Riding POC with disability

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Hi,
I'm meeting up with some friends next week at WDW. One of them is
a young women, wheelchair bound, but I'm not exactly sure what her disability is..She's a regular at the World (travels with her mom) and loves all things Captain Jack ne J.Depp!

Sadly, she has never been on POC. I can't remember exactly what the story is, but I guess its not wheelchair accessible and perhaps Disney CMs can't assist someone...only fam members????????????????????????

Anyway, I got this bright idea (only after asking her mom if she thinks it possible) to find a way to gget her on this ride. She doesn't weigh much and I think we could handle lifting her into the boat.

But my question is: Do the CMs stop/stabilize a boat to give us time? Will they allow us to lift her in? What are the RULES?

Thanks for your help! Oh...I have a 8x 12 photo of Capt'n Jack and will hopefully get the Capt Jack tutorial actor to give it to her with a big smooch
during the tutorial! I'm really excited about that, but to get her on the ride would really be magical!
 
POC can be tricky for some people who are wheelchair bound, but I think it is great that you are so wiling to help. The boat will be stopped and they will not moce it untill everyone is in and seated. As far as I have seen, as long as you are being safe, the Cms don't care if you help transfer a person to a ride. The backs of the seats are low, so be sure that your friend can sit unsupported because this could be a huge problem if she can not. At the end of the ride you will have to tell the CMs that you need a wheelchair, they will give a loaner and you will take it back up to where hers will be. If she has to have a speical chair then I think they have other ways of doing this and maybe some others can help you out as well.
 
POC can be really difficult to get someone back out of. The boat sits low so it is much harder for someone who is not ambulatory to get out. My husband helps our dd get in and out but we will not be doing POC this time:sad2: It was really hard for him to get her back out.
 
POC can be really difficult to get someone back out of. The boat sits low so it is much harder for someone who is not ambulatory to get out. My husband helps our dd get in and out but we will not be doing POC this time:sad2: It was really hard for him to get her back out.
Amen!
Every time I am tempted to ride POC I picture myself sitting on the ground in a bucket with people pulling up on my arms to get me out. That usually chases the temptation away in favor of Haunted Mansion or something where you don't have to defy gravity to mount or dismount the ride. On POC, the trap is that it's pretty easy to fall comfortably into the ride and sit on the bench, but getting out again is really hard. :scared1:
 

POC can be really difficult to get someone back out of. The boat sits low so it is much harder for someone who is not ambulatory to get out. My husband helps our dd get in and out but we will not be doing POC this time:sad2: It was really hard for him to get her back out.
I would agree with that.
Getting in is easier because gravity is working for you. Getting out is much harder because you are working against gravity.
Hi,
I'm meeting up with some friends next week at WDW. One of them is
a young women, wheelchair bound, but I'm not exactly sure what her disability is..She's a regular at the World (travels with her mom) and loves all things Captain Jack ne J.Depp!
It will be important for you to understand exactly what her abilities are before even considering trying to get her on.
There may be things she can do to help you or she may be totally dependent on you getting her on.
I can't remember exactly what the story is, but I guess its not wheelchair accessible and perhaps Disney CMs can't assist someone...only fam members????????????????????????
Disney CMs are not allowed to lift or transfer anyone.
The help they can do for transfers is basically holding a wheelchair for you and then moving it out of the way. They can also offer a steadying hand, but not lift or pull someone up from a ride.
But my question is: Do the CMs stop/stabilize a boat to give us time? Will they allow us to lift her in? What are the RULES?
The POC boats are completely stopped for everyone for loading and unloading. The CM dispatching the boats will not allow the boat to move until everyone is safely seated or safely off.

The attraction itself is sort of barely wheelchair accessible.
Pirates has some special design problems that make it difficult to bring someone’s own wheelchair/special needs stroller into the attraction. Although it is not ‘forbidden’, they do try to have everyone walk in, carry a small child in or have people use one of the attraction wheelchairs if at all possible. We have been asked if DD can walk, even though her wheelchair includes things like foot straps to keep her feet in place. We also get asked each time if she is able to transfer to one of the attraction wheelchairs.
They also have looked at her wheelchair before letting us take it into line and checked with CMs at both the boarding area and unload area to make sure it was OK before letting us into line.

The reason for this is that boarding area is in one building and the unload area is actually in another building, down one floor. It is not possible to board at the exit, like at many rides because once guests have gotten off, the boats go thru an area that is just high enough for the boats to go thru.
If the guest can walk/be carried in or use one of the attraction wheelchairs, it is much easier to make sure a wheelchair is waiting at the exit. If it has to be that guest’s own personal wheelchair, it’s harder to make sure that particular wheelchair gets to the exit on time. The reason they look at DD’s chair and check with the boarding and unload area is to make sure they have the staff to get it to the unload area and that it is small/light enough for them to bring thru the behind the scenes area to get it from the boarding area to the exit.

The boat itself is very low to the ground and getting in involves almost a 2 step process - getting the feet over the side of the boat and to the level of the seat and getting the feet one step further down to the floor of the boat.
Here is a picture of the boat:
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On a scale of 1-10 where 10 is the most difficult transfer, I would rate this a 9.5 and would suggest a couple of things if you are even thinking of trying it:
  1. Go on some easier transfer rides first - Haunted Mansion is fairly easy because the seat is about level with a wheelchair seat. Let the CM know that they need to completely stop the moving walkway for you.
  2. Ride Small World first to check out the size of the step. Small World has a wheelchair accessible boat, so she can ride in her wheelchair. The step in and out of the boat and the height of the seat from the ground is simulare, even though the Small WOrld boats are completely different than Pirates. That would give you an idea of how low the transfer in would be and how high you would have to transfer out.
  3. Take a ride on Pirates without her to check out just how the boarding goes, how low you sit, how high you would have to lift her and whether the grab bars would get in your way when getting in or out.
  4. Find out some things about her, like what her muscle tone is - is she like a rag doll, which would make her seem heavier or is she stiff like a Barbie doll, which might make it difficult to bend her to get her in or out.
  5. Can she sit without support - as was mentioned, the setbacks are very low and will not provide support. The seats themselves are fairly slippery fiberglass and are not very deep.
 
Bill has CP, is in a motorized wheelchair, and is a little stiff when it comes to his knees. We park his chair, take one of WDW's manual chairs, and go through the queue. I would never try to transfer him alone as in stepping down into the boat with him. I usually get in the boat first and another member in my party hands him down to me, I help him get situated at that point and hold on to him throughout the ride because his balance is off.

Once the ride is over, the member in my party gets out of the boat, I pick Bill up and hand him off then get out of the boat myself. They usually have manual chairs at the end so we take one of those, use the elevator and go up. Then we transfer him back to his wheelchair.

It takes a plan but can be done :thumbsup2.
 














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