ROFR Thread July to Sept 2021 *PLEASE SEE FIRST POST FOR INSTRUCTIONS & FORMATTING TOOL*

[cate2]

Ok- could NOT find a reasonable small OCT UY AKV resale. Been looking for two months. Buying 60 points direct at 186. Getting 2020 points banked into 2021 and then asking MS to help me with an exchange of points where the 60 banked 2020 points from the direct sale can replace some 2021 points that I have tied up in an existing AKV 1 bedroom for May 22. The guide stated it is totally doable. Also: in retrospect of the contract I tried to buy 3 times from a seller who needs a specific price of no lower that $152 on the listed $161 pp AKV contract: I understand that you may need that price. It's hard to beat direct though when getting 60 extra points and pro-rated dues for 2021. I realize a savings of $34 ppt is savings, but with a small contract, lower closing costs, and "free" 2020 points with no restrictions, I gotta go direct. I figured that with the extra points sold at a 15.5 rate, that's $930 value off of the $2040 savings which results in a loss of $1110 by going direct. Factor in a smaller amount of closing, say $110 to make things tidy, and I lost out on a 1K savings. Subtract about $230 in pro-rated dues savings, and $770 in savings is not working for me. Pros: unrestricted, immediate, done. Can't justify resale at a firm $152 counter. This leaves this single mom with 500 points for my future with grandkids one day. (Hard price, though, when I bought AKV last Oct. for $100 ppt.)

"pro-rated dues for 2021"
pro-rated dues? Did they give you a discount on the 2021 points or just the 2020 dues?

 

[Walterwiniarz]

What? VGF 2.0 sales beginning 8/5, like this week??? Details please!!

According to one of the DVC guides I spoke to hinted at it. Granted another one I talked to pretended VGF 2.0 wasn’t happening so who knows

 

[Sandisw]

"pro-rated dues for 2021"
pro-rated dues? Did they give you a discount on the 2021 points or just the 2020 dues?

When you buy direct, you owe dues from the date you add on, not points you get.

So, when adding on today, you only owe MFs from Aug 3rd to end of the year because those are your actual dates of ownership.

Resale tends to be different with brokers and sellers wanted to be reimbursed for the points, regardless of when you buy.

 

[HappyThoughtsTees]

HappyThoughtsTees---$260-$43944-160-VGC-Jun-0/20, 29/21, 160/22, 160/23- sent 8/3/21

 

[Chia1974]

When you buy direct, you owe dues from the date you add on, not points you get.

So, when adding on today, you only owe MFs from Aug 3rd to end of the year because those are your actual dates of ownership.

Resale tends to be different with brokers and sellers wanted to be reimbursed for the points, regardless of when you buy.

Do you think they would do the same for VGF2 if it starts 8/5 like someone mentioned? I have an October UY and that would nice if 2020 points are included. I’m looking for a small one and all VGF are above $200 now. I’m really hoping direct prices are reasonable.

 

[dfan_welcomehomeall_19]

That’s what I heard through a sales rep unofficially.

What? VGF 2.0 sales beginning 8/5, like this week??? Details please!!

anybody else hearing this? Interested in adding on at VGF. I thought it would be too soon but on the other side DVC filed for a permit to start work at grand Flo last week and supposedly will be completed by March 2022

 

[princesscinderella]

I would think they would wait until December to sell that way they don’t have to give anyone 2021 points in an already point flooded system.

 

[Sandisw]

Do you think they would do the same for VGF2 if it starts 8/5 like someone mentioned? I have an October UY and that would nice if 2020 points are included. I’m looking for a small one and all VGF are above $200 now. I’m really hoping direct prices are reasonable.

That is always the way it is with direct sales so yes. But if sales were to begin in 2 days, I think we would have more info.

 

[MSUDisney]

Waiting on ROFR for my first DVC contract. 200 points at VGF for 175pp…kind of regretting not waiting to see what direct pricing will look like…

 

[Stargazer65]

anybody else hearing this? Interested in adding on at VGF. I thought it would be too soon but on the other side DVC filed for a permit to start work at grand Flo last week and supposedly will be completed by March 2022

I haven't heard this! But even if it's not true at all, it's still valuable information. I recommend we affirm VGF2 sales starting on 8/5 as an "official" rumor.

 

[dfan_welcomehomeall_19]

I would think they would wait until December to sell that way they don’t have to give anyone 2021 points in an already point flooded system.

I tend to agree and that does make sense especially with the added room inventory not available yet.

this isn’t an apples to apples bc the copper creek conversion resulted in a new condo association whereas vgf2 will be part of existing VGF and deed exp 2064) copper creek went on sale 3/8/17 and opened 7/17/17 so about four months prior to opening

 

[zobel0022]

Do you think they would do the same for VGF2 if it starts 8/5 like someone mentioned? I have an October UY and that would nice if 2020 points are included. I’m looking for a small one and all VGF are above $200 now. I’m really hoping direct prices are reasonable.

Don’t see how they could give you 2020 points for the units that aren’t even ready yet. Wouldn’t you just be buying in to have points for next year when the section opens?

 

[Chia1974]

They just revealed a new Disneyland annual pass program will be announced today. Anything can happen with Disney at any minute as we learned this year. I’m looking forward to VGF2 and WDW annual pass any day now.

 

[Sandisw]

Don’t see how they could give you 2020 points for the units that aren’t even ready yet. Wouldn’t you just be buying in to have points for next year when the section opens?

This is the big unknown. It’s the same association so those points are good at current VGF. But we should probably not derail this thread and continue in the VGF2 one.

 

[andyc83]

They just revealed a new Disneyland annual pass program will be announced today. Anything can happen with Disney at any minute as we learned this year. I’m looking forward to VGF2 and WDW annual pass any day now.

Please WDW AP come back, pleeeeaassseeee!

 

[masupo]

Don’t see how they could give you 2020 points for the units that aren’t even ready yet. Wouldn’t you just be buying in to have points for next year when the section opens?

You would receive points for your current use year. If they start selling VGF2 in Aug, anyone buying now with a Sept, Oct, or Dec use year would receive 2020 points because they are still in their 2020 use year. As someone with an Oct UY year that would be great for me!

I also could see them waiting til December so that doesn’t happen.

 

[MeggiesMom]

Waiting on ROFR for my first DVC contract. 200 points at VGF for 175pp…kind of regretting not waiting to see what direct pricing will look like…

I am closing on my first DVC at VGF this week, and waiting for 2 more in ROFR. I'm sure resale will still be less than direct, but you can always add on once available. I wouldn't regret it - $175 is still a great price!

 

[Paul Stupin]

I am closing on my first DVC at VGF this week, and waiting for 2 more in ROFR. I'm sure resale will still be less than direct, but you can always add on once available. I wouldn't regret it - $175 is still a great price!

The only thing about buying VGF now and not waiting for VGF2 is that I believe, if the direct price is low enough, the resale prices will trend downward to the $150-$160 range.

 

[Chia1974]

Waiting on ROFR for my first DVC contract. 200 points at VGF for 175pp…kind of regretting not waiting to see what direct pricing will look like…

This is a decent price, definitely lower than direct.

 

[Cleeevus]

Cleeevus---$285-$29286-100-VGC-Feb-0/20, 100/21, 200/22, 100/23-Seller pays MF ‘21- sent 8/1