Rumor about “modified experiences” when Disney reopens (read 1st post for potential modifications being considered)

[1lilspark]

From the company that has perfected, "Charge more and deliver less" I doubt it. If anything they'll make it a hard ticket, call it an "exclusive event" and charge 2X!

I mean a model could be time based tickets that fill the park at 1/4-1/2 capacity for either 9am-2pm or 6pm-11pm giving time in between to clear out/sanitize cost the same as the current lowest tier one day admission FP+ an add on if you want to ‘hop’ you could buy tickets for two parks in a day with the 2nd park ticket being 1/2 off

this is just a speculative thought nothing fact based

 

[CampbellzSoup]

I mean it’s not even a rumor Kenny is himself speculating on what he thinks can happen...

 

[rteetz]

I mean it’s not even a rumor Kenny is himself speculating on what he thinks can happen...

Disney is exploring a modified park experience to be deployed as soon as park reopening is possible

Its a definite possibility. I would argue more likely than not.

 

[CampbellzSoup]

Disney is exploring a modified park experience to be deployed as soon as park reopening is possible

Its a definite possibility. I would argue more likely than not.

Eliminating fireworks? That’s a hallmark of Disney.

 

[DGsAtBLT]

As we all know, part of what draws so many people to Disney is the ability to leave the real world behind. I wonder what some of these measures would do to the feel of the parks. Hard to compare to after 9/11, aside from any increased security anything happening in park wasn't directly tied to 9/11 but the resulting economic and tourism impacts. A lot of this stuff might be anxiety inducing and a reminder of things people are trying to escape. I don't know how well that would go over.

Obviously people can choose to go if this did happen, and even more obviously there are more pressing things to be concerned with at the moment, but just a passing thought I had.

 

[rteetz]

Eliminating fireworks? That’s a hallmark of Disney.

I don't think we will know what exactly Disney will go with when the parks reopen but I have to imagine everything will be on the table like discussed in other threads. Hallmark or not we are in uncharted territory.

 

[jade1]

After this I would settle for a walk down Main Street USA.

 

[Krandor]

I don't think we will know what exactly Disney will go with when the parks reopen but I have to imagine everything will be on the table like discussed in other threads. Hallmark or not we are in uncharted territory.

Unfortunately I agree. I don't think anything is off the table.

I hope some of these drugs like that malaria one wind up working so we can end this whole thing quicker But that may be wishful thinking.

 

[SaintsManiac]

In this new economy, they are going to have to adapt or get left behind. Greed just isn’t going to be tolerated anymore. People’s values are changing as rapidly as their incomes.

Or you can be a total hypocrite like I am. I swore "never again" on a deluxe resort, but now I am planning Boardwalk for next year. This pandemic obviously has made me lose my mind.

It's made me want to go more than ever before. I suspect there are others like me out there.

 

[1lilspark]

Is it bad that I’m hoping that if RunDisney’s November race is still on and we keep our room only that we get an upgrade (even if it’s just to a preferred vs standard room at the same resort)

 

[Mainsail Minnie]

The big question then would be:
Does WDW-lite = Ticket Price-lite

They will not lower ticket prices.

For one thing, I don't think they want the parks to be stuffed to the gills anytime soon because of the virus. It will actually help WDW to reopen if every coupon-clipper in America isn't trying to storm the gates because they just got bargain-priced tickets.

For another thing, lowering ticket prices would create discontent among those who already have purchased tickets at higher prices. It is much more likely that they won't raise ticket prices sharply for quite a while, than it is that they would lower them.

And for another thing, greed.

 

[Mainsail Minnie]

Of all of the places I could visit in America to have the best chance of catching CV, I would think that WDW would be #1 on the list - over Vegas casinos, Times Square, anywhere! This thing will have to be managed before they reopen at all.

Or rather, people who are at high-risk of complications from the virus are going to have to choose not to go. and those who go should be meticulous about hygeine, and avoid being around people in high-risk groups after the trip. Some personal responsibility and thoughtfulness can take the place of everyone in the country living under house arrest and the economy being a shambles.

 

[SaintsManiac]

They will not lower ticket prices.

For one thing, I don't think they want the parks to be stuffed to the gills anytime soon because of the virus. It will actually help WDW to reopen if every coupon-clipper in America isn't trying to storm the gates because they just got bargain-priced tickets.

For another thing, lowering ticket prices would create discontent among those who already have purchased tickets at higher prices. It is much more likely that they won't raise ticket prices sharply for quite a while, than it is that they would lower them.

And for another thing, greed.

So a company that had to shut down most of its revenue is greedy for not lowering ticket prices when they finally reopen? So confused by this train of thought.

 

[Mainsail Minnie]

So a company that had to shut down most of its revenue is greedy for not lowering ticket prices when they finally reopen? So confused by this train of thought.

I'm sorry you find something as basic and obvious as Disney's greed confusing. The Disney corporation has proven itself to be greedy over the past several years. That is not up for debate if you're been familiar with their operations and pricing over the past 10 years or so. You don't have to be a Disney-hater (I'm not) to know that 1 + 1 = 2.

That said, I did give two other reasons that I think Disney wouldn't lower ticket prices. Do I think greed is part of the equation? Yep.

 

[Krandor]

Or rather, people who are at high-risk of complications from the virus are going to have to choose not to go. and those who go should be meticulous about hygeine, and avoid being around people in high-risk groups after the trip. Some personal responsibility and thoughtfulness can take the place of everyone in the country living under house arrest and the economy being in a shambles.

High risk is hard to define. It isn't just 60+. There are a lot of people under 60 that are still needing to go to the hospital. So just saying high risk shouldn't go isn't going to work. Just like disability high risk isn't always visibility. Somebody with asthma.. somebody who had cancer 10 years ago and survived... You don't know who is and isn't high risk and who is and isn't likely to go to the hospital.

 

[rteetz]

I'm sorry you find something as basic and obvious as Disney's greed confusing. The Disney corporation has proven itself to be greedy over the past several years. That is not up for debate if you're been familiar with their operations and pricing over the past 10 years or so. You don't have to be a Disney-hater (I'm not) to know that 1 + 1 = 2.

That said, I did give two other reasons that I think Disney wouldn't lower ticket prices. Do I think greed is part of the equation? Yep.

I don’t recall Disney lowering prices after 9/11. Obviously discounts yes which I think we will see again with this but I don’t think ticket prices themselves will be lowered. I wouldn’t consider that greedy either.

 

[mmackeymouse]

I don't think we will know what exactly Disney will go with when the parks reopen but I have to imagine everything will be on the table like discussed in other threads. Hallmark or not we are in uncharted territory.

Absolutely, I understand this is uncharted territory. And, I would understand temporarily shutting down fireworks in the interim. But, the jarring thing here is the word used is "eliminate" not "suspend." Eliminate is permanent. Suspend is for the time being. And the word "eliminate" is not wording that I would expect to be thrown around willy nilly.

For right now? Sure, I would understand fireworks being off the table for a while. But, forever? I guess I don't see the benefit long-term in getting rid of very popular nighttime entertainment.

For another thing, lowering ticket prices would create discontent among those who already have purchased tickets at higher prices. It is much more likely that they won't raise ticket prices sharply for quite a while, than it is that they would lower them.

And for another thing, greed.

The discontent is going to be there anyway, and understandably so. Yes, lowering ticket prices would upset people who had already purchased those tickets at a higher price. BUT, if you don't do anything at all, and leave the prices the same...those same people are going to be upset that they paid those prices for a stripped down experience.

I would say the best way to handle it would be to lower the prices AND refund people with existing tickets a fair rate.

Or perhaps those with existing tickets get the choice between a partial refund OR 3 additional fastpasses per day on their tickets, for a total of 6 initially. Logistically I don't know how to make it happen; I honestly think most people would take the FPs

 

[bookwormde]

while I do not see current ticket prices being reduced, I could see a variety of ticket/access schemes being added during the restart

disruption is often the trigger for innovation

 

[mshanson3121]

And I'm expecting it. It looks like 12-18 months for any vaccine. Things will need to re-open before then once it looks like things are under control and cases are dropping but even then places that open are going to still need to have precautions. So a WDW-Lite with much lower caps on attendence and lower numbers of people on a ride/atraction/show are very possible. Things like virtual Queues though might be a good longer term strategy since nobody likes standing in line.

The time period between when cases start to drop and when there is an actual vaccine are going to be very interesting and there may be some things done during that period that stay around as a good idea. From a WDW perspective if somebody can go to 7DMT tap in and get told line in 70 minutes and come back then and can then go grab lunch in a 50% capacity place and come back in 70 minutes and almost walk right on people may like that and want it to continue even after there is a vaccine.

A lot is going to change over the next year or two.

This makes me so glad we got our trip in last May before this all happened. The future changes worry me.

 

[vinotinto]

High risk is hard to define. It isn't just 60+. There are a lot of people under 60 that are still needing to go to the hospital. So just saying high risk shouldn't go isn't going to work. Just like disability high risk isn't always visibility. Somebody with asthma.. somebody who had cancer 10 years ago and survived... You don't know who is and isn't high risk and who is and isn't likely to go to the hospital.

I think that this was her point too - that everyone who is high risk will need to take some responsibility for maintaining social isolation, even when businesses reopen. These are ALL high risk groups.

Edited to avoid confusion. Please see this for the latest on high risk groups. But, understand that the official lists are not complete. For example, they usually don't include being male or diseases you may have outgrown, but currently unclear weather they would impact COVID risk:
https://www.disboards.com/threads/r...-disney-reopens.3797114/page-11#post-61770248