Rumor about “modified experiences” when Disney reopens (read 1st post for potential modifications being considered)

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All I saw was some tweets. I just checked their team member website and saw nothing. If true, I find it odd they haven't said anything about a re-opening next Monday.

could be some 3rd part places are opening but not universal locations? If a 3rd party that is paying rent wants to open universal may have a hard time saying they can’t.
 
I trust Disney will do the right thing with safety and that is why i believe we will have at least 2-4 weeks notice before almost anything opens. They will first need to order a ton of PPE, hand sanitizer, thermometers, etc. There are currently National shortages of many items. Then they will need to recall tens of thousands of furloughed employees and provide safety training (remember many of the cast members are in the older age groups and based on the overall guidance should not be in social settings). There will also be a significant amount of reconfiguration needed to assist with social distancing. With these factors any opening will be well known in advance.

Disney will also have to staff up customer service for all of the complaints that will be made. I paid $100+ for a ticket to get my temp taken after waiting in line 3 hours in line in the heat and humidity in August? I do feel bad for Disney - there are no easy answers until there are therapeutics or a vaccine.
 
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could be some 3rd part places are opening but not universal locations? If a 3rd party that is paying rent wants to open universal may have a hard time saying they can’t.
I'm trying to think which locations would be actual universal locations - possibly very few??
 

I'm trying to think which locations would be actual universal locations - possibly very few??

More than you think. Off the top of my head, I know the Toothsome is, Cowfish, Bob Marley, some of the quick service places, Voodoo, Cinnabon, Starbucks, etc.
 
I agree, which is why I wrote yesterday that a June 1st opening seemed so unlikely since Disney had not called any front line staff back for their next schedule period. That leaves only a week or so prior to June 1st where front line staff would be called back. There are so many considerations and procedures that will need to be updated and discriminated. I can't see how all that can be done in just one week. I'm a logistics coordinator of sorts where I work, so I'm viewing this from that standpoint.

Yeah in effect you have to do things like look at everything a guest of employee HAS to touch and decide if it can be removed, can you limit number of people touching it and/or put measures in place to clean it between people using it. That is fingerprint scanners, pos terminals, lap bars, salt shakers, etc etc. it’s a lot. But everywhere changes can be made they should.

some things people don’t have to touch like a railing there isn’t a ton Disney can do and will be up to guests to not touch or clean after if they do.

then there are real problematic things like water fountains. I think you have to turn them off and add water carts with cast members who just serve water.

its a lot but with good procedures Disney can be made mostly safe. Just takes time to figure them out and implement them.
 
Let me first preface this with info from a furloughed cast member and therefore not official. According to his manager Disney will reopen when the state releases the 50% capacity level. Disney will not open at the 25% level. Cannot speculate on the timing to reach the 50% level. Simply wanted to share.
Well according to state guidelines Theme parks can open with 50% level at Phase 1

It's the restaurants and hotels that are 25% in Phase 1

Now the state can make exceptions for Disney World.
 
California enters phase 2 of reopening on Friday. Their phase 2 is the same as most states phase 1. Restaurants, hair salons, etc. Maybe Disneyland opens before Disney World at this rate lol
 
Wow, well, I think that pretty much takes care of the arguments made by some that why would Disney not reopen in June if they are taking reservations and offering free dining to canceled guests, starting June 1st.

My argument has been and still is, Disney would not have put out the free dining to cancelled guests out if they didn't have what they considered to be a reasonable belief that they could open. I really haven't read many posts that think just taking reservations proves they're going to be open or even offering the discount proves it. It just proves they thought at the time they could. All that happens in that video is Disney not wanting to release any information and unless he specifically said taking reservations doesn't equal opening, after what the head of the task force said, then we'd all assume that's exactly what it mean. This was just a neither confirm or deny. I agree, they were taking regular reservations almost up to the moment they closed. But they weren't putting out a new offer to guests who had already been cancelled. Even Universal, who a lot of people think are on track to open June 1 clearly denied any known date of opening.

Does that mean they are definitely opening June 1? Nope. But nothing in that meeting gave any indication one way or the other of what their plans are. I'm sure they have a target date, but they aren't going to tell us until they are as close to 100% sure as they can be. When Disney says "we have no news we can share", that means they have news, they're just not sharing it.
 
Probably shoud post this hear too since it does affect modified operations, iaapa (international association for amusement parks and attractions) has released a set of guidelines for reopening. Universal, Six Flags, Cedar Fair, Seaworld all participated (disney not listed). Interesting reading on their suggestions and reccomendations.


https://www.iaapa.org/sites/default/files/2020-05/IAAPA_COVID-19_ReopeningGuidance_rev1_final.pdf
And, again, if you would have told me a year ago I would be skimming through a 36-page document on theme park guidelines, I would have said "no way." And yet, here we are.

Some of the portions of the document that seemed most relevant to our discussion (underlining is all mine).

Topline Considerations for Reopening:
1. Allow healthy people to enjoy the facility and encourage the use of masks/face coverings for guests and staff.​
2. Provide means to wash/sanitize hands frequently.​
3. Manage density of people within the facility to keep people or family units that have been isolating together 6 feet (2 meters) apart. Physical distancing guidelines may vary by region and can be reduced by wearing of masks/ face coverings—ensure your plan is aligned with local official guidance.​
4. Reduce touch areas where possible and sanitize high touch surfaces frequently.​
5. Protect employees with various approaches, including barriers, protective coverings, and distancing.​
6. Communicate with employees and guests effectively on how to prevent the spread of germs.​
7. Have a plan in the event a guest or employee falls ill on site.​

WHY ATTRACTIONS ARE DIFFERENT FROM OTHER MASS GATHERINGS
It is important to remember the difference between attractions and other venues for mass gatherings such as sports arenas, movie theaters, and concerts:
1. Capacity can be reduced/managed to allow for appropriate social distancing.​
2. Seating positions in rides and attractions are controlled by employees.​
3. Exposure time is limited. Guests generally move throughout their experience, much like in an inter-city district or zone. The guests are not sitting in a single location, elbow-to-elbow, for an extended period.​
4. A large percentage of attraction attendance is made up of family members and others who live in the same home and thus do not need to be physically distanced from each other.​

GUEST COMMUNICATION
1. Consider the importance of warning guests about the risk of contracting COVID19 in any public space, including posting signs/messages like the following example:
We are committed to keeping you healthy and safe, but we cannot guarantee you won’t be exposed to COVID-19.
We rely on you to protect yourself too:

• Wash your hands often and avoid touching your face
• Maintain your distance from others
• Cover your mouth and nose
• Avoid touching surfaces
• If you’re sick, please don’t participate and encourage your family not to participate until you are well.

2. Signs with health and hygiene reminders should be visible throughout the property

3. Communicate new operational procedures to guests prior to arrival, on the attraction’s website, and through social media to establish expectations and instill confidence, including:
a. Identifying COVID-19 symptoms and messaging that asks guest to come back another day if anyone in their party is experiencing the symptoms​
b. Directives on wearing masks/ face coverings for employees and guests​
c. Physical distancing guidelines​
d. Capacity limits that facilitate social distancing​
e. Enhanced cleaning and sanitizing protocols​
f. Use of temperature checks/thermal scanning cameras (if required)​

PHYSICAL DISTANCING: CALCULATING CAPACITIES
Identify realistic capacities for your attractions based on queue length, waiting areas, pre-shows, and vehicle capacity, adjusted to allow for 6 feet (2 meters) of physical distancing between individuals. This calculates to a 36-square-foot (4 square meters/per person) square or 28.3-square-foot circle per person. Both calculations maintain six feet between individuals. The 28.3-square-foot circle calculation accounts for a more efficient use of the space.

FACE MASKS/CLOTH FACE COVERINGS
The wearing of face masks or cloth face coverings (covering nose and mouth) provides an additional level of safety for guests and employees and reduces the likelihood of contagious virus droplets transferring from one person to another. Masks/ face coverings should also fit well without gaps on the sides, top, or bottom. It is also important to note that some people should not wear masks/ face coverings. The CDC in the United States cautions that cloth face coverings should not be placed on children younger than 2 years of age, anyone who has trouble breathing, or is unconscious, incapacitated, or otherwise unable to remove the cover without assistance (see link below.) As a result, those individuals may not be able to experience some attractions.

Face masks or cloth face coverings provide additional safety for guests and employees. Guests should be encouraged to wear them, particularly in these circumstances:
a. When interacting with attraction employees​
b. In areas where it would be difficult to maintain at least 6 feet (2 meters) of physical distance from others including in elevators, indoor locations, or in other confined spaces​
c. On rides (note that due to the dynamics of some attractions, loose fitting masks/face coverings may not be permitted. See Rides and Attractions section below.)​
HEALTH SCREENING/TEMPERATURE CHECKS
Due to the unreliable nature of advance screening and temperature checks, particularly in outdoor environments, they are not recommended as a primary operating principle. Some government agencies may require them and specify how they are to be managed, however. In the absence of those mandates, here are operating guidelines to consider.
1. If you are conducting health screenings, you may want to ensure they are done for guests, employees, vendors, contractors, and visitors.​
2. Screening locations should be positioned as close to an individual’s point of entry to the property as possible and away from other security or admissions operations.​
3. Screening areas should be set up in compliance with physical distancing protocols.​
4. Screening should be conducted with discretion and to maintain privacy. Facilities are encouraged to review, understand, and comply with the applicable legal requirements regarding the maintenance and storage of health information for employees and guests.​
5. Those performing initial screenings do not need to be medical professionals but should be trained on the screening procedure. They should wear the appropriate Personal Protective Equipment (PPE.) That may include gowns, surgical masks, eye protection, and gloves.​
6. Health screening forms may be helpful to determine if someone has been exposed to COVID-19 or if they are experiencing symptoms. Consult with local health experts to identify the correct questions to ask.​
7. Temperature should be below 100.4 F (38 C) according to the U.S. Centers for Disease Control. (https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019- ncov/downloads/COVID-19_CAREKit_ENG.pdf) If temperature is above that threshold, the individual should be given a mask/ face covering and moved to an isolation area or room for further evaluation. Make sure you are using accurate temperature-taking devices and understand that instrument’s limitations (+/- .01 can be significant) as well as the conditions under which the device may provide an inaccurate reading.​
8. This isolation area should be separate from the initial screening area and provide a climate-controlled environment.​
9. Additional testing and evaluation should include a second temperature check to confirm the initial result and a review of symptoms.
10.According to the U.S. Centers for Disease Control, (https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/symptoms-testing/symptoms.html as of April 25, 2020), COVID-19 symptoms include: fever 100.4 F/38 C or higher, cough, shortness of breath or difficulty breathing, chills, repeated shaking with chills, muscle pain, headache, sore throat, and a new loss of taste or smell.​
11.If the individual still presents a concern following the second screening, he/she and his/her entire party (including all family members/people living in the same household, or employees who live in the same household or commute together) should be denied entry to the attraction and given guidance to seek medical care.

Then, there's a ton of guidelines for admission and entry and payment to maximize social distance and sanitation and cleaning.
 
California enters phase 2 of reopening on Friday. Their phase 2 is the same as most states phase 1. Restaurants, hair salons, etc. Maybe Disneyland opens before Disney World at this rate lol
CA Phase 2 is more strict than most states Phase 1 lol. Hair salons don’t open until Phase 3. Phase 2 allows florists to open for curbside- magical getting that opened Fri before Mother’s Day. This version of Phase 2 does not include restaurants. See it straight from the governor here.
 
And, again, if you would have told me a year ago I would be skimming through a 36-page document on theme park guidelines, I would have said "no way." And yet, here we are.

Some of the portions of the document that seemed most relevant to our discussion (underlining is all mine).

Topline Considerations for Reopening:
1. Allow healthy people to enjoy the facility and encourage the use of masks/face coverings for guests and staff.​
2. Provide means to wash/sanitize hands frequently.​
3. Manage density of people within the facility to keep people or family units that have been isolating together 6 feet (2 meters) apart. Physical distancing guidelines may vary by region and can be reduced by wearing of masks/ face coverings—ensure your plan is aligned with local official guidance.​
4. Reduce touch areas where possible and sanitize high touch surfaces frequently.​
5. Protect employees with various approaches, including barriers, protective coverings, and distancing.​
6. Communicate with employees and guests effectively on how to prevent the spread of germs.​
7. Have a plan in the event a guest or employee falls ill on site.​

WHY ATTRACTIONS ARE DIFFERENT FROM OTHER MASS GATHERINGS
It is important to remember the difference between attractions and other venues for mass gatherings such as sports arenas, movie theaters, and concerts:
1. Capacity can be reduced/managed to allow for appropriate social distancing.​
2. Seating positions in rides and attractions are controlled by employees.​
3. Exposure time is limited. Guests generally move throughout their experience, much like in an inter-city district or zone. The guests are not sitting in a single location, elbow-to-elbow, for an extended period.​
4. A large percentage of attraction attendance is made up of family members and others who live in the same home and thus do not need to be physically distanced from each other.​

GUEST COMMUNICATION
1. Consider the importance of warning guests about the risk of contracting COVID19 in any public space, including posting signs/messages like the following example:
We are committed to keeping you healthy and safe, but we cannot guarantee you won’t be exposed to COVID-19.
We rely on you to protect yourself too:

• Wash your hands often and avoid touching your face
• Maintain your distance from others
• Cover your mouth and nose
• Avoid touching surfaces
• If you’re sick, please don’t participate and encourage your family not to participate until you are well.

2. Signs with health and hygiene reminders should be visible throughout the property

3. Communicate new operational procedures to guests prior to arrival, on the attraction’s website, and through social media to establish expectations and instill confidence, including:
a. Identifying COVID-19 symptoms and messaging that asks guest to come back another day if anyone in their party is experiencing the symptoms​
b. Directives on wearing masks/ face coverings for employees and guests​
c. Physical distancing guidelines​
d. Capacity limits that facilitate social distancing​
e. Enhanced cleaning and sanitizing protocols​
f. Use of temperature checks/thermal scanning cameras (if required)​

PHYSICAL DISTANCING: CALCULATING CAPACITIES
Identify realistic capacities for your attractions based on queue length, waiting areas, pre-shows, and vehicle capacity, adjusted to allow for 6 feet (2 meters) of physical distancing between individuals. This calculates to a 36-square-foot (4 square meters/per person) square or 28.3-square-foot circle per person. Both calculations maintain six feet between individuals. The 28.3-square-foot circle calculation accounts for a more efficient use of the space.

FACE MASKS/CLOTH FACE COVERINGS
The wearing of face masks or cloth face coverings (covering nose and mouth) provides an additional level of safety for guests and employees and reduces the likelihood of contagious virus droplets transferring from one person to another. Masks/ face coverings should also fit well without gaps on the sides, top, or bottom. It is also important to note that some people should not wear masks/ face coverings. The CDC in the United States cautions that cloth face coverings should not be placed on children younger than 2 years of age, anyone who has trouble breathing, or is unconscious, incapacitated, or otherwise unable to remove the cover without assistance (see link below.) As a result, those individuals may not be able to experience some attractions.

Face masks or cloth face coverings provide additional safety for guests and employees. Guests should be encouraged to wear them, particularly in these circumstances:
a. When interacting with attraction employees​
b. In areas where it would be difficult to maintain at least 6 feet (2 meters) of physical distance from others including in elevators, indoor locations, or in other confined spaces​
c. On rides (note that due to the dynamics of some attractions, loose fitting masks/face coverings may not be permitted. See Rides and Attractions section below.)​
HEALTH SCREENING/TEMPERATURE CHECKS
Due to the unreliable nature of advance screening and temperature checks, particularly in outdoor environments, they are not recommended as a primary operating principle. Some government agencies may require them and specify how they are to be managed, however. In the absence of those mandates, here are operating guidelines to consider.
1. If you are conducting health screenings, you may want to ensure they are done for guests, employees, vendors, contractors, and visitors.​
2. Screening locations should be positioned as close to an individual’s point of entry to the property as possible and away from other security or admissions operations.​
3. Screening areas should be set up in compliance with physical distancing protocols.​
4. Screening should be conducted with discretion and to maintain privacy. Facilities are encouraged to review, understand, and comply with the applicable legal requirements regarding the maintenance and storage of health information for employees and guests.​
5. Those performing initial screenings do not need to be medical professionals but should be trained on the screening procedure. They should wear the appropriate Personal Protective Equipment (PPE.) That may include gowns, surgical masks, eye protection, and gloves.​
6. Health screening forms may be helpful to determine if someone has been exposed to COVID-19 or if they are experiencing symptoms. Consult with local health experts to identify the correct questions to ask.​
7. Temperature should be below 100.4 F (38 C) according to the U.S. Centers for Disease Control. (https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019- ncov/downloads/COVID-19_CAREKit_ENG.pdf) If temperature is above that threshold, the individual should be given a mask/ face covering and moved to an isolation area or room for further evaluation. Make sure you are using accurate temperature-taking devices and understand that instrument’s limitations (+/- .01 can be significant) as well as the conditions under which the device may provide an inaccurate reading.​
8. This isolation area should be separate from the initial screening area and provide a climate-controlled environment.​
9. Additional testing and evaluation should include a second temperature check to confirm the initial result and a review of symptoms.
10.According to the U.S. Centers for Disease Control, (https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/symptoms-testing/symptoms.html as of April 25, 2020), COVID-19 symptoms include: fever 100.4 F/38 C or higher, cough, shortness of breath or difficulty breathing, chills, repeated shaking with chills, muscle pain, headache, sore throat, and a new loss of taste or smell.​
11.If the individual still presents a concern following the second screening, he/she and his/her entire party (including all family members/people living in the same household, or employees who live in the same household or commute together) should be denied entry to the attraction and given guidance to seek medical care.

Then, there's a ton of guidelines for admission and entry and payment to maximize social distance and sanitation and cleaning.

The temperature thing is actually even better addressed on the last page where it says don’t do temp checks but just assume everybody is positive and build procedures to reduce spread assuming they are.
 
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