rude airplane couples?

[brunette8706]

I'm taller than you (and about the same weight) and never have had a problem with my knees being hit by someone reclining the seat in front of me. Sometimes I have to put my laptop on my lap rather than the tray table--so what? It's called a laptop!

Perhaps you should look into flying carriers who have a bit more pitch. I fly US Air and Continental, and just don't see what all the complaining is about. My 6' husband also has never has his knees banged by someone with a seat in full recline in front of him.

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Anne- Regardless, I'm not going to sit here on a Disney board and argue about the reclining of seats. The SEAT hits my knees. PERIOD. What is that some people refuse to comprehend??? I'm one of the most courteous people around. I can't even cross my legs, it's impossible. With that said people should compromise. Futhermore, I can care less about laptops, I don't take them on planes with me unless need be. BTW what does a laptop have to do with this subject manner? The key issue is that ONCE AGAIN, people should use common courtesy. I will REITERATE once again, I am not asking for them to not recline the seat just don't recline it all the way down where it is against my knees. My LORD!

brunette

 

[MeanLaureen]

Leaning with force against your knees??? Are you 7'6"?

I'm 5'10" tall with a 36" inseam - with the majority of the length of my leg being from the knee to the hip. My knees touch the front of the seat ahead of me. If the seat reclines, it DOES put me in an uncomfortable situation. On one USAir flight when I couldn't get an exit row seat, the lady in front of me rammed my right knee with the metal joint from the food tray. My knee was bleeding and bruised and it was in pain for days. All for a damn 3 inch incline. She wouldn't stop forcing the chair back even though I was begging her that the resistance she was meeting was my knee and that she was hurting me.

Just because you are over 6 feet tall and have not had trouble doesn't mean anything to me. Height has nothing to do with the length of your legs. I've seen plenty of men way over 6ft tall with short legs and short inseams.

I can't believe that anyone could be so freakin' obnoxious as to not care that they are imposing pain on another human being just because they want to recline their seat the whole whopping 3 inches that it might move. This world is becoming a pathetic place with all this "me mentality". Just because you feel you have a "right" to do something... does not make it "right" to do.

 

[JimFitz]

I pay for a seat and it reclines, then I am allowed to recline. I don't see how that is having "an all about me mentality".

I just don't see how people are "Rude" (OP) by doing this.

 

[JimFitz]

I can't believe that anyone could be so freakin' obnoxious as to not care that they are imposing pain on another human being just because they want to recline their seat the whole whopping 3 inches that it might move. This world is becoming a pathetic place with all this "me mentality". Just because you feel you have a "right" to do something... does not make it "right" to do.

I pay for a seat and it reclines, then I am allowed to recline. I don't see how that is having "an all about me mentality".

I just don't see how people are "Rude" (OP) by doing this.

BTW....My wife has legs to her neck (reason I married her ) and she has never had a problem in coach. Come to think of it, I have many friends who fly for business and they have never reported having their knees crushed.

 

[Obi-Wan Pinobi]

Earlier I asked the following questions directed at those who believe in exercising their right to recline their seat back with no apparent courtesy toward the passenger seated behind them. The only response appears to be from someone on the "common courtesy" side, so I'll ask again.

1) Do you think you are entitled to recline your seat back even if it causes the person behind you to be in pain? And I'm not talking mild annoyance or momentary; I'm talking about aggravating a chronic condition (please see post #23 on page 2).

2) If the person behind you said to you "excuse me, but would you please pull your seat back up? I'm in a considerable amount of pain," would you do so?

And please, no response of "fly first class or drive." That does not add to the discussion and is not always an option for everyone.

 

[brunette8706]

I pay for a seat and it reclines, then I am allowed to recline. I don't see how that is having "an all about me mentality".

I just don't see how people are "Rude" (OP) by doing this.
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MAN, Just shoot me!

 

[inkkognito]

I've already answered those questions based on my husband's experience (he has a chronic knee condition)...our fellow passengers have always said YES to 1. and NO to 2. Myself, I have never been asked, but I rarely recline fully; I need a slight recline due to neck problems, but I don't need to put my seat back all the way. When I sleep, I usually take a window seat and lean there.
Barb

 

[PCFriar80]

Might be time to wrap this thread up? It's going no where!!

 

[brunette8706]

Hey! Good idea.

I guess we should all consider ourselves lucky. I mean look at the people in New Orleans, and here we're arguing about a reclining seat on an aircraft.

On another note, I'm going to Disney tomorrow.

 

[DiscussDisney]

One thing to keep in mind folks....if you recline your seat and push back hard on someone and hurt them, that is assault. So keep that in mind when you feel the need to "exercise your right" to recline.

 

[disneyldwjr]

Earlier I asked the following questions directed at those who believe in exercising their right to recline their seat back with no apparent courtesy toward the passenger seated behind them. The only response appears to be from someone on the "common courtesy" side, so I'll ask again.

1) Do you think you are entitled to recline your seat back even if it causes the person behind you to be in pain? And I'm not talking mild annoyance or momentary; I'm talking about aggravating a chronic condition (please see post #23 on page 2).

2) If the person behind you said to you "excuse me, but would you please pull your seat back up? I'm in a considerable amount of pain," would you do so?

And please, no response of "fly first class or drive." That does not add to the discussion and is not always an option for everyone.

1. Entitled? Debatable. In some cases it is my pain or theirs. At that point, perhaps a compromise, if not, I win.
2. Again, that would be a compromise to be reached.
I generally fly SWA and have NEVER had a problem with someone reclining in front of me. I do recline, but, not all the way. If I didn't when I took my nap, my neck would fall forward and I would have a stiff neck at the end of the flight.

 

[ckret01]

If my seat is made to recline then I will for sure recline it and usually do all the way so I can sleep on the plane. But what annoyes me and what I think is rude is when the people BEHIND you keep bumping you seat whether if its in an upright position or reclined because they can't sit still in there seat. Now that's rude in my eyes.

If someone was to ask me to not recline my seat I probably wouldn't and would say if I want to recline my seat then I will UNLESS the person behind me has a broken leg or I can see that they do not fit in their seat then I would have no problem being uncomfortable for the stranger behind me.

Otherwise that rude girl flying on song airlines with her seat reclined might just be me.

 

[monty]

With all due respect to everyones opinions.........it is the captain of the aircraft, not the person who sits in front of you or behind you on an airplane, who has the authority to allow you to "recline your seat down" or "bring your seat up".

 

[Horace Horsecollar]

1) Do you think you are entitled to recline your seat back even if it causes the person behind you to be in pain? And I'm not talking mild annoyance or momentary; I'm talking about aggravating a chronic condition (please see post #23 on page 2).

I think it would be very, very rare for a half inch less knee room (due to reclining the seat) to make the difference between being fine and being in pain. However, if the person behind me made me aware of a legitimate medical condition, I would not want to inflict pain on that person.

2) If the person behind you said to you "excuse me, but would you please pull your seat back up? I'm in a considerable amount of pain," would you do so?

Yes, I would do so.

On the other hand, if the person behind me said, "hey buddy, get your seat back out of my space," I would ask the flight attendant to explain that seats are designed to recline, and that they only need to be in the takeoff/landing position during takeoff and landing.

Somewhere this thread, I mentioned that when I recline my seat, I do so slowly to give the person behind me time to react (reposition their laptop, move their legs, or whatever). I think that's the courteous thing to do.

 

[JimFitz]

1) Do you think you are entitled to recline your seat back even if it causes the person behind you to be in pain? And I'm not talking mild annoyance or momentary; I'm talking about aggravating a chronic condition (please see post #23 on page 2).

No, I do not think I am entitled to do that. That is just mean and I am not a mean person. If there is pain or touching then I would of course move my seat so the person is comfortable. However, when it comes to someone behind me thinking that I am "in their space" that's a different story. Please see the OP's first post. They were not being touched, they wanted to watch a DVD.

2) If the person behind you said to you "excuse me, but would you please pull your seat back up? I'm in a considerable amount of pain," would you do so?

The person would not have to ask, because I would feel their knees or some sort of bump and would turn around and ask if I had hit them and apologize. I would then strike up conversation, buy them a drink, offer them zanax and when they passed out I would recline my seat! Sorry, I couldn't resist. Again, it goes back to being a kind and understanding person. If the person is physically uncomfortable then I would move. But if I look back and see that their legs are no where near the seat and the just want "their space", then recline away!


Please see the OP's first post. They were not being touched, they wanted to watch a DVD.

 

[ExPirateShopGirl]

With all due respect to everyones opinions.........it is the captain of the aircraft, not the person who sits in front of you or behind you on an airplane, who has the authority to allow you to "recline your seat down" or "bring your seat up".

Monty is correct... I can recall a recent flight where a pilot's father was onboard, flying from one coast to the other following invasive vein filter surgery. The passengers in the row immediately ahead of the pilot's father all reclined to the extent that it was painful for the man. After twice asking politely for some additional leg room and being refused, the pilot waited a few minutes after returning to the cockpit and announced that they were expecting some possible turbulence, and for passengers to fasten their seatbelts and return their seats to the upright position until further notice. And no, there was no further notice.

He did apologize for any inconvenience it might have caused.

 

[JimFitz]

Please see the OP's first post. They were not being touched, they wanted to watch a DVD.

 

[JimFitz]

Hey! Good idea.

I guess we should all consider ourselves lucky. I mean look at the people in New Orleans, and here we're arguing about a reclining seat on an aircraft.

On another note, I'm going to Disney tomorrow.

Your right. New Orleans is sinking.

Have a good trip. Good luck on the plane.

 

[brunette8706]

Why thank you JIM. Now can we all compromise?

LOL

On another note, How do I post my picture on here? Anyone know?

Brunette

 

[tlbwriter]

What a polite thing to say!

I guess the vast majority of airline passengers, especially on long flights, are "selfish and thoughtless people" because they recline their seats.

You obviously didn't bother to read my post. I said people who insist on exercising their right to recline as far as the seat will go are being selfish and thoughtless. And perhaps you missed the word "compromise" in my post. If "compromise" isn't in your personal dictionary, let me help you out - it means that each person gives up a little bit of what they want. You recline a little bit. The person behind you keeps some of their space. Neither gets everything they want, but you're both a little happy, instead of one of you being perfectly satisfied and the other being miserable. New concept for ya?