Rob and Scott's Big Fat Gay Disney Wedding-TR Pg 92; Photo Update pg 133

I have just now read about your ceremony and the AC. Rob :hug: I'm so, so sorry. As I get older I find this is occuring more and more....places, people whole chunks of my past...gone. The only encouragement I have is that you and Scott wil have your memories...something no one can take away from you. Your ceremony will be a testament of while things around you and Scott change, your love for each other will continue to grow and thrive. Given that the AC has such prominence in your first memories of each other...remind yourself that you will now have a lifetime to make new ones...

I'm so sorry again Rob. I wish there was more that I could do or say. I guess for starters I'll get Wally to back off about the Chicken Dance....

That's a good point too Rosie. I guess since I live in LA I try not to get too attached to anything, since we don't know how long its going to be around. Last time it happened was my favorite bar :( in Buena Park near Knott's Berry Farm. We had some great times right out of college there and it was the only place my friends and I had ever been regulars. It was tough to see it replaced by a used auto lot :badpc: :badpc: :badpc: :badpc:
 
Ah no. What a horribly sad thing for you both. {{{hugs}}}

May I try a Pollyanna for a second? You and your wonderful husband to be met each other there, you "got your start" there. It holds forever memories for you. It's where you will marry (yes, marry) and it's where you'll begin this new phase of your journey together. So, as you move on in your life, AC closes as it can never be a place that sees such love as your's again.

I'm not saying it well, I know but can you see what I mean at all? I know it's a bit of a stretch, but it's meant with the utmost sincerity.

{{{hugs}}} Bittersweet. Our lives are.
 
im so sorry for you and the impact it is going to make on your ceremony...im sending good thoughts your way, and hoping it all works out...
 
Okay, I'm sick to my stomach.

As most of you know, Scott and I met at Pleasure Island. Specifically at 8-Trax during Gay Days 2003. On our first date, our first stop was at the Adventurers Club.

Since moving here in 2004, the Adventurers Club has been our home base. We've made such wonderful friends at the AC. It's a unique place, and other than our house, the one place where we feel completely comfortable.

What you don't all know is that Scott and I booked the Adventurers Club as the venue for our Big Fat Gay Disney Wedding. That's right. Our commitment ceremony is slated to happen on the library stage at the Adv Club.

The thing is, the club is now slated to close it's doors forever on the NIGHT BEFORE OUR CEREMONY!

We spoke the club management tonight and they assured us that they'll honor all contracted events, but now our ceremony instead of being a happy whimsical event will have the sad atmosphere of being the last time we and our friends gather at the place that means so much to us.

I can't begin to put into words how upset I am. We spent our evening tonight at the club with many of our friends, but I was too upset to enjoy any of it, and am crying as I type this. Our friends that work there are losing their jobs, so I feel very guilty about focusing on how much this hurts me. But it does. It hurts bad.

I don't know what to do or what to say. I'm upset, I'm hurt, I'm angry, and I'm confused. I'm trying to keep it together until we we're able to talk to our event planner about this, but I can honestly say that no matter what happens this changes things, and it makes our happy day less happy.

There are days that I wish I wasn't a Disney fan. This is one of them.

WoW Rob-
So sorry to hear this. Hope you get this all to work our for you.
I'll try and send some positive energy you way. :hug:
I'll miss the Adventurers Club too - What an error of judgment for Disney. :sad1:
 

Okay, I'm sick to my stomach.

As most of you know, Scott and I met at Pleasure Island. Specifically at 8-Trax during Gay Days 2003. On our first date, our first stop was at the Adventurers Club.

Since moving here in 2004, the Adventurers Club has been our home base. We've made such wonderful friends at the AC. It's a unique place, and other than our house, the one place where we feel completely comfortable.

What you don't all know is that Scott and I booked the Adventurers Club as the venue for our Big Fat Gay Disney Wedding. That's right. Our commitment ceremony is slated to happen on the library stage at the Adv Club.

The thing is, the club is now slated to close it's doors forever on the NIGHT BEFORE OUR CEREMONY!

We spoke the club management tonight and they assured us that they'll honor all contracted events, but now our ceremony instead of being a happy whimsical event will have the sad atmosphere of being the last time we and our friends gather at the place that means so much to us.

I can't begin to put into words how upset I am. We spent our evening tonight at the club with many of our friends, but I was too upset to enjoy any of it, and am crying as I type this. Our friends that work there are losing their jobs, so I feel very guilty about focusing on how much this hurts me. But it does. It hurts bad.

I don't know what to do or what to say. I'm upset, I'm hurt, I'm angry, and I'm confused. I'm trying to keep it together until we we're able to talk to our event planner about this, but I can honestly say that no matter what happens this changes things, and it makes our happy day less happy.

There are days that I wish I wasn't a Disney fan. This is one of them.

Big hugs to you Rob. :grouphug:
 
Rob - I feel so bad for you and Scott. But it's almost a circle here - you started your dating relationship at the AC and now you're starting your married life there. If I weren't in my office with the door open I might start to belt out "The Circle of Life". I'm sure your ceremony with have enough memories to last a lifetime.
 
Okay, I think I'm finally calm enough to post about this again.

First off, thank you all for all of the hugs and support. And to those of you who have sent PMs to make sure I'm doing okay. All the support means a lot. You guys and gals are awesome!

I totally understand what a lot of you are talking about when you say that "it's the end of a chapter", and that we'll still have a great wedding, etc. And maybe I'm too close to the situation, but I can't see ANY positive here. And we've got a lot of new concerns to boot!

We'll have to miss the last night at the AC because we've already got plans with out of town family and friends (reheasal dinner and welcome party). We won't abandon them. This may not be such a bad thing, though. I'm not sure I want to remember the club as the overcrowded freakfest it's sure to be.

What kind of condition is the club going to be in when we get there for our ceremony? There are already discussions on various online fan sites where people are talking about what items they plan to try and steal as a souvenir on the last night. And not small stuff either. I've already heard or seen 3 people say "the colonel is coming home with me!" :eek: We're afraid it'll be a disaster area.

Among the fans of the AdvClub there are, how shall I say, a rather extreme element. The ones that obsess on it. We're now facing the very real possibility that some of these freaks will try to crash our wedding in order to get into the club for whatever reason they've got (probably scavanging for souvenirs). We didn't realize how many of them even knew about our ceremony until they came up to us on Friday night and asked how the closing would affect it. We're going to have to ask for extra security to keep them out.

And then there are our guests. There are many on the guest list that are our AdvClub friends, AC performers, and AC staff (who will have just lost their jobs there). There is no way they'll walk into the Adventurers Club the day after it's official closure and have our day be "all about Rob & Scott". There's just no way. And if we were to change the venue (if that's even possible) then it STILL wouldn't be about us. It'd be about why we had to change venues.

Scott and I have had some serious discussions about this. We considered cancelling completely and just eloping to California. (which would be a HELL of a lot cheaper). But our out of town guests have already paid for plane tickets and room deposits for their hotel reservations. We can't do that to them. We talked about switching venues if that's possible. We'll have to see. But in the end, the ONLY place we ever pictured this happening was at the AC. We walked into our first meeting with DFTW with that in mind. But now we're stuck with "bittersweet" at best, and a complete disaster at worst. Who the hell wants to look foward to their wedding day being "bittersweet"? Or to look back at it that way?

We're not sure what to do. We've got a conference call scheduled with our event planner on Wednesday. We'll talk to her then and see what happens.

Thank you all again for your warm wishes and all the hugs. I'll continue to post here as we find things out.
 
Okay, I think I'm finally calm enough to post about this again.

First off, thank you all for all of the hugs and support. And to those of you who have sent PMs to make sure I'm doing okay. All the support means a lot. You guys and gals are awesome!

I totally understand what a lot of you are talking about when you say that "it's the end of a chapter", and that we'll still have a great wedding, etc. And maybe I'm too close to the situation, but I can't see ANY positive here. And we've got a lot of new concerns to boot!

We'll have to miss the last night at the AC because we've already got plans with out of town family and friends (reheasal dinner and welcome party). We won't abandon them. This may not be such a bad thing, though. I'm not sure I want to remember the club as the overcrowded freakfest it's sure to be.

What kind of condition is the club going to be in when we get there for our ceremony? There are already discussions on various online fan sites where people are talking about what items they plan to try and steal as a souvenir on the last night. And not small stuff either. I've already heard or seen 3 people say "the colonel is coming home with me!" :eek: We're afraid it'll be a disaster area.

Among the fans of the AdvClub there are, how shall I say, a rather extreme element. The ones that obsess on it. We're now facing the very real possibility that some of these freaks will try to crash our wedding in order to get into the club for whatever reason they've got (probably scavanging for souvenirs). We didn't realize how many of them even knew about our ceremony until they came up to us on Friday night and asked how the closing would affect it. We're going to have to ask for extra security to keep them out.

And then there are our guests. There are many on the guest list that are our AdvClub friends, AC performers, and AC staff (who will have just lost their jobs there). There is no way they'll walk into the Adventurers Club the day after it's official closure and have our day be "all about Rob & Scott". There's just no way. And if we were to change the venue (if that's even possible) then it STILL wouldn't be about us. It'd be about why we had to change venues.

Scott and I have had some serious discussions about this. We considered cancelling completely and just eloping to California. (which would be a HELL of a lot cheaper). But our out of town guests have already paid for plane tickets and room deposits for their hotel reservations. We can't do that to them. We talked about switching venues if that's possible. We'll have to see. But in the end, the ONLY place we ever pictured this happening was at the AC. We walked into our first meeting with DFTW with that in mind. But now we're stuck with "bittersweet" at best, and a complete disaster at worst. Who the hell wants to look foward to their wedding day being "bittersweet"? Or to look back at it that way?

We're not sure what to do. We've got a conference call scheduled with our event planner on Wednesday. We'll talk to her then and see what happens.

Thank you all again for your warm wishes and all the hugs. I'll continue to post here as we find things out.


Rob, let me just say this..and then you can tell me to shut the heck up. When James and I married 25 years ago I was already pregnant to my oldest daughter. Our friends and family were NOT happy. We got married at the courthouse and the judge spoke so fast I thought I'd just been auctioned off. We had pizza and chinese food afterwards. My Mom didn't come and neither did most of our siblings.....but here's the god's honest truth: The day itself mattered not one iota...it was the days, weeks and years afterwards that make that day even matter at all. Please remember that no matter what the circumstances are, no matter what snags and mishaps occur, the real reason for this day is that you and Scott are proclaiming to all your friends, family and each other your deep and continuing love for one another.

For the record, I wouldn't have done my wedding day any other way. It makes a great story.
 
Rob, let me just say this..and then you can tell me to shut the heck up. When James and I married 25 years ago I was already pregnant to my oldest daughter. Our friends and family were NOT happy. We got married at the courthouse and the judge spoke so fast I thought I'd just been auctioned off. We had pizza and chinese food afterwards. My Mom didn't come and neither did most of our siblings.....but here's the god's honest truth: The day itself mattered not one iota...it was the days, weeks and years afterwards that make that day even matter at all. Please remember that no matter what the circumstances are, no matter what snags and mishaps occur, the real reason for this day is that you and Scott are proclaiming to all your friends, family and each other you deep and continuing love for one another.

For the record, I wouldn't have done my wedding day any other way. It makes a great story.

Thank you Rosie. That helps. And I'm not losing sight of the big picture. The most important things are still with in my life. And to some degree, it's "only a bar". But it's not just a bar, either. It's a magical place. That's why we wanted our ceremony there. But you're right. The place doesn't matter. (unless your spending $30K on a wedding, in which case you get to be bridezilla, groomzilla, & gayzilla all rolled into one! :rotfl2: )
 
I am glad to see that you have posted an update. I was worried about you guys.

I am certainly hoping that the last night at the AC will not be a total out of control snatch and grab fest. I am planning on being there and would hate to have to kick somebody's butt for destroying the place. While it's Disney's to do with as they see fit, I can't imagine that your event is necessarily the last event to be had there. I also have hopes that the powers that be will hear our cries and save the AC, so if the place isn't destroyed, it will be easier to re-open or to move it's contents to a new location. ;)

In all honesty, if it was me, I would cancel the wedding. The money you spend paying back the relatives would be peanuts compared to having my very expensive and no longer perfect dream wedding day being such an occasion of dread and sorrow. Sometimes, the price you pay to get out of things like this are minimal compared to the overall cost on all involved.

I don't mean to be Debbie Downer, but dangit, you deserve a better experience. :hug:
 
I can assure you security will be tight the last few nights the island is open. Nobody is going to walk out with the colonel under their arms!

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I would hope the security force was going to be on the case. The only thing that I want to come out of the clubs with is a buzz, some great memories, and a few paper drink coasters that I will ask for, not just take.
 
In all honesty, if it was me, I would cancel the wedding. The money you spend paying back the relatives would be peanuts compared to having my very expensive and no longer perfect dream wedding day being such an occasion of dread and sorrow. Sometimes, the price you pay to get out of things like this are minimal compared to the overall cost on all involved.

After all the wonderful support we've gotten from friends and family, there's no way we'd cancel. No, it's not going to be perfect, but what wedding ever really is? They've gone out of their way to be there for us. We're going to make sure they have the best time possible.

I can assure you security will be tight the last few nights the island is open. Nobody is going to walk out with the colonel under their arms!

It's not so much that I'm worried that they're going to get away with it, it's that they'll tear things off of the walls. Even if they get caught and the items are returned, do we seriously think Disney is going to reinstall them? Overnight? After the last night of operation? That's what's got us worried, that it'll look like a warzone.

I would hope the security force was going to be on the case. The only thing that I want to come out of the clubs with is a buzz, some great memories, and a few paper drink coasters that I will ask for, not just take.

Paper drink coasters? When were you there last? I've never seen them ever use anything besides a beverage napkin under a drink. :rotfl:
 
Sorry to hear about the Adventurers Club. I've never been there, so I can't really comment about that.

My suggestion is to ask for a night in the Cinderella Castle Suite in lieu of all the trouble they've put you through. It's the least they can do! :rolleyes:
 
Even if your event is the last at AC think of it this way- you had the best damn party that place had ever seen! I wouldn't worry about the condition of the club for your event. I'm sure that the great people at WDW will make sure that it is 100% for you guys. I am going to miss that last night at AC since I am doing the EE 5k that night. Not sure I will be able to make to PI after that.

If it matters, I still like your shoes :goodvibes
 
My suggestion is to ask for a night in the Cinderella Castle Suite in lieu of all the trouble they've put you through. It's the least they can do! :rolleyes:

Now this is a definate step in the right direction!
 
I'm so glad that you are not cancelling. That is definitely not an expression of your love and honor for each other! {{{hugs}}}

Go forward. Try not to worry about things over which you have no control. Do the Scarlett (worry about that tomorrow) thing. They are not going to tear the place into shambles.

Oh, and ditto on the shoes. SO GLAD you didn't go with the cowboy boots! :scared1:
 
It's been awhile since my last trip to the AC. I think it was 2005. We didn't go in 2006, due to short trip, or 2007, due to me being ill. I didn't go in April by myself, because I had so much stuff planned to do that I just couldn't work PI into it all. I still love the place though. We had some great times there in the past. I could have sworn that at some point in the past they had those paper coaster thingies that were themed like the clubs. Maybe not.....oh well, if they don't have them, it's no big deal. We just have a bar downstairs and I would love to add them to the collection. I do know that we have Raglan Road coasters and Mickey Mouse coasters from WDW.

One other note to the Bride/Groomzilla.....
You must BREATHE!
There is no way to make everyone happy. It's freakin' impossible. Just focus on what is going to make the two of you happy. Your guests will be focusing on you guys, not the venue. In the end this whole thing is about celebrating the fact that two really sweet guys found love and have worked really hard to build a life together based on that love for each other. The wedding could be held at Conservation Station and it would still be just as special. So, please relax! It's going to be ok. You can't control everything.

On a final note, there is a 360 lbs lesbian ready to tackle the first b***rd that tries to make off with anything out of the AC the last two nights. Your venue will be perfect, except maybe for a few greasy smudges left by the perps after I sit on them until security can get there to deal with them. ;) Not to mention the fact that Corey totally lives up to her t-shirt.....Chubby & Dangerous!
 
After all the wonderful support we've gotten from friends and family, there's no way we'd cancel. No, it's not going to be perfect, but what wedding ever really is? They've gone out of their way to be there for us. We're going to make sure they have the best time possible.
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GOOD! :thumbsup2
ya know - it won't be your first idea of perfect - who knows if it ever would have been -
somethings bound to happen - just roll with it - make it your new version of perfect.
Just look into Scott's eyes - you'll find perfect. ;)

Every Who down in Who-ville, the tall and the small,
Was singing! Without any presents at all!
He HADN'T stopped Christmas from coming!
IT CAME!
Somehow or other, it came just the same!

And the Grinch, with his grinch-feet ice-cold in the snow,
Stood puzzling and puzzling: "How could it be so?
It came without ribbons! It came without tags!
"It came without packages, boxes or bags!"
And he puzzled three hours, `till his puzzler was sore.
Then the Grinch thought of something he hadn't before!
"Maybe Christmas," he thought, "doesn't come from a store.
"Maybe Christmas...perhaps...means a little bit more!"
 
GOOD! :thumbsup2
ya know - it won't be your first idea of perfect - who knows if it ever would have been -
somethings bound to happen - just roll with it - make it your new version of perfect.
Just look into Scott's eyes - you'll find perfect. ;)

Every Who down in Who-ville, the tall and the small,
Was singing! Without any presents at all!
He HADN'T stopped Christmas from coming!
IT CAME!
Somehow or other, it came just the same!

And the Grinch, with his grinch-feet ice-cold in the snow,
Stood puzzling and puzzling: "How could it be so?
It came without ribbons! It came without tags!
"It came without packages, boxes or bags!"
And he puzzled three hours, `till his puzzler was sore.
Then the Grinch thought of something he hadn't before!
"Maybe Christmas," he thought, "doesn't come from a store.
"Maybe Christmas...perhaps...means a little bit more!"

See! I knew you were a big softy! ;)
 








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