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New goal unlocked. Stay club level. Sorry to DH who doesn't like AK

There’s a very informative CL board here


We wanted to add one more day next trip and decided to try CL at WDW to wind down before going home. They were super helpful over there because they have alot of experience. Like most things at WDW, there are details that make them each unique and little hacks to know.

Right off the bat I learned:

Wilderness Lodge is the only CL you can add at check-in, no matter which cash room you stay (no DVC villas). Doing it that way is only $150 extra per night, which is ~50% cheaper than reserving beforehand.

Speaking of discounts - Bounceback is the way to go for CL! Most of the room offers at WDW are up to 10% off CL. Bouncebacks are up to 35%. Usually very good selection of CL inventory with deep %. Warning: makes it easy to get spoiled!

Contemporary has 2 levels. Atrium Club is 12th floor. Tower Club is 14th floor and closed off (not looking down into the A-frame, a plus for people who don’t like the noise below outside their door). Last year 2 changes were made - both lounges now serve the same exact food and bev, and when booking a regular CL resort view room you can no longer choose which CL (they now assign at checkin). The hack with that room is requesting Tower Club even though 95% of those room are Atrium. Odds are Tower won’t be available but then they’ll likely allow you access to both floors, giving you the choice of both lounges, including the much better balconies on 14th floor. They’re about 3X as deep with cushioned furniture. 12th floor is narrow with no furniture.

Many CL resorts also have what is called ‘deluxe’. No separate bedroom but they are about 50% more square footage than the typical rooms. Not all equal though. For instance, at Boardwalk the room is 50% longer with a living room at the end of an otherwise normal room, right before the balcony. At Grand Flo there’s only a few. The room isn’t much different other than non-rectangle shape giving more floor space, but with a 50% shot you’re assigned a handicapped - a dealbreaker for some families.

We ended up choosing Contemporary since we are DVC people. The CL BW view deluxe room was very attractive, as was trying a Fireworks view room at WL with adding on CL for $150. But those are both resorts we’ll be doing with DVC. And we’re more likely to book BLT on points for a whole trip over staying cash at CR. So this opportunity seemed best to try staying in the historic A-frame, something we’ve never done before and unlikely to have another chance anytime soon.

Some other stuff I learned. Grand Flo is the Queen Mother of CL. The only reason we didn’t choose is we already stay VGF often. BW’s game is strong nowadays, unlike reports 5-10 yrs ago. Poly has 2 issues - very small space where food/bev is located (tight - like people accidentally knocking plates out of each other’s hands), and reflection on the glass means the lounge is not useful for fireworks (no balcony here). Altogether there are 10 CL choices at WDW.
 
Oh - I’ll be quiet after this and get back on RIV track. Forgot to mention-

Bounceback can be booked after any stay, including DVC. Any and all adults listed on a WDW reservation can do up to 2 rooms off one stay.

There is now a discount button that shows up when looking at cash rooms - you qualify for BB offer from current check-in to 7 days after checkout. Now much easier - check inventory online instead of calling. There’s still the old school way - dial #8844 from your WDW room.

You can actually add a day(s) at the end of your trip using BB after you check-in. This is a great hack when point poor. Book something cash for extra days you need, then check for bounceback after you get there - the system will let you change reservation.
 
My husband is very negative on the long hallways and long walks for food and drinks, this was his main complaint about Poly. So I bet he will like RIV much more than he anticipates. He also let me in on a little bit of emotion by asking me if RIV had views of the Skyliner... I was thinking yeahhh you will like it once we stay! I cant see us buying direct there, but I live for negotiations on resale and Id have fun buying some RIV resale!
See…. I’d go the opposite. Buy direct so at least you can use them at VDH/VGC/AUL/DFwd

There is a difference between liking RIV and HAVING to use the points only at RIV.
 
See…. I’d go the opposite. Buy direct so at least you can use them at VDH/VGC/AUL/DFwd

There is a difference between liking RIV and HAVING to use the points only at RIV.

I agree, I like Riviera a lot - but man, that's a long time to be locked in to one resort. After 40 years of paying those dues you'll forget about the $10k you saved buying resale, I would feel sure.
 

Oh - I’ll be quiet after this and get back on RIV track. Forgot to mention-

Bounceback can be booked after any stay, including DVC. Any and all adults listed on a WDW reservation can do up to 2 rooms off one stay.

There is now a discount button that shows up when looking at cash rooms - you qualify for BB offer from current check-in to 7 days after checkout. Now much easier - check inventory online instead of calling. There’s still the old school way - dial #8844 from your WDW room.

You can actually add a day(s) at the end of your trip using BB after you check-in. This is a great hack when point poor. Book something cash for extra days you need, then check for bounceback after you get there - the system will let you change reservation.
Do u just go to the regular disney hotel website to book BB?
 
I would argue a lot of people use their BCV points only at BCV so it's not that unusual. Same with VGC.

True. I’m still torn though. For better or worse, it’s a loooong time at RIV.

Recently I did the unthinkable and used more than a year of our BW points somewhere else. That flexibility is nice to have, even if not preferred way to use the points. Then I think about BW and BC expiring, and how owning RIV would still have over half its life left at that point. Reliable access to Crescent Lake for decades. I really like the MK/EP home resort combo.
 
I would argue a lot of people use their BCV points only at BCV so it's not that unusual. Same with VGC.
But there is a difference between the choice to use them there and you can ONLY use them there and nowhere else…..FOREVER…. even if it’s going through a massive refurb….. or even if it needs a refurb because it’s been 13 years…. or because you are with littles and want to be walking distance to MK…..
 
I would argue a lot of people use their BCV points only at BCV so it's not that unusual. Same with VGC.

I mostly use my points at my home resorts as well, but just the thought of only being able to use those points at one resort for over 40 years is what is unpalatable to me. Especially when the dues are exactly the same. After 40 years of paying the same dues, I'd probably have wished I had just coughed up that extra $10k to buy direct 40 years prior.

I considered buying Riviera resale for my add-on last year, but decided to go direct just because of that. 40 years is a long time. Lots can change. I may want to take the whole family to Aulani in a 3 bedroom one year and need every single point I own. You never know.
 
True. I’m still torn though. For better or worse, it’s a loooong time at RIV.
I'm increasingly happy that I've settled on a half-and-half hybrid RIV ownership. I have enough annual points to cover my primary "get out of winter" annual trip in a 1BR, but through banking, I can use two years of developer one year, and two years of resale the next, alternating between Riviera and "Somewhere Else".

The details: I bought developer in UY24, used MB, and did not need to book a trip for UY25, so I banked (most) of the UY25 points. I bought a resale contract in late UY25 that had full points in UY26 at a good price. In UY26, my (non-RIV) trip is booked using my developer UY25 and UY26 points. I will bank my resale UY26 points, and in UY27 use my resale UY26 and UY27 points for a RIV trip. Then, bank my developer UY27 points, rinse and repeat.

This ended up saving me almost 25% on building the total portfolio. Because RIV is relatively point-heavy, I can supplement the resale points with a few developer points if need be, and/or salvage a few developer points to tack on a long Fall weekend every several years. Because I happen to really like RIV, tying at least half my stays there is not at all a sacrifice.
 
I mostly use my points at my home resorts as well, but just the thought of only being able to use those points at one resort for over 40 years is what is unpalatable to me. Especially when the dues are exactly the same. After 40 years of paying the same dues, I'd probably have wished I had just coughed up that extra $10k to buy direct 40 years prior.

I considered buying Riviera resale for my add-on last year, but decided to go direct just because of that. 40 years is a long time. Lots can change. I may want to take the whole family to Aulani in a 3 bedroom one year and need every single point I own. You never know.
The key for me is to have some direct Riv points. That way the resale points can be combined with your direct for Riv stays, or be used instead of direct points, freeing those up for other resorts.

There is no way that I will ever have a year that I don't stay at Riv for at least ONE trip, so having a small number of resale points makes sense in that respect.
 
Quick special mention to the dining options at Caribbean Beach too. We only tried the quick service on our last trip, but it was good - plenty of options and lots of seating. Have heard good things about Sebastian’s (which apparently takes reservations now - I don’t think it used too). And, it really is like a 5 minute walk there from the RIV feature pool.
I just noticed that if you zoom out on Barefoot Bay, it kind of resembles a 3-toed bare foot! (with a tail)
 











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