Rider Swap strategy? Is this correct?

[gigem_aggies]

I don't know why I didn't put this together until now. So, here's a scenario:

DH and DD are riding Star Tours. We have 2 younger DDs who can't ride. I have NO desire to ride it, but can we get the rider swap passes and my DH and DD can ride it again?

 

[Reddog1134]

I don't know why I didn't put this together until now. So, here's a scenario:

DH and DD are riding Star Tours. We have 2 younger DDs who can't ride. I have NO desire to ride it, but can we get the rider swap passes and my DH and DD can ride it again?

So you're saying you would get rider swap passes and your husband and oldest daughter would just ride twice? That's sort of gaming the system and not what it's designed for. You could ride with your daughter and then she could ride again with your husband using rider swap.

The line for Star Tours usually isn't too bad, though.

 

[Meeko5]

I don't know why I didn't put this together until now. So, here's a scenario:

DH and DD are riding Star Tours. We have 2 younger DDs who can't ride. I have NO desire to ride it, but can we get the rider swap passes and my DH and DD can ride it again?

Yes that is totally fine. They don't care who rides with the swap pass. They are also good for more than just 1 day (not exactly sure how long, I can't remember) so you can save them and use them another day too.

 

[Wdwfan2016]

No it's not totally fine. Ride Swap is not designed so you can ride twice.

 

[Meeko5]

Ok replace totally fine with:

I'd get the swap pass in case you decide to ride it later. You may decide you want to try it after your DD gets off the ride with DH and loves it and begs you to ride it with her. But only you.

 

[gap2368]

yes you can do this like others have said this is not what rider swap was made for so it is up to you if you would like to do this.

rider swap is for the most part is good until the end of the month for the most part if it is near the end of the month some times it will be good until the end of the next month

 

[Missyrose]

Rider swap is meant to work so that the parent staying with the too-small child(ren) doesn't have to ride alone. That often means one of the other children get to ride twice. There's nothing improper about that.

 

[megster1123]

Rider swap is meant to work so that the parent staying with the too-small child(ren) doesn't have to ride alone. That often means one of the other children get to ride twice. There's nothing improper about that.

But I think the OP's example of using the rider swap so the same two people can ride twice is cheating the system. There's no swap, never was going to be - that just doesn't seem like a cool thing to do.

 

[Missyrose]

She didn't ask if that's what rider swap was meant to do, she asked if that's how it worked.

 

[DavidNYC]

Rider swap is meant to work so that the parent staying with the too-small child(ren) doesn't have to ride alone. That often means one of the other children get to ride twice. There's nothing improper about that.

I think the issue wasn't that the child was going to ride twice - the issue was that no one actually swapped. The same parent/child pair rode the ride twice - the person staying with the child never rides under this proposal. That is definitely not the intended use of the pass. Can you do it? Sure.

 

[scrapquitler]

I don't know why I didn't put this together until now. So, here's a scenario:

DH and DD are riding Star Tours. We have 2 younger DDs who can't ride. I have NO desire to ride it, but can we get the rider swap passes and my DH and DD can ride it again?

Yes.

 

[gigem_aggies]

I did not say I was planning to do this, I was simply asking so I could better understand the ins/outs of the system. We've never used rider swap before.

 

[slford00]

The textbook, perfect, PC answer is that DH and DD go, you watch the other kids, and then you and DD go later (and she gets to ride twice... the oldest/bravest kids always come out ahead, haha).

If you really have no desire to ride it, then yes, you can use the rider swap pass for DH and DD to both go a 2nd time. You would not be the first family to do this... that day, even.

Some people are WAY too uptight and self-righteous when it comes to Disney. Believe me, you're at such a tremendous disadvantage (as far as waits and efficiency) when touring Disney with small children, that working the system for little perks like this wouldn't even begin to make up for the time you lose in other areas (e.g. using rider swap on something like Tower of Terror takes it from a 20ish minute experience w/ FP to almost an hour). So I wouldn't feel bad at all about using it.

It's not like DH going twice w/ DD costs anyone waiting in standby to have to wait any longer than if you went that 2nd time. You "earned" the rider swap pass (and paid $$$$$ to take your family to Disney in the first place)--no one else should care how you go about using it.

 

[slford00]

Our last trip I went with a large group of extended family (15), and we had so many extra rider swap passes for 7DMT from the small kids who couldn't ride, that even after my wife and I had both gone, we had another left over. We were done for the day, though, so we just gave the RS pass to a random couple passing us by on our way out of the park.

Guess that makes me a Disney cheater and unethical based on what people say here.

 

[megster1123]

The problem with these (as you've called yourselves) "Disney cheaters" is that it makes things more difficult for families that follow the rules and use the system fairly. You might think, hey it's just my family and just on a couple rides because hey we have little kids and deserve it, but what about the rest of the families with little kids that use the system fairly? We get stuck waiting behind people that cheat the system. We get stuck explaining to our kids who are waiting and using the system fairly why it's okay for your family to cheat the system. I've been too many places where the loud and overbearing dad pushes his kids to the front of the line, or one parent plays line holder and then herds their 5 kids to the front...I'm sorry but it is not right that I continually am explaining to my kids, well that family must have different rules and aren't always being fair. So call me uptight and self-righteous, whatever makes you feel better about being a cheater.

 

[Meeko5]

It literally makes zero difference to the other riders waiting in line if parent A or parent B is using the swap pass. The same amount of people will be riding in both scenarios. it will not affect anyone, nor will it affect wait times. The group is entitled to get a swap pass based on Disney's rules, who uses it in the end matters only to the family using it.

Just my humble rider swap hoarding 2 cents. we saved the passes and used them later and didnt keep track. We gave some away too. Such jerks we are.

 

[Reddog1134]

My problem isn't that people "cheat" the system. It's that people perpetuate the behavior and encourage it. So more and more people do it until it DOES become a problem. Then Disney alters the rules to make it less convenient or just takes it away completely.

 

[Meeko5]

I did not say I was planning to do this, I was simply asking so I could better understand the ins/outs of the system. We've never used rider swap before.

Rider swap is awesome. It's especially awesome at tiered parks because you can split the FP between adults and kids and everyone still gets to ride without a long wait (like TT and Soarin, for example). Disney knows having too short to ride kids is hard on families with older kids too and this is how they make it work so much better. There are a lot of past threads on here that help explain how to maximize RS so do a search too and read through them.

have an awesome trip!

 

[lauris87]

The textbook, perfect, PC answer is that DH and DD go, you watch the other kids, and then you and DD go later (and she gets to ride twice... the oldest/bravest kids always come out ahead, haha).

If you really have no desire to ride it, then yes, you can use the rider swap pass for DH and DD to both go a 2nd time. You would not be the first family to do this... that day, even.

Some people are WAY too uptight and self-righteous when it comes to Disney. Believe me, you're at such a tremendous disadvantage (as far as waits and efficiency) when touring Disney with small children, that working the system for little perks like this wouldn't even begin to make up for the time you lose in other areas (e.g. using rider swap on something like Tower of Terror takes it from a 20ish minute experience w/ FP to almost an hour). So I wouldn't feel bad at all about using it.

It's not like DH going twice w/ DD costs anyone waiting in standby to have to wait any longer than if you went that 2nd time. You "earned" the rider swap pass (and paid $$$$$ to take your family to Disney in the first place)--no one else should care how you go about using it.

Exactly! Perfect explanation.

 

[disneymom0104]

I think yes, it can be used that way, and nobody would ever EVER know anyway. Say you get the rider switch, with every intention to use it, but you end up feeling a bit ill. Your child wants to ride again- so you send your husband instead of you. Yes, the intention is different if you never had the expectation to ride in the first place- and that is where the disboard moral police come in. But otherwise it makes little to no difference, really.

We are in a new predicament this time as we have 4 kids, only 1 too short to ride things. So even with the rider switch I will have one child unable to ride a second time, which is why, for us, it doesn't make sense to split FP between things like Soarin and TT. We aren't out to get the most out of every ride in the park, or ride as many times as we are possibly able. It IS a pain to have a child too short- everything takes twice as long but we are just used to planning for that. Our best trip was when, at the time, we only had 2 and that 2nd child had just reached 40 inches- being able to ride everything together as a family was amazing. That being said, my husband and I have not ridden together on a "big" ride in over 8 years. Not anyone's problem- we still love going to Disney and obviously wouldn't trade our kiddos for anything Rider switch allows us to each be able to experience the ride, just not together, and I appreciate Disney allowing us to do that.