Rumor about “modified experiences” when Disney reopens (read 1st post for potential modifications being considered)

[koszmok]

You have no idea if you are a spreader or not. Most infected people are shedding virus long before they get symptoms. But I highly suspect Disney will allow face shields for people who cannot handle even a light paper mask. I don't know how many times people need to post that it doesn't matter if you touch your mask and it doesn't matter if you "contaminate" your mask, but it doesn't, because it isn't designed to protect you it is designed to protect others, so don't worry about it.

I don`t know how many times I need to post this ... (just reflecting to your post)

Yes, I know that I can`t be sure that I`m a spreader. I never said that I know for sure.

It does matter If my mask got contaminated because it will infect me.
Or If someone`s child mask got contaminated and the child gets infected.

So what are you saying ? Is it OK if I get infected ONLY that matters that everyone else is protected from me?

I can be selfish I know that but this thinking seems unfair.

I`m willing to take the chance to get infected from someone`s droplet but
I`m not willing to take the chance to get infected from a contaminated mask. It is darn difficult to keep a mask safe ( I mean not to contaminate it) especially in a theme park.

PS I agree with a previous post thought we shouldn`t debate the mask question here anymore
I should protect others but no one cares that I could get sick.... nice one!

 

[Arym]

You are of course correct and more than justified in your view. I do find it to be a bit of a false equivalency. While all the activities you mention do have risks attached, most also have procedures and common sense guidelines you can follow in order to minimize that risk on a very visceral way. You can see the threats to safety in those activities. If he is swinging to high you stop him. I cannot see if the guy who sneezed in his hand grabbed the safety bar before my kid did. Plus I think there is far to much not yet learned on this virus. For example a month ago it did not affect kids at all. Oops. lastly I am not looking for anyone else to manage safety for my child. It is my job to keep them out of harms way. And my kids are not limited. They play sports, commute to the city for school and enjoy freedoms and experiences I never dreamed of as a kid. I am not overly cautious in general, I just don’t see the value in taking any chances right now

Fair enough and I was somewhat thinking out loud. But, we do accept some risks. Yes, we can tell them not to swing so high but honestly, I don't have my eye on them ever second they are on the swingset. Some of us seem to be waiting for a risk free existence to open back up when we have always dealt with some risks in life. If the children suffering serious complications gets well in the four digits, I would likely worry but it isn't to that point right now and we all, of course, hope it never does.

 

[Coach Holden]

Can’t wait to see the protocol on masks being mandatory at WDW... including resorts. If an Individual removes it for various reasons, how do you reasonably enforce that at a place like that?

 

[LSUmiss]

Lovely post. I remember many years ago folks were up in arms about something. The complaints were the same too: too restrictive, claustrophobic, uncomfortable, you can't make me, etc. etc. It just wasn't normal to use them. Then laws were passed mandating their use. Years go by and everyone uses it now, without question or complaint. Sure there are a few holdouts, there always will be some. Funnily enough, it's one of the items that could save your life when that drunk driver hit you. It was called seat belts.

Masks are here - welcome to the new normal.

This post is not about mask as much as you want it to be. The pp was saying they wouldn’t take a child to wdw now b/c of the risk.

 

[DGsAtBLT]

Can’t wait to see the protocol on masks being mandatory at WDW... including resorts. If an Individual removes it for various reasons, how do you reasonably enforce that at a place like that?

Daily in room security checks, now featuring mask inspections!

 

[ENJDisneyFan]

Can’t wait to see the protocol on masks being mandatory at WDW... including resorts. If an Individual removes it for various reasons, how do you reasonably enforce that at a place like that?

Welcome to the last 100 pages of this thread lol

 

[jbock]

first it not "they may have been saying that" they have been saying that, it's on video and recording
Second they are playing it one week at a time, they can't come out and say "we're opening this day" right now because we haven't switched to phase 2 and we don't have the data yet
Once they have that, I'm sure we will see a more specific date posted. By cancelling reservations one week at a time gives them the ability to give the guests 3 weeks notice that their vacation won't happen and at the same time the ability to open on short notice

My "may" was not intended to suggest it was debatable as to what they said. I meant it as in, "Johnny may be telling me he has $5 but I see evidence to the contrary." I did not ask for a date. I said, "after Phase 2 is announced, it will take us [#] weeks to accomplish X,Y,Z at which point this will be open, this will be closed." I meant they could say "If we are in Phase 2 on June 15th, we'll open these resorts/parks on July 1."

I believe they could do that if they wanted to. They have figured out how long it will take them to get going. They have figured out what resorts / parks they want to open in what order. I imagine that they have been thinking about that well before they closed. If they are not prepared to do that right now, they should say "It's going to be a few months because we have not been planning on how to open because it's too unclear what is going on." The only reason that they could not announce a detailed plan right now that I can see is if they were worried the phase 2 event would get sprung on them with no notice. Like if the leadership team of Disney was sitting at home watching the 12PM news and suddenly there's an announcement "In 30 minutes we'll be in phase 2." Then I would understand it because they were thinking they'd have 2 weeks warning before they hit a new phase and so now they need more time then they thought they would be given to prep to open. I would also imagine though, that they've communicated the notice they'd need.

At the end of the day however, they can do whatever they want. It is a lot of money they hold for room-onlys + pre-paid tix though, involves flights, car rental, etc., so it would be nice to have some sort of specific plan or at least a communication that they have no idea what they're doing until phase 2 is actually announced, in which case they should stop taking any $ at time of reservation bc they do not seem to know when that will be.

 

[Chris Ehlers]

I was just alerted (DVC - BLT - 6/7-6/14) to begin Check-In and finish my Magic Band order that I was unable to do this 2 days ago........not sure what this means, but thought I would mention it to the group......

 

[hereforthechurros]

There seems to be enough ppl who want to wear them & think they should as their duty to humanity. And I doubt Disney wants to open themselves up to potential Ada violations. So I am sure there will be concessions & ppl probably will take advantage of that. But that’s always the case. So we don’t punish the ppl with disabilities b/c other ppl may take advantage of rules meant to make sure they have equal access.

Right in normal situations we do not do that. This isn’t a normal situation, and is in fact the most unique situation, and is not meant to punish anyone.

No one, I mean NO ONE, WANTS to wear a mask.

 

[LSUmiss]

Right in normal situations we do not do that. This isn’t a normal situation, and is in fact the most unique situation, and is not meant to punish anyone.

No one, I mean NO ONE, WANTS to wear a mask.

So b/c if it’s an abnormal situation, we have the right to deny ppl with disabilities access? Sorry I don’t think Ada works that way. But, we’ll have to see how it plays out. A few ppl with disabilities not wearing a mask doesn’t represent a public health risk great enough that we should be allowed to deny them access to things.

 

[hereforthechurros]

So b/c if it’s an abnormal situation, we have the right to deny ppl with disabilities access? Sorry I don’t think Ada works that way. But, we’ll have to see how it plays out. A few ppl with disabilities not wearing a mask doesn’t represent a public health risk great enough that we should be allowed to deny them access to things.

It’s not denying access. It’s private property stating those who enter must follow rules during a very dangerous time for large groups. And I said in my original post no doubt that Disney is already coming up with solutions to this issue IF they mandate masks. My child is almost seven. If they mandate masks for children I will have to seriously consider his ability to do so and if not, I’ll take him when masks aren’t mandated. No big deal.

edit: and the only reason this is a topic of conversation is because Chapek himself said they expect employees and guests will need to wear masks. Let’s hope between and now and opening, that things change and masks aren’t deemed necessary by Disney.

 

[junderwood99]

Replying to my post from earlier today. It appears that WDW is indeed starting to cancel reservations taking place during the first week of June that were booked directly with Disney (cash). Here is a report of a guest staying at Poly who had their first week of June reservation cancelled by Disney:
https://www.disboards.com/threads/l...rt-closure-news-updates.3800034/post-61878123

Something is iffy with this report ...... this is the ONLY June ressie that has been reported cancelled.
Nothing has been report to us agents of cancellations past May 30th. Will another week - entering first week of June get cancelled tomorrow or Thursday - most likely. But is has not started as of yet. Just my two cents.

 

[Tjddis]

I also cannot see the drunk driver who is about to plow into my vehicle before it kills us. I just have to take all possible safety precautions & hope for the best. Just the same you can take precautions to protect yourself from the virus even in public. And I think that’s the fear fatigue that so many of us have. The fear mongers would have you believe you step outside, you get the virus & then you die.

Those who feel comfortable to go will do so. The rest of us will not. To compare this to being hit by a drunk driver is pretty laughable for many reasons. There are societal norms and behaviors that are mandated and carry some fairly large consequences if violated. Drunk driving would be one of them. If I was afraid to go out for that reason I would agree I was needlessly fearful. Because as members of a civilization we expect others will obey the law. I also assume nobody will Run me over in my driveway, stab me in a restaurant or come light my house on fire. I cannot assume an asymptomatic person will not invade our space in an amusement park or any other large gathering. People on this board cannot even accept the idea of wearing a mask. Do you really doubt they will disregard other prescribed safety measures. The chorus of “they can’t make me” that echoes through here everyday seems to indicate otherwise.

 

[LSUmiss]

Those who feel comfortable to go will do so. The rest of us will not. To compare this to being hit by a drunk driver is pretty laughable for many reasons. There are societal norms and behaviors that are mandated and carry some fairly large consequences if violated. Drunk driving would be one of them. If I was afraid to go out for that reason I would agree I was needlessly fearful. Because as members of a civilization we expect others will obey the law. I also assume nobody will Run me over in my driveway, stab me in a restaurant or come light my house on fire. I cannot assume an asymptomatic person will not invade our space in an amusement park or any other large gathering. People on this board cannot even accept the idea of wearing a mask. Do you really doubt they will disregard other prescribed safety measures. The chorus of “they can’t make me” that echoes through here everyday seems to indicate otherwise.

Why not? If the rules are such then that is no different then ppl disobeying any other rule or law. There will always be ppl who won’t abide by rules & laws & this is no different.
ETA: most have complained that they think it’s ridiculous but have said that they will either not go or go & comply if they have to.

 

[charmed59]

Right now stores, shopping centers, airports and airlines have stated they require masks. I’m sure the ADA ramifications will be hashed out for those cases before Disney opens. Disney can follow how the others are handling it. No reason to reinvent the wheel.

 

[magickingdomprincess]

Just finished listening to the Disunplugged podcast. Pete is still hearing that Disney is planning/trying for 6/1 opening. He mentioned some inside sources, and also the fact that Disney isn't allowing changes/extensions to the free dining offers that were offered to those with cancellations during the park closure (sorry, kind of murky on these details because that part doesn't affect me). Anyways, for those of us wanting a reason to have hope for June, we got some! Oh, and for anyone who wants to hear more mask discussion, there was plenty of that too!

 

[Tjddis]

Why not? If the rules are such then that is no different then ppl disobeying any other rule or law. There will always be ppl who won’t abide by rules & laws & this is no different.
ETA: most have complained that they think it’s ridiculous but have said that they will either not go or go & comply if they have to.

I see absolutely no relation between taking care during the time of a highly contagious and potentialy fatal virus and assuming there are lawless miscreants running around trying to harm me. Also I have little desire to shell out a ton of cash to experience what looks like a severely limited park situation. Wish you well. Agree to disagree.

 

[SarahC97]

Just finished listening to the Disunplugged podcast. Pete is still hearing that Disney is planning/trying for 6/1 opening. He mentioned some inside sources, and also the fact that Disney isn't allowing changes/extensions to the free dining offers that were offered to those with cancellations during the park closure (sorry, kind of murky on these details because that part doesn't affect me). Anyways, for those of us wanting a reason to have hope for June, we got some! Oh, and for anyone who wants to hear more mask discussion, there was plenty of that too!

I'll have to listen. I imagine that Pete has some opinions to share about masks, should be entertaining!

 

[Mit88]

Just finished listening to the Disunplugged podcast. Pete is still hearing that Disney is planning/trying for 6/1 opening. He mentioned some inside sources, and also the fact that Disney isn't allowing changes/extensions to the free dining offers that were offered to those with cancellations during the park closure (sorry, kind of murky on these details because that part doesn't affect me). Anyways, for those of us wanting a reason to have hope for June, we got some! Oh, and for anyone who wants to hear more mask discussion, there was plenty of that too!

And then later today there will be an article that spells doom and gloom for June reservations. The see-saw of “evidence” between opening in June, and not opening until July or later is just, incredible...and frustrating lol. I want to believe June. But typically when you say you’re optimistic about June, someone that thinks it won’t open in June will put you in your place, or an article stating something that doesn’t look good for June opening surfaces and we’re back to where we started.

The not being able to make changes the free dining, or offering it to later reservations is very interesting though. They’re going to need something to reel people in that missed their previous trips, and giving free dining to those people, and then taking it away because they couldn’t open in the month that they offered it to cancelled reservations would be a pretty ugly PR move

 

[DGsAtBLT]

And then later today there will be an article that spells doom and gloom for June reservations. The see-saw of “evidence” between opening in June, and not opening until July or later is just, incredible...and frustrating lol. I want to believe June. But typically when you say you’re optimistic about June, someone that thinks it won’t open in June will put you in your place, or an article stating something that doesn’t look good for June opening surfaces and we’re back to where we started.

The not being able to make changes the free dining, or offering it to later reservations is very interesting though. They’re going to need something to reel people in that missed their previous trips, and giving free dining to those people, and then taking it away because they couldn’t open in the month that they offered it to cancelled reservations would be a pretty ugly PR move

I think the biggest hope for June is not any of the little things people hang their hats on, but that they are trying to make it happen in some fashion, or they would have made the call already.

We may see some things like CMs getting called back that look promising before we get an official announcement of an opening, but I think it’s going to be a late May call if it happens (leaning more last minute like their other official decisions).