Thanks for the clarification. I didn't realize that.
And the old golf program, and free tickets the first 10 years, etc. I thought our best was very briefly under the woman who succeeded the guy (Lewis?) who was forced out over the Aulani dues fiasco. I can't remember the names, but I know many of you, like me, have been here long enough to know who I am talking about. She raised our DVC discount from 10% to 20% and 30% at some places for dining, and 20% on merchandise. Didn't she have the 18 month (or was it 15 month) Gold pass for the price of one year? And I think she had some other great discounts. She was also the first one who actually talked to members, and acted like we mattered. Then she was moved on and up. Lewis sure never cared about us. None of them acted like they cared before her.
I kept thinking Claire, but the rest just wouldn't come. I really liked her, because she acted like we mattered. Lewis sure didn't. Ken Potruk sure didn't. Has anyone else acted like they valued or cared about the members?
Thanks, I was sure it was there but couldn't double check so didn't want to be too absolute.
It probably is possible legally if they made it effective for future buyers and grandfathered everyone but it'd still be an uphill battle. And it might be an area where they'd need the members themselves to vote such a change which I'm certain they do not want to set a precedence for. But I've seen far too many situations in timeshares where "they can't" or "they won't" turn into "they did" including with DVC. And I personally don't think DVC is too worried about members complaining as long as it doesn't affect overall sales/profits long term or suing as long as they think they can win. I've also seen a lot of threats on these boards about those 2 areas that never came to pass.
I’m looking to buy direct points and was told by the guide that the minimum increases in October.
Smart on Disneys part...it will increase direct sales imho. but I am not sure at what point it is too much, but still the only perk that makes it worth the blue card are the AP's
...and there are two ways to win. One is by being (legally) correct. The other is by having more resources than the other side and winning through attrition.
I don't think DVD wants to lose in court thus I do think they'll want to be legally correct before proceeding but once we get to that point, I don't think they'll hesitate to enforce anything if they're sure of the first. Now there are examples where their first decision probably wasn't legally enforceable like the ability to borrow 2000 OKW points into 1999 where their first decision was you couldn't do so and get the free passes but when challenged they realized the POS didn't preclude that option and there was no portion where they could make that argument. But that's different than a reallocation since in the example it's unlikely they ran it by the legal team where for the other you can be sure they did.
I think it would be very difficult to make it retroactive if not impossible but otherwise probably not too difficult.
I have learned that people keep buying direct and DVC keeps raising tbe number of points needed for a blue card.
LOL. The truth is we don't know and we're not sure if it'll happen though it appears likely. I guess if it happens it really doesn't matter. My guess is it'll cause a flurry of buying, then a lull and then long term more retail points purchased than the current minimum but even if it's the same # of points retail (with less buyers) it'll be a higher profit with less work. It only hurts DVD if it causes less profit even if some walk.
If you read other threads (or forums or sites), you'll also learn about how Riviera just isn't selling very well. That is, despite about the same number of deeds being recorded every week and month as other DVC properties when they were for sale (excluding the shutdown period when they were closed). The internet is truly a magical place.
I toured on Tuesday At Riviera and my guide said 10/1.
