Rumor about “modified experiences” when Disney reopens (read 1st post for potential modifications being considered)

[yulilin3]

Ugh, I hate to be that person that bring up "masks" again, but I think it's important to know what WDW is telling their CMs about it. This is from the HUB:

As you know, many of our Cast Members are now wearing face coverings while working on property during the closure period. While a face covering provides some benefit, it’s important to remember that the best way to help prevent infection continues to be avoiding exposure to the virus and remaining vigilant about preventing the spread of germs.

Here are some key messages to reinforce with your Cast:

• When wearing a face covering, it’s still important to continue practicing preventive measures such as staying home when you are ill, frequent handwashing and, when possible, social distancing by staying at least 6 feet apart from others, particularly for prolonged periods of 10 minutes or more.
• It is important to properly put on, wear and remove a face covering.
  • Reusable face coverings should be changed or laundered daily.
  • Cast Members should always wash their hands with soap and water for at least 20 seconds before putting on their face coverings. If soap and water are not readily available, a hand sanitizer that contains at least 60% alcohol may be used.
  • Cast Members should avoid touching the front of the face covering during the removal process as it may be contaminated. They should also be careful not to touch their eyes, nose, and mouth and wash hands immediately after.
  • At the end of the work day, disposable face coverings should be disposed of in a trash bag and closed trash bin, and reusable face coverings should be kept in a bag until they can be laundered.
  • For more details on how to properly wear and remove a face covering, please see the attached Leader Reference Guide.
• A face covering is not intended to protect the wearer, but it may prevent the spread of the virus from the wearer to others. This is especially important if someone is infected but does not have symptoms. Their primary role is to reduce the release of infectious particles into the air when someone speaks, coughs, or sneezes, including someone who has COVID-19 but feels well.

 

[yulilin3]

I do still expect busineses to do everything they can to keep things clean. If going to a business means I need to treat everything here as if it is biohard material I'd rather not go. there are some areas like railings where there isn't a lot they can do but IMO they should make sure the popcorn container they give me is clean, the credit card reader is clean, clean chairs between showings, etc. If I have to do all that myself then IMO it kinda negates the purpose of going out in the first place. if a theater isn't cleaning seats in between showings, I'm not going to go to that theater. When I start going back to places it is likely going to be on a business my business bassis. Those I think are doing a good job of keeping things clean and safe I'll go to. Those that are not I won't.

Of course, and I can assure you Disney will do everything they can to keep areas and surfaces as clean as possible.
BUT
you cannot solely depend on that to stay healthy.
When I was working at the airport I would see the custodial staff clean everything, constantly, even the seats BUT I still used my wipes on the seat I was going to use anyways, just as a preventive measure. It took less than a minute.
I'm more aware now of not touching railings, or escalator railings or anything I really don't NEED to touch, of course this is harder with kids, this is where the parent has to be more aware as well.
I shared a story right before the parks closed, my DD works for Hondo at MFSR she was in the holding room and was asking everyone for their assignment card (pilot, engineer...) a kid had the card in his mouth. When my DD asked for it the kid just motioned she could grab it from his mouth, my DD looked at the parents and they were just laughing about it. So she had to take the card out of the child's mouth. Right after that she wiped down the card and used hand sanitizer.
To me the lessons of this story are: we are all in this together, if we want to go to Disney we HAVE TO be more aware, it will take some practice but it can be done. Also, if we don't want to be more aware then don't visit and save yourself the "trouble" of being aware.
And for those that will inevitably say that people going to WDW will bring the virus back into their communities, open your eyes, the virus is in your communities already and you risk infection by going anywhere and NOT taking precautions

 

[DGsAtBLT]

And round and round we go again.

I am not scared. I want this to be as painless as it can be. I want us to be able to safely resume life sooner than later. Companies taking precautions to prevent spread helps all of us as a society. This is not about getting sick on an individual level.

If personal responsibility and worrying about yourself was all that mattered Disney would already be open.

 

[WallEFan00]

Im not worried about ME and my personal responsibility. I am worried about YOU (not literally you) not being responsible. There’s only so much I can do.

Also, I might not go. But that doesn’t mean my neighbor isn’t going to go. Or my daughter’s teacher. Or my co-worker. That is how the virus spreads.

Remember "enter at your own risk". Part of personal responsibility is to decide for yourself what an acceptable amount of risk would be. Certainly we all have a different acceptance of risk. If I go to a trampoline park, I have to sign a waiver that I accept that injury is a possible outcome and it is not the fault of the establishment to ensure all risks are removed. There is a level of risk inherent in all endeavors.

I would be fine with Disney implementing a waiver that states: by entering the parks, I accept the risk that I may be exposed to unintended consequences such as illness or injury. I acknowledge that the Disney corporation is doing the part to minimize risks to guests.

 

[Tigger's ally]

I would be fine with Disney implementing a waiver that states: by entering the parks, I accept the risk that I may be exposed to unintended consequences such as illness or injury. I acknowledge that the Disney corporation is doing the part to minimize risks to guests.

Was fine until you put the word "injury" in there. That's a broad topic to say the least.

 

[yankeesfan123]

Remember "enter at your own risk". Part of personal responsibility is to decide for yourself what an acceptable amount of risk would be. Certainly we all have a different acceptance of risk. If I go to a trampoline park, I have to sign a waiver that I accept that injury is a possible outcome and it is not the fault of the establishment to ensure all risks are removed. There is a level of risk inherent in all endeavors.

I would be fine with Disney implementing a waiver that states: by entering the parks, I accept the risk that I may be exposed to unintended consequences such as illness or injury. I acknowledge that the Disney corporation is doing the part to minimize risks to guests.

I’m more concerned with the thousands of other humans who will be affected than just me...

 

[yulilin3]

And round and round we go again.

I am not scared. I want this to be as painless as it can be. I want us to be able to safely resume life sooner than later. Companies taking precautions to prevent spread helps all of us as a society. This is not about getting sick on an individual level.

If personal responsibility and worrying about yourself was all that mattered Disney would already be open.

I've read your post a couple of times, and I have to disagree, to me at least, it is about individual health. If I don't get sick then you will not get sick from me. If I take precautions on not getting sick and you do the same, we have nothing to worry about. The issue is when people don't take personal responsibility, which is the main problem when reopening anything, from a small store to a large destination. If we, as individuals, are not on the same page then there is risk.
Ad that goes with absolutely everything in life.
Since we cannot control what others do, then I have to make sure I am doing what I can to not get sick

 

[BryGuy415]

Remember "enter at your own risk". Part of personal responsibility is to decide for yourself what an acceptable amount of risk would be. Certainly we all have a different acceptance of risk. If I go to a trampoline park, I have to sign a waiver that I accept that injury is a possible outcome and it is not the fault of the establishment to ensure all risks are removed. There is a level of risk inherent in all endeavors.

I would be fine with Disney implementing a waiver that states: by entering the parks, I accept the risk that I may be exposed to unintended consequences such as illness or injury. I acknowledge that the Disney corporation is doing the part to minimize risks to guests.

You already accept those terms of risk when purchasing a ticket

 

[lilypgirl]

Of course, and I can assure you Disney will do everything they can to keep areas and surfaces as clean as possible.
BUT
you cannot solely depend on that to stay healthy.
When I was working at the airport I would see the custodial staff clean everything, constantly, even the seats BUT I still used my wipes on the seat I was going to use anyways, just as a preventive measure. It took less than a minute.
I'm more aware now of not touching railings, or escalator railings or anything I really don't NEED to touch, of course this is harder with kids, this is where the parent has to be more aware as well.
I shared a story right before the parks closed, my DD works for Hondo at MFSR she was in the holding room and was asking everyone for their assignment card (pilot, engineer...) a kid had the card in his mouth. When my DD asked for it the kid just motioned she could grab it from his mouth, my DD looked at the parents and they were just laughing about it. So she had to take the card out of the child's mouth. Right after that she wiped down the card and used hand sanitizer.
To me the lessons of this story are: we are all in this together, if we want to go to Disney we HAVE TO be more aware, it will take some practice but it can be done. Also, if we don't want to be more aware then don't visit and save yourself the "trouble" of being aware.
And for those that will inevitably say that people going to WDW will bring the virus back into their communities, open your eyes, the virus is in your communities already and you risk infection by going anywhere and NOT taking precautions

That kids a brat!

 

[DGsAtBLT]

I've read your post a couple of times, and I have to disagree, to me at least, it is about individual health. If I don't get sick then you will not get sick from me. If I take precautions on not getting sick and you do the same, we have nothing to worry about. The issue is when people don't take personal responsibility, which is the main problem when reopening anything, from a small store to a large destination. If we, as individuals, are not on the same page then there is risk.
Ad that goes with absolutely everything in life.
Since we cannot control what others do, then I have to make sure I am doing what I can to not get sick

Since we cannot control others, and we have been shown time and time again there are a large portion of people that will not behave responsibly, we need governments and corporations to do their part to prevent people who will not act responsibly from harming the rest of us.

I could go to a movie theatre and do my absolute best to not get sick. Probably a decent shot I’m successful. But if 20 other people go and do nothing to stay safe, and the theatre is not cleaned properly, and is contaminated by one or more people, then the spread continues in my city despite my own good decisions. And I’m not concerned that this spread means I get sick, but that closures and the like continue.

 

[Mit88]

Since we cannot control others, and we have been shown time and time again there are a large portion of people that will not behave responsibly, we need governments and corporations to do their part to prevent people who will not act responsibly from harming the rest of us.

I could go to a movie theatre and do my absolute best to not get sick. Probably a decent shot I’m successful. But if 20 other people go and do nothing to stay safe, and the theatre is not cleaned properly, and is contaminated by one or more people, then the spread continues in my city despite my own good decisions. And I’m not concerned that this spread means I get sick, but that closures and the like continue.

Theres only downside (lawsuits, fines and closures) with not keeping the theater cleaned. When they open, places like Movie theaters, Restaurants, Bars will be monitored heavily to ensure they’re following guidelines of cleanliness.

 

[lilypgirl]

I just want an ice cream flight from Ample Hills! Is that too much for a girl to ask?

 

[WallEFan00]

You already accept those terms of risk when purchasing a ticket

I agree. My point is that some people need it spelled out. When I have gone to Disney World, I have always been exposed to an infinite number of viruses and germs from around the world. I know and accept that. It just seems that there is a large number of people that treat this as something new. It's a new virus, not a new scenario.

 

[BryGuy415]

I agree. My point is that some people need it spelled out. When I have gone to Disney World, I have always been exposed to an infinite number of viruses and germs from around the world. I know and accept that. It just seems that there is a large number of people that treat this as something new. It's a new virus, not a new scenario.

I would agree with you too in that, although not additionally needed, they'll still probably make you acknowledge in some way that you are taking an additional risk by entering their parks, hotels, etc. to help the ignorant. Someone will still sue...

 

[Chris Ehlers]

I think your premise is dead on, but that’s why I think instead of reservations, the first couple of weeks will be resorts only. That way WDW can know the number of guests and regulate them much easier than even if they allow in APs. And i think they’ll have a real issue if they dont allow resort guests in.

I agree with you...........I posted earlier on here that they would open MK with just the Resort Guest staying on the Monorail loop....GF, Poly, Contemp and BL. That is about 3100 rooms and villas if you avg 4-6 guests per that would give you 12,500-18600 per which would be manageable. it would also give them the ability to do a virtual que and operate like the After Hours events. they could also do a limited number of rides with strict FP time windows to allow smooth on and off. the last thing they could do is operate the restaurants with a fixed price per meal with limited offerings and with a set time to dine like on DCL. this would give time for the Restaurants to get up to speed as well. also if the walkway is finished from Poly and GF no transportation is needed....just my two cents as i have done a few opening and launcehs of new things in the past

 

[elle21]

I do realize 50% capacity is a lot of people. I also know 50% capacity won't allow 6 feet distancing so I don't think that will be opening capacity caps. Just because they can do 50% doesn't mean they will or should.

I really don’t think they’ll be policing 6 foot distance in all the parks. They’ll recommend it and allow people to manage it themselves. And they’ll have line spacing stickers, etc. but I think it will be like all the stores right now. You do your best to give people space. However you will come closer to some people.

 

[Eric Smith]

You already accept those terms of risk when purchasing a ticket

I was wondering about this. I figured you did. It doesn't absolve Disney completely (i.e. in the case of negligence) but as long as they put in reasonable measures they would be protected.

 

[TheMaxRebo]

Of course, and I can assure you Disney will do everything they can to keep areas and surfaces as clean as possible.
BUT
you cannot solely depend on that to stay healthy.
When I was working at the airport I would see the custodial staff clean everything, constantly, even the seats BUT I still used my wipes on the seat I was going to use anyways, just as a preventive measure. It took less than a minute.
I'm more aware now of not touching railings, or escalator railings or anything I really don't NEED to touch, of course this is harder with kids, this is where the parent has to be more aware as well.
I shared a story right before the parks closed, my DD works for Hondo at MFSR she was in the holding room and was asking everyone for their assignment card (pilot, engineer...) a kid had the card in his mouth. When my DD asked for it the kid just motioned she could grab it from his mouth, my DD looked at the parents and they were just laughing about it. So she had to take the card out of the child's mouth. Right after that she wiped down the card and used hand sanitizer.
To me the lessons of this story are: we are all in this together, if we want to go to Disney we HAVE TO be more aware, it will take some practice but it can be done. Also, if we don't want to be more aware then don't visit and save yourself the "trouble" of being aware.
And for those that will inevitably say that people going to WDW will bring the virus back into their communities, open your eyes, the virus is in your communities already and you risk infection by going anywhere and NOT taking precautions

that is a great example of the type of behavior that went one - and to be honest, likey will still go on even if to a lesser extent

Like you said we all are in this together, but I don't think we can rely on people to be "in it together" vs themselves and having the guidelines for at least level set expectations.

So if Disney sets guidelines for what they think people should do and they then get followed 85% that is better than leaving it up people on their own and things aren't followed as well. But so that shouldn't necessitate that Disney bans people for life if they are only 5ft vs 6ft away from someone else

Personal responsibility can/will help .... Disney encouraging certain behavior can/will help .... BOTH will help more

but never be 100% safe and everyone has to decide when the risk/reward is worth it for them

 

[peaceluv&mickeymouse]

Why does such a simple concept get lost on people?
Personal responsibility, that.is.it.
You want to go places and lower your risk of infection? Take matters into your own hands
Companies will do their part, you do yours
If you are still afraid of infection don't go. So easy

This is exactly right. Disney will do what they can, you choose if the risk is worth it and do your part to protect yourselves And others as much as possible. There is no magic switch to keep everyone 100% safe. If your not comfortable , then stay home. Things will open, already begun.

 

[xuxa777]

I really don’t think they’ll be policing 6 foot distance in all the parks. They’ll recommend it and allow people to manage it themselves. And they’ll have line spacing stickers, etc. but I think it will be like all the stores right now. You do your best to give people space. However you will come closer to some people.

This, look at how little the enforcement was last year or so when a full on fight broke out at Disneyland Toontown for 5-10 minutes with no interaction from security until officers showed up, with Disney cast members watching. Disney will not have CM's enforcing the rules just suggesting.