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as soon as the pilot said you could relax, the lady in front of me pushed her chair all the way back, i had to push mine back into my dd seat just to have about 3 inches, i mentioned it to my husband sitting next to me and the womens husband put his back all the way. it was only 2 in the afternoon and we wanted to see our dvd player, didn't have any room to see.
what should i have done, do i ask or ask the flight attendant?
would love some ideas?
 
Why do you think you should have involved a FA?

They had every right to put the seast back. DH and I often snooze, even on afternoon flights. I do try to be considerate, but if I"m tired, the seats going back.

If you want to be assured of having the room, book first class.

Anne
 
Unfortunatly there is not much you can do in this situation. The seat reclines and they are allowed to recline it. You could try explaining it nicely to them but it often falls on deaf ears because they are pushing back because they are squished too.

I once had to ride 5 hours in a plane with a toddler kicking my seat. When I politly explained to the mother he was hurting me she told him to "kick the B**** harder". I was appalled.
 
nliedel said:
I once had to ride 5 hours in a plane with a toddler kicking my seat. When I politly explained to the mother he was hurting me she told him to "kick the B**** harder". I was appalled.
Choose only one:

1. Complain to the flight attendant. This is assault on the part of the mother for not restraining the child and can turn into assault on the part of the airline of the flight crew does not fix the problem.

2. Every time the kid kicks you you turn around and gently pat the kid's head.

Disney hints:
http://members.aol.com/ajaynejr/disney.htm
 

I've never had a problem with limited space when persons seated in front of me reclined their seats. I've actually been quite surprised on how roomy it is for me. But, it may be that I'm not a very big person as I'm under six feet tall. I don't think much of reclining my seat, I just try to do it slowly so as not to be abrupt in case the person behind me is up close or moving.

As far a child kicking the back of your seat and the mother responding like that .. OMG! Definitely the flight attendants can assist with that and at least respectfully mention to the mother that is not appropriate, and frankly verging on criminal behavior to encourage.
 
I am one of those that does recline the seat as I have neck/back issues and sitting straight up for 3+ hours does a horrible thing to me. I also take Dramamine, which means I'm usually semi-conscious for the trip so I do need to try to close my eyes as much as possible. I don't think the couple of inches the seat reclines is intruding a whole lot into the space behind me and I'm sorry if it does, but my neck cannot take it sitting upright.
 
i don't think you complain about this one. You are allowed to put your seat back and my dh normally does as it makes him more comfortable, being 4'11" and pretty compact haha i can squeeze into practically anything. But as far as the seat kicking then you definately should get the flight crew involved if the parent does not want to do anything about it.
 
leanne11 said:
as soon as the pilot said you could relax, the lady in front of me pushed her chair all the way back, i had to push mine back into my dd seat just to have about 3 inches, i mentioned it to my husband sitting next to me and the womens husband put his back all the way. it was only 2 in the afternoon and we wanted to see our dvd player, didn't have any room to see.
what should i have done, do i ask or ask the flight attendant?
would love some ideas?
leanne11,

Airplane seats are designed to recline. They only need to be upright for takeoff and landing. When people in front of you recline, they aren't reclining into your space; they're reclining into their recline space. Economy seats don't recline very far, but they recline enough to make them a little more comfortable.

What should you have done? Well, my advice would be to recline your own seat, make yourself as comfortable as you can, and read or sleep.

The distance between rows in economy is pretty meager. American used to offer More Room Throughout Coach, but they've almost finished phasing that out. However, I haven't been in any economy seat in which it's impossible to use a DVD player or laptop computer if the seat in front is in the reclined position.

Perhaps some day there will be an airline that installs non-reclining seats throughout their fleet and proudly boasts, "Our seats don't recline!" Somehow, I don't think they would be very successful.
 
i did not do anything but i was reading another thread about how pooh sized people should not enter any space of the other person because they paid for the flight too,so why should i be squooshed because she has to be well rested..and when i say no room i couldn't bring down my tray to even put the dvd player on..
i always ask the person behind me if it is ok to put my seat back..
i guess manners are in short supply in econ class...
 
leanne11 said:
and when i say no room i couldn't bring down my tray to even put the dvd player on..
The operation of the tray table is not affected in any way by whether the seat back is or isn't reclined. Although the tray is attached to the seat back when it's not in use, the support for the tray (when in use) attaches to a lower part of the seat that is not affected by the angle of the seat back. Otherwise, cups would slide off the tray if the seat back were reclined.

leanne11 said:
i always ask the person behind me if it is ok to put my seat back..
i guess manners are in short supply in econ class...
It is not bad manners to use airplane seats as designed.

It is very hard to speak to the person behind you on an airplane without getting out of your seat, standing up, turning around, leaning over your seat back, and getting the attention of the person behind you. Nobody in front of me has ever gone through such gyrations to ask me if they can recline their seat. Nor would I expect them to.
 
I'm with the OP on this one. If no one is behind me, then of course I'll recline the seat. If somebody is behind me, then I don't even bother. I just got back from Alaska and it was a 5 hour flight. Who ever said that when a person reclines their seat doesn't affect the person behind them must fly on different airplanes.
The next time you are riding in a car, let the person in the front seat RECLINE. It's made to recline, so why not. It isn't rude for their head to be almost in your lap. Hell, give them a massage, make them more comfortable.
It is about manners. Just because you can, doesn't mean you should.
Passing gas is natural, so when I'm sitting beside you , Is it ok? I'd hope not.
When I was younger and didn't really care "about others people", I never gave it a second thought about putting my seat back. After a few years I do realize that I can get up and walk around the cabin, or just do my best and sleep with my chair up rite.
It's ironic because on our second flight home Saturday, the guy beside/infront put his chair back. The lady was trying to use her lap top. When he started reclining, it pinned the lap top monitor under the tray table latch. The look on the lady's face was like Damn dude. I just smiled and shook my head.
 
Changing of the "full" diaper right there in the seat has got to be the worst I've ever experienced.

I don't get motion sickness, but this was a close one....due to fumes....LOL

The cabin was saturated for at least 30 mins.
 
djbleach said:
Who ever said that when a person reclines their seat doesn't affect the person behind them must fly on different airplanes.
Yes, but the person in front of you is reclining into his or her space, not into your space. The recline space behind your seat belongs to you, whether you choose to use it or not.

Of course the things that other passengers do on aircraft affect you. The space per person in economy is very limited.

djbleach said:
The next time you are riding in a car, let the person in the front seat RECLINE. It's made to recline, so why not. It isn't rude for their head to be almost in your lap. Hell, give them a massage, make them more comfortable.
A car set is designed quite differently from an airplane seat. Most car seats are adjustable from a position that's so far upright (and forward) that I doubt anyone sits in that position all the way back until the headrest rests on the back seat.

Airplane seats have a very limited recline. The top of the seat reclines around six inches, which works out to around one inch at knee level.

djbleach said:
The lady was trying to use her lap top. When he started reclining, it pinned the lap top monitor under the tray table latch.
It's a really, really, really, really bad idea to position ones laptop computer so that the screen goes into the gap where the tray table was. It's an invitation to have your laptop crushed if the person in front reclines the seat.. I recline my seat slowly to give the person behind me a chance to make adjustments if necessary. But I'm also very careful with my laptop.
 
nliedel said:
I once had to ride 5 hours in a plane with a toddler kicking my seat. When I politly explained to the mother he was hurting me she told him to "kick the B**** harder". I was appalled.

What a terrible response for the mother to have! That is completely unacceptable. That said, I do fly with carseats for my little ones, as it is just not safe for them to use seats designed for adults. Unfortunately that puts them in way to close of proximity to the seat in front. Months before our trip, I begin buying little toys to keep my children's interest and divert them from the seat in front. Once in awhile, I am unsuccessful (usually for a very brief period and then they are diverted again). I usually worry that my son will decide to kick the poor person in front of him (we're flying in November and I've already started to worry) and I'm willing to do anything in my power to make him stop, except take him out of the careseat! If I'm flying with another adult, I'm willing to have them (or me) move in front of the carseat, so that they will take the kicking, or if there is another area that I can move to in the back of the plane, I will move. However, in the long run, my child does deserve to be equally safe in the plane. But I would be very courteous and go out of my way to stop the kicking!

Back to the original topic though, I fly alot for work and have been in coach class of most major airlines (both small and large planes). I almost always end up reclining the seat for the duration of the flight, I don't think I could function if I had to sit up straight! For this reason, I usually avoid emergency exit rows. I would expect (and encourage) the passengers in front of me to recline their seats. I often work with my laptop, and I haven't had a problem yet. However, if I did need to share my monitor, that could pose a problem because most laptop and portable dvd screens can be really hard to see at certain angles. Personally if it bothered me, I'd sit in the row right behind the emergency exit row (in some planes, these can't recline) or I'd sit in the front (bulkhead) seats (no seat in front to recline).

I just can't see how reclining an airplane seat that is meant to be reclined can be compared to passing gas or changing diapers in the airplane cabin! Car seats are designed to recline when the vehicle is off! By all means, recline your seat into my space when I am a back seat passenger in your car, but don't expect me to car pool with you any longer! That is your right and your car. On the plane, that is my space and my right. I paid for the seat with the recline! (But if someone has obvious physical limitations or asks me not to recline the seat because it is giving them discomfort, I'll probably oblige. It is not in my nature to try to be a pain!

Just my 2 cents worth!
 
TE=seashoreCM]Choose only one:

2. Every time the kid kicks you you turn around and gently pat the kid's head.


Please, never touch the child.
Where you could end up, limited space will be the least of your problems.

:earsgirl: :earsboy:
 
seashoreCM said:
Choose only one:

1. Complain to the flight attendant. This is assault on the part of the mother for not restraining the child and can turn into assault on the part of the airline of the flight crew does not fix the problem.

2. Every time the kid kicks you you turn around and gently pat the kid's head.

Disney hints:
http://members.aol.com/ajaynejr/disney.htm

You got to be nuts!! You'll be charged for battery!!! In this age you don't touch anyone.
 
JennsBabySky said:
Personally if it bothered me, I'd sit in the row right behind the emergency exit row (in some planes, these can't recline) or I'd sit in the front (bulkhead) seats (no seat in front to recline).

That's an excellent answer!

If someone absolutely does not want to sit behind a reclined seat, the perfect answer is to sit in a seat with no seat in front of it -- a bulkhead seat. In many cases, the bulkhead seats cannot be pre-reserved. They show as occupied when a seat map is viewed online. But often they're actually under airport control. So passengers who check in early can have their seats changed to bulkhead seats. Just one word of warning -- bulkhead seats tend to be offered to parents with lap babies.

Sitting right behind the exit row might still mean sitting behind reclined seats. For example, on American Airlines MD80 aircraft, rows 20 and 21 are the exit rows. There are 5 seats in each row. Only two seats (20A and 20F) don't recline. The other 8 exit row seats all recline. So someone sitting in row 22 thinking that they won't be behind a reclined seat is likely to be disappointed.
 
seashoreCM said:
Choose only one:

1. Complain to the flight attendant. This is assault on the part of the mother for not restraining the child and can turn into assault on the part of the airline of the flight crew does not fix the problem.

2. Every time the kid kicks you you turn around and gently pat the kid's head.

Disney hints:
http://members.aol.com/ajaynejr/disney.htm

I agree with some of the others ... #2 is definitely a bad idea.

I prefer # 3 ... remember Arnold Schwarzenegger's encounter with an overactive kid on a plane in "Kindergarten Cop"? Of course, it's easier to scare a kid into behaving when you're a bodybuilder with a German accent. :teeth:
 
Maybe the next time you fly you can try to get the seat in the emergency exit row. That way there are no seats in front of you . You just have to be willing to help open the door incase of an emergency. My dh has asked for this seat a few times since he is 6'7" tall and likes the leg room.
 
djbleach said:
It is about manners. Just because you can, doesn't mean you should.

Well said. Humans must move away from taking advantage of every opportunity ( "it's my space....") to being considerate of those around them. The world would be much better if we all placed consideration for others, ahead of ourselves.
 
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