moves to Naples (WDW/Florida Nov. 2010
Uppy, Uppy, Mr. Andy

FreezinRafiki
Houston, We Have a Secret (WDW April 2011)
Everything Old Is New Again (WDW Dec. 2010)
Cheese Ball Yak Attack (WDW March 2010)
2 Kids, 2 Dogs, 1,200 Miles (WDW Oct. 2009)

All7OfUs
ABC's of Trip Reporting, Part 1
ABC's of Trip Reporting, Part 2

glennbo123
The Moist Exhausting Free Trip Ever, Pt. 1 (WDW June 2010)
The Moist Exhausting Free Trip Ever, Pt. 2 (WDW June 2010)
I Paid Someone $5 for a Catchy Trip Report Title, and This Is All I Got (WDW June/July 2009)

Middlepat
(Yes, he's my nemesis, but you can still follow along and make fun of him)
The Wagon Queen Family Truckster Heads West (Western U.S.& Canada, July 2011)
(His wife also had a Disney TR but I can't find the link)

Marvali
Snow to 80 in 8 Days (WDW Dec. 2011)

GoofyIsAsGoofyDoes
Experiment 627: A Caribbean Double with a Wilderness Chaser (Disney Dream/WL July 2011)
You're Writing a TR? Really? (WDW Dec. 2010)

Afwdwfan
I Will Never Go To Disney World Pushing A Stroller! (Nov. 2011 Pre-Trip Report)

Flossbolna/Nodnol
A Birthday Trip Without A Birthday (Oct. 2011 Pre-Trip Report)
From Europe to Africa in America: A Sisters' Expedition (WDW Jan./Feb. 2010)

Poolrat
The Side Effects of the AP - Trip #4 (WDW Sept. 2010)

mom3sonstt
The Good, the Bad & the Nuts! A Trip Through Time

I'm sure I missed somebody somewhere, so please feel free to let me know, and I'll be happy to add your TR to the Shameless Plug Center! :thumbsup2
 
:welcome: Glad to have you here! And thanks for helping with my female demographics. :rotfl2:

I see you're located in Delaware as well...whereabouts?

Is there any more tortured sports city than Cleveland? I say no. I would say admitting you're a lifelong Browns fan is the ultimate. No fairweather fan would admit to it, right?

I'm in Magnolia. I actually think Philly is a more tortured city. At least with Cleveland I know they are going to lose most of the time. With Philly teams, they all seem to get right to the end then blow it. Phillies being the 1 time exception lately. I'm a Flyers fan and they make me crazy.
 
Football in America is a special game. A unique game. The men who play it make it so.
--John Facenda, aka "Voice of God", NFL Films​

After our luxurious, upscale meal at Mike's Place and a pleasant evening and breakfast at the Country Inn, it was time to head south to Canton. Ever since we had first come up with the idea of a road trip to Chicago, I'd had my eye on a stop at the Pro Football Hall of Fame. Because football is awesome. Do I need any other reason?

I had to make sure everyone else was on board with it, though. First, I went to Julie:
Me: "You know, we will be driving near Canton, Ohio..."
Julie: "We're stopping at the Football Hall of Fame, right? We'd better be stopping there!"

:love: I love you, honey.

And I'm sure the kids were fine with the idea too. Their opinion doesn't matter, since I'm driving.

Ok, fine, I asked them too. The boys thought it was a great idea. And Sarah said, "Well, football is better than baseball on TV, and I like the Eagles." That counts as approval in my book. You know, if I had a book to keep track of such things.

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We decked ourselves out for the day in our finest Philadelphia Eagles gear, in order to better celebrate our team's proud history of not winning a blessed thing since 1960. That's right, I've never seen a championship in my lifetime. They seem to specialize in ripping out the collective hearts of their fans in excruciating fashion. So, I'm starting my kids young. Anyone who knows better would probably not choose to be an Eagles fan.

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Yes, Sarah is wearing a Donovan McNabb jersey and Scotty is sporting Brian Westbrook, neither of whom play for the Eagles anymore. The Budget Committee has yet to approve new uniforms.

The Pro Football Hall of Fame is located in Canton because that was the home of the American Professional Football Association, which eventually became the NFL. It was also the home of the Canton Bulldogs team, which had great success owing to their star player, Jim Thorpe:

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We entered the front door and saw a long line. Thankfully, it was for the window where you could get tickets to the 2011 enshrinement ceremony, which would be taking place in a couple of weeks. The other window was open.

A guy in a Redskins shirt saw our outfits and gave me the stink-eye. I gave one right back to him and promptly walked into a trash can, knocking it over. "Just like the Eagles," somebody else in line remarked. :headache:

"He didn't throw it to me," I replied. Somebody else made a comment about the kids wearing all their Eagles gear. I told him we weren't sure if our family out-numbered the Eagles actually enshrined in the Hall. That got a big laugh out of the line for some reason.

We walked up a spiral staircase into the exhibit rooms. They had a big exhibit detailing the history of professional football from its inception to present day. I found this small display commemorating the last time the Eagles were good:

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Another room had an exhibit featuring every NFL team. It didn't take too long to find the Dallas Cowboys:

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And our beloved Eagles:

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Have I mentioned how awesome my kids are yet?

From there, we found the main hall, which features a bust of every player enshrined. These are the greatest players in pro football history.

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The room, as you can see, was kinda cool and kinda creepy at the same time. I looked around for some of my favorite Eagles, like Reggie White and "Concrete Charlie" Bednarik. Julie also found her favorite, Joe Montana. She admired him only for his football talent, or so she tells me.

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Woman: Is this some kind of a bust?
Officer: Yes, ma'am, it's very impressive.

The coolest part of the hall was a series of huge touch-screens. You could find any player in the hall, and pull up their bio, career stats, and even video highlights of them in action. We had a lot of fun re-living the glory days of Reggie White, Joe Montana, Dan Marino, Walter Payton, and so on.

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For some reason, I couldn't find former Eagles #1 pick Mike Mamula anywhere.

A room showcasing recent achievements was next, and Dave quickly found his favorite player's jersey--DeSean Jackson. He was noted for having scored a touchdown on a play longer than 60 yards in each of the first 3 games of the 2009 season.

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We also found former Packers great Brett Favre's jersey, and I felt like I needed to take a picture for Barry, seeing as this is his hero and he'll always be beloved in Green Bay.

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The next exhibit was the Super Bowl room, which had the Lombardi Trophy on display. I'm pretty sure this is about as close as Eagles fans have gotten to actually touching it:

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We got to see a presentation of the most recent NFL Films Super Bowl film, detailing the Packers' win over the Steelers. It was shown in a theater that rotated 360 degrees. This sounds cooler than it actually is. Really, the only point of that was so they could have two seating areas and keep rotating them so they can move crowds through more quickly. Other than that, you were just watching the movie on a screen. Thankfully, NFL Films are like Disney World--I can't get enough of either one. So I was happy enough just to watch the movie. With their crackerjack camerawork, slow-motion photography and stirring music, NFL Films make even warm-ups feel like life-or-death situations.

While in line for the movie, a group of teens wearing high school jerseys got in line behind us. We think they must have come straight from practice, because that group had the worst body odor we've ever encountered. :eek: :faint: When they opened the theater doors, I guided the family to a row that was already partially filled so that we wouldn't have to sit next to them. If only those guys had been able to do this:

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Downstairs, they had a few "interactive exhibits", which basically meant a couple of trivia stations, a TV where you could play the latest Madden video game, and a football toss.

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It was crowded and the B.O. Squad was close, so we didn't stay long. We lingered in the gift shop for a while, as Julie bound my hands behind my back and forbade me from blowing our vacation budget on football souvenirs. :sad1:

After picking up a few minor trinkets, I took the kids to try out the NexTurf practice field next to the parking lot while Chef Julie worked on our PB&J sandwiches.

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Remember the heat wave? It was about 98 degrees outside at this point, so our "game" consisted of each kid getting the chance to catch a pass and then walking back to the van for lunch.

Here endeth our tour of the Pro Football Hall of Fame. I enjoyed the visit here, and I think it's worth the trip for every football fan. That being said, I'm not sure I will be scheduling a return trip anytime soon. It could have used some more interactive features instead of static displays, and I'm not sure enough will be changing over time to warrant a return visit.

That was about it for the day's fun. The rest of the day involved a 5-hour drive to South Bend, Indiana where we were meeting our friends from college, Tom and Cathy. So, we set out after lunch on the drive--bellies full, DVD player running.

As we drove along the Ohio Turnpike, we noticed the clouds getting darker. And darker. Then it started spitting rain. Then it started raining steadily.

Eventually, it did this:

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Many intelligent, safety-conscious drivers pulled over to the shoulder to wait the storm out. Naturally, I kept driving. :woohoo: We crawled along for 10 or 15 minutes until I finally found a rest stop where we could take a bathroom break.

From there, it was on to Indiana. We needed to fill up with gas, so I was watching the fuel prices on billboards as we drove through Ohio. $3.55....$3.57...$3.56...

Wanting to make good time, we kept going. We finally pulled over at the first rest stop in Indiana.

$4.19/gallon. :headache:

I believe I now know where the term "highway robbery" comes from.

In any event, we pulled into South Bend that evening, and spent the night eating and catching up with our friends. We learned to our amazement that they had never, ever seen one episode of Phineas & Ferb.

Naturally, these poor deprived souls needed to be enlightened. So, at 10:00 p.m., we sat down, started up Netflix Instant Streaming and introduced our friends to what will hopefully be a new fulfilling world of intellectual entertainment.

Coming Up Next: Overcast with 60% chance of showers. Time to hit the beach!
 
I'm in Magnolia. I actually think Philly is a more tortured city. At least with Cleveland I know they are going to lose most of the time. With Philly teams, they all seem to get right to the end then blow it. Phillies being the 1 time exception lately. I'm a Flyers fan and they make me crazy.

I live near Odessa but work in Dover. Did you make it through the hurricane ok?

::yes:: I would definitely have voted for Philly as being the most tortured, but with the Phillies finally winning in 2008, it seems hard to say that anymore. But I know how you feel about the Flyers. I'm still trying to figure out why they blew up the team this summer. :confused3
 
I live near Odessa but work in Dover. Did you make it through the hurricane ok?

::yes:: I would definitely have voted for Philly as being the most tortured, but with the Phillies finally winning in 2008, it seems hard to say that anymore. But I know how you feel about the Flyers. I'm still trying to figure out why they blew up the team this summer. :confused3

The same reason the Hawks blew theirs up after they won the Stanley Cup -- MONEY!

And as for long suffering fans, I think my Cubbies are right there up at the top!

I'll read your update tonight.
 
I live near Odessa but work in Dover. Did you make it through the hurricane ok?

::yes:: I would definitely have voted for Philly as being the most tortured, but with the Phillies finally winning in 2008, it seems hard to say that anymore. But I know how you feel about the Flyers. I'm still trying to figure out why they blew up the team this summer. :confused3

Because they can. :rotfl2:

The same reason the Hawks blew theirs up after they won the Stanley Cup -- MONEY!

And as for long suffering fans, I think my Cubbies are right there up at the top!

I'll read your update tonight.

::yes:: Although I'm hopefull with the moves the Hawks have made this summer. I think they have found a good mix of players, including Carcillo. He's got that AJ Pyrzinski atribute about him, can't stand him on any team but your own. :rotfl2:
 
Because football is awesome. Do I need any other reason?
Nope. That about does it.

That's right, I've never seen a championship in my lifetime. They seem to specialize in ripping out the collective hearts of their fans in excruciating fashion. So, I'm starting my kids young. Anyone who knows better would probably not choose to be an Eagles fan.
There's always room on the Packer's bandwagon. I'll gather up some cheeseheads and mail them off to the kids tonight. :thumbsup2
Yes, Sarah is wearing a Donovan McNabb jersey and Scotty is sporting Brian Westbrook, neither of whom play for the Eagles anymore. The Budget Committee has yet to approve new uniforms.
I've never liked the idea of paying anywhere from $50 - $200 for a shirt from someone that may not be on the team in a few years (exhibit A: Favre, Brett). Taking it a step further, I'm even wary of paying that much much money for someone who's still alive, just in case they do something embarrassing after they retire. (Exhibit B: Favre, Brett). Therefore, the only Packer jersey I have in my closet it a #66 Ray Nitschke.

A guy in a Redskins shirt saw our outfits and gave me the stink-eye. I gave one right back to him and promptly walked into a trash can, knocking it over. "Just like the Eagles," somebody else in line remarked. :headache:
:sad2: What did the kids try to do first - take off the Eagles garb or pretend they didn't know you?

Julie also found her favorite, Joe Montana. She admired him only for his football talent, or so she tells me.
Certainly. He could zip a pass through coverage so tight that...hey, is that lipstick on the Joe Montana bust?

For some reason, I couldn't find former Eagles #1 pick Mike Mamula anywhere.
He's there. Just keep looking. Check the janitor's closet on the 2nd floor. He's probably cleaning his mop.



We also found former Packers great Brett Favre's jersey, and I felt like I needed to take a picture for Barry, seeing as this is his hero and he'll always be beloved in Green Bay.

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Beloved like a tongue on a metal pole in January. It was pretty heated for a while back in '08. Seems the state was divided between supporters of Favre and GM Ted Thompson. But as they say, time heals all wounds. That, and the guy that replaced him is the reigning Super Bowl MVP. Maybe that should be an old Chinese proverb.

We got to see a presentation of the most recent NFL Films Super Bowl film, detailing the Packers' win over the Steelers. It was shown in a theater that rotated 360 degrees. This sounds cooler than it actually is. Really, the only point of that was so they could have two seating areas and keep rotating them so they can move crowds through more quickly.
So I can sit in a seat, rotate all day long and watch the Packers win over and over and over? Do they sell brats there? Because I could live off that all day.


It was crowded and the B.O. Squad was close, so we didn't stay long. We lingered in the gift shop for a while, as Julie bound my hands behind my back and forbade me from blowing our vacation budget on football souvenirs. :sad1:
Can you appeal that decision to the budge committee?
Oh, sorry.

Many intelligent, safety-conscious drivers pulled over to the shoulder to wait the storm out. Naturally, I kept driving.

See? More room on the road for you! That makes it safer!

In any event, we pulled into South Bend that evening, and spent the night eating and catching up with our friends. We learned to our amazement that they had never, ever seen one episode of Phineas & Ferb.
And I'm sure they had a lovely decorated rock they were living under. :eek:

Naturally, these poor deprived souls needed to be enlightened. So, at 10:00 p.m., we sat down, started up Netflix Instant Streaming and introduced our friends to what will hopefully be a new fulfilling world of intellectual entertainment.
Captain_Oblivious: Prophet. :thumbsup2
 
Because football is awesome. Do I need any other reason?
No. That's reason enough for me! :thumbsup2

Me: "You know, we will be driving near Canton, Ohio..."
Julie: "We're stopping at the Football Hall of Fame, right? We'd better be stopping there!"
If I had that conversation with my wife it would go something like this....
Me: You know, we will be driving near Canton, Ohio...
DW: :confused::confused::confused:
Me. The Football Hall of Fame is there...
DW: :headache:

"Well, football is better than baseball on TV, and I like the Eagles."
I guess that is approval. Although I'm not sure about that last part.:rolleyes1

Anyone who knows better would probably not choose to be an Eagles fan.
::yes::

The Budget Committee has yet to approve new uniforms.
Somebody's about to get a lot of hits to their profile page... :rolleyes1

Somebody else made a comment about the kids wearing all their Eagles gear. I told him we weren't sure if our family out-numbered the Eagles actually enshrined in the Hall. That got a big laugh out of the line for some reason.
:lmao::rotfl2::rotfl:

Another room had an exhibit featuring every NFL team. It didn't take too long to find the Dallas Cowboys:
Julie is the only "true" Eagles fan in your family. She even refused to be photographed in front of that display.:lmao:

Have I mentioned how awesome my kids are yet?
Once or twice... although I don't recall them ever mentioning how awesome their dad is.:rolleyes1

Woman: Is this some kind of a bust?
Officer: Yes, ma'am, it's very impressive.
Naked Gun 2 1/2 :rolleyes1

We also found former Packers great Brett Favre's jersey, and I felt like I needed to take a picture for Barry, seeing as this is his hero and he'll always be beloved in Green Bay.
:lmao::rotfl2::rotfl::thumbsup2 Nicely done.

Remember the heat wave? It was about 98 degrees outside at this point, so our "game" consisted of each kid getting the chance to catch a pass and then walking back to the van for lunch.
Were you able to keep the "BO squad" away from the van with this tactic?:confused3

The rest of the day involved a 5-hour drive to South Bend, Indiana
So did you hit the College Football Hall of Fame too?????

We needed to fill up with gas, so I was watching the fuel prices on billboards as we drove through Ohio. $3.55....$3.57...$3.56...

Wanting to make good time, we kept going. We finally pulled over at the first rest stop in Indiana.

$4.19/gallon. :headache:
Welcome to Indiana! :thumbsup2
 
Well, sounds like Poolrat is a good candidate! She loved Mike's rules. I would never agree to the one that Mike is always right - my rule is that I am always right!!! :rotfl:

Mike knows when he has been beat if he is scared of his wife. :rotfl2:




Nice update, even if it all about football. :laughing: Don't mind the game all that much but if you are glued to the tube and can't even try to answer a yes or no question during a football game then I don't like football.


As for shameless plugging, mine did not make the list. :)
 














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