ROFR Thread Jan to March 2022 *PLEASE SEE FIRST POST FOR INSTRUCTIONS & FORMATTING TOOL*

[ADress&AnimalSidekick]

If they both pass it’s going to be a pain in the butt. I’d rescind one if I was in your shoes-or both-then research til your eyes bleed.

Thank you for the thoughtful reply. What makes is such a pain in the butt? I do still have a couple of days.

 

[BamaGuy44]

The guide wouldn't push them off to make it more expensive tomorrow, so what is really going on here?

I'm guessing maybe there will be incentives to push it below the current 186, at least for a couple of weeks. That's the only reason I can think for the guide to want them to wait. If he made them wait and they had to pay more they would hunt him down lol

 

[Sandisw]

I'm going to get ROFRed at $120 so hard. I wouldn't be surprised if Disney just emails my broker and says "lol no."

I'm currently buying SSR at 120 and then looking to sell both SSR and AKV. If somehow my purchase gets through, I could make out really well...

Pretty sure this will mean my buyers will lose my contract at $120 as well.

 

[sjdrr1313]

I'm guessing maybe there will be incentives to push it below the current 186, at least for a couple of weeks. That's the only reason I can think for the guide to want them to wait. If he made them wait and they had to pay more they would hunt him down lol

Well we have been talking about a possible fire sale with SSR with the way they've been buying back with ROFR... but I didn't expect a price hike plus a discount... Although I guess we see that every day in retail- hike up the price first so the sale seems better

 

[BamaGuy44]

Well we have been talking about a possible fire sale with SSR with the way they've been buying back with ROFR... but I didn't expect a price hike plus a discount... Although I guess we see that every day in retail- hike up the price first so the sale seems better

Yeah they're playing the long game with price hikes. They don't mind offering a short term deal to make the hike go down a bit easier. They'll make it up pretty quick

 

[Chia1974]

Well we have been talking about a possible fire sale with SSR with the way they've been buying back with ROFR... but I didn't expect a price hike plus a discount... Although I guess we see that every day in retail- hike up the price first so the sale seems better

Even with sale, it will be less value than VGF2 and RIV for lesser years.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

Even with sale, it will be less value than VGF2 and RIV for lesser years.

If you offered me a 200 point contract 100% for free, I'd rather have AKV/SSR/OKW than VGF2 or RIV.

 

[HIRyeDVC]

I guess they're continuing to pretty up SSR for the upcoming promotions. Now I understand better why they take back so many SSRs. Easy money!

https://dvcnews.com/resorts/saratog...a-springs-main-pool-refurb-scheduled-for-2023

 

[CaptainAmerica]

I guess they're continuing to pretty up SSR for the upcoming promotions. Now I understand better why they take back so many SSRs. Easy money!

https://dvcnews.com/resorts/saratog...a-springs-main-pool-refurb-scheduled-for-2023

I thought the pool refurb schedule was pretty much on autopilot ever X years?

 

[MFMont]

You do get a $300 travel credit, so I see the fee more as $250 a year as we easily use the $300. We have and have liked over the years, but with the annual fee increase (I think it used to be $400 or $450), we are thinking about downgrading or getting rid of it. My husband doesn’t like change though, so who knows - it does have some decent perks as well..

It was $400 when it launched and came with 100,000 points or the equivalent of $1500. I also received a one time credit for TSA precheck.

 

[Chia1974]

If you offered me a 200 point contract 100% for free, I'd rather have AKV/SSR/OKW than VGF2 or RIV.

SAP

 

[Chia1974]

soooo, if someone wanted to add on.... would he recommend they do it today? I guess you could do it today and cancel tomorrow if there's a better offer with incentives...

He answered no current promotions. I’m asking him if there’s any tomorrow

 

[CaptainAmerica]

SAP

Maybe VGF, but RIV MFs are AKV-tier.

 

[Chia1974]

 

[limace]

Thank you for the thoughtful reply. What makes is such a pain in the butt? I do still have a couple of days.

They are each treated as separate memberships, so you can’t combine them both, for instance, at 7 months to use all the points at one resort-you can either book two days with one membership and two with the other, for instance, or transfer points from one account to another-but you can only do that once a year.

So, as an example, I have a very small-25 point AKV-contract. If I want to book something that cost, say, 80 points at Poly I could use some of my VGC points with the AKV points at 7 months in one seamless pool because they are the same unit (I’d be crazy to use VGC points anywhere other than VGC but that’s a whole other issue). If my contracts were a different use year, I could book my days using AKV points-hoping they were out exactly right-and then go into my other account and book with VGC.

Let’s say I’m booking a room that costs 25 points a night. With borrowing restrictions right now, I can book 2 nights with my AKV points and then would have to book the third with VGC-even though I still have 13 AKV points-I can’t book half a day with them in the scenario of two use years. I could transfer some VGC points to my AKV account which would make this trip more smooth to book-but if I cancel the trip I can’t transfer them back.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

They are each treated as separate memberships, so you can’t combine them both, for instance, at 7 months to use all the points at one resort-you can either book two days with one membership and two with the other, for instance, or transfer points from one account to another-but you can only do that once a year.

So, as an example, I have a very small-25 point AKV-contract. If I want to book something that cost, say, 80 points at Poly I could use some of my VGC points with the AKV points at 7 months in one seamless pool because they are the same unit (I’d be crazy to use VGC points anywhere other than VGC but that’s a whole other issue). If my contracts were a different use year, I could book my days using AKV points-hoping they were out exactly right-and then go into my other account and book with VGC.

Let’s say I’m booking a room that costs 25 points a night. With borrowing restrictions right now, I can book 2 nights with my AKV points and then would have to book the third with VGC-even though I still have 13 AKV points-I can’t book half a day with them in the scenario of two use years. I could transfer some VGC points to my AKV account which would make this trip more smooth to book-but if I cancel the trip I can’t transfer them back.

But there's a downside to a single Use Year as well. If your UY is September, for example, and you're planning a trip for August, you have to book outside of your banking window. If you had a separate contract with a March UY, you could use that one to book the August trip and you'd be able to bank if something come up where you had to cancel.

 

[MFMont]

I guess they're continuing to pretty up SSR for the upcoming promotions. Now I understand better why they take back so many SSRs. Easy money!

https://dvcnews.com/resorts/saratog...a-springs-main-pool-refurb-scheduled-for-2023

What is the guess for the BWV takes? it looks as though its moving higher by the week. I thought I would be good at $147pp but a $149pp was taken yesterday. Same amount of points (150). It is making me consider other options however none of those would be direct. If I do PVB, I will need more $ per point and roughly 40% more points to even things out. While I love PVB, I like BWV more. Shocking though to have to drop $24,000 or so on a 20 year contract. While PVB will certainly be a bigger purchase, it would still have some value when I will likely be done with it. Sheesh. Way more complicated than when I bought during the giant fire sale that was early 2011.

 

[limace]

Fair point. If you pretty regularly travel the same times-pick a use year right before your travel dates. Some folks are likely to go at any time so it’s a different calculus for them.

PP, I wasn’t being snarky when I advised you to research until your eyes bleed. All timeshare systems are complicated-DVC probably simpler than many, but still comes with a significant learning curve. Mistakes can be very expensive or frustrating-or both. I really advise studying until you understand things like use year really well before committing the money.

 

[mattpeto]

Still a little gray area on the specific details but I've got pretty good confirmation this is happening...

https://twitter.com/x/status/1506684158596243457

Cool stick a skyliner station at Jambo please (to AK).

just kidding - kind of.

 

[hglenn]

What is the guess for the BWV takes? it looks as though its moving higher by the week. I thought I would be good at $147pp but a $149pp was taken yesterday. Same amount of points ($150). It is making me consider other options however none of those would be direct. If I do PVB, I will need more $ per point and roughly 40% more points to even things out. While I love PVB, I like BWV more. Shocking though to have to drop $24,000 or so on a 20 year contract. While PVB will certainly be a bigger purchase, it would still have some value when I will likely be done with it. Sheesh. Way more complicated than when I bought during the giant fire sale that was early 2011.

I'm wondering the same. I've got a super low offer in for BWV right now. My only hope is that by the time they get to mine they are moved on to obsessing about something else! LOL I, too, and trying to figure out my next move if I get ROFR'd. SSR was our backup but now not so sure....