RFID wristbands for resort guests

[wdw_l0ver]

From the picture shown in the article attached to the OP's post, it looks like the wristbands are similar to a watch. If you don't like it touching your skin or you don't want tan lines, attach it to your belt loop, backpack, purse strap, etc.

I personally feel that these will be easier to keep track of than the card. It's a bit of a pain to keep pulling it out and putting it away. I dislike the lanyards and I've read plenty of people say that the card holders for the lanyards can be unreliable.

 

[zuly]

I want one in every color ...so funky!

 

[LilGMom]

I mentioned this on a different wristband thread but if you Google "Disney World RFID wristbands" you'll see that there were rumors about this (along with the Photopass enhancements) happening back in 2007. Not saying that they aren't finally looking into making this a reality but it could just be another WDW rumor resurfacing. Don't think there is a reason to start jumping to conclusions or speculating on what it will do or won't do.

 

[KYCruiseCrazy]

Just thought I would share an article being discussed on different sites this morning detailing enhancements made possible via RFID wristbands for resort guests. I, for one, look forward to the implementation of such a system.

http://dizfanatic.com/DizTech012.aspx

So, this would mean, I don't have to carry a room key/credit card/cash or maybe photopass. And yet, just like RFID credit cards, easily get your information stolen just like a RFID credit card?

 

[smidgy]

I'm glad that someone got the joke.
While I don't wear a fanny pack, I'm not opposed to them. When I'm at the park my primary concerns are comfort and convenience, not fashion. And I don't wear high heels...at least not when my wife is around.

so, when do you wear the fishnet stockings?


@tan lines.. sorry, hubby checks his tan by the tan line under his wrist watch, so it does make a difference.


early fast passes.. ARRGGH!! i will make ADRS 18O days in advance for dinign, but reservations 6 months ahead of time for a ride/ that is just WAY too much!!!! crazy!

 

[DisneyDreamerK]

So you scan your wristband for fastpass....what if you forget your time? Is there a way to check? The pics show that you scan at the FP booth then you scan at the ride...will something still print out?

I just realized that it asked for your phone number...it will prob text you when your fast pass is ready!

 

[Experiment_626]

Again like you said I'm not going to debate, but I did not/would not take the word offerings as just attractions and to include parades and such(fireworks) that they do after the regular park hours are over.

Other than during hard ticket events, when do they run parades and/or fireworks after regular park hours have ended? I don't think I've ever seen that during evening EMH.

Scott

 

[TDC Nala]

Other than during hard ticket events, when do they run parades and/or fireworks after regular park hours have ended? I don't think I've ever seen that during evening EMH.

Scott

I was thinking, the only park where that would even be relevant is MK...and I don't recall them ever running fireworks or parades after regular operating hours, except for hard-ticket parties.

 

[magicluvinmom]

So, this would mean, I don't have to carry a room key/credit card/cash or maybe photopass. And yet, just like RFID credit cards, easily get your information stolen just like a RFID credit card?

I have been wondering the exact same thing? It would be so easy for people to steal as they walked by u and bumped into u and stuff. The question is I am not sure what they would do with the info but it is still scary. Also I like writing down my photopass # and putting it in the safe in case I lose the card. How will my photos be salvaged if I were to lose my armband? Surly they have accounted for this though

 

[chartle]

Also I like writing down my photopass # and putting it in the safe in case I lose the card. How will my photos be salvaged if I were to lose my armband? Surly they have accounted for this though

Your "photopass card" would be attached to your reservation. So it would be just like if you lost your KTTW card.

In fact think of it this way, the new system would let you use your KTTW card as a photopass card.

 

[magicluvinmom]

So, this would mean, I don't have to carry a room key/credit card/cash or maybe photopass. And yet, just like RFID credit cards, easily get your information stolen just like a RFID credit card?

I agree that the info is to easily stolen, I mean all the crooks have to do is bump into y with one of those scanners. I am hoping bag search would limit this problem though and unlike a credit card I am not sure what they would do with this particular info? It would just be like someone stealing your kttwc right? Not like stealing a credit card with ss# and stuff tied to it.

I mentioned this on a different wristband thread but if you Google "Disney World RFID wristbands" you'll see that there were rumors about this (along with the Photopass enhancements) happening back in 2007. Not saying that they aren't finally looking into making this a reality but it could just be another WDW rumor resurfacing. Don't think there is a reason to start jumping to conclusions or speculating on what it will do or won't do.

I completely agree they applied for the enhanced fp patents in 2007 as well as some other stuff. I posted a link to an original article from back in 2007 on the fp thread. All u have to do though is google Disney fast pass patents and u get a lot of stuff some things have been sutton around waiting to happen for years now

 

[pilferk]

I am hoping that you can get the choice to get the regular plastic tickets or the new wristbands. I can't imagine a young child tolerating a giant RFID wristband very well in the heat and humidity. (I can't imagine many adults tolerating it either!)

FYI, they're not so giant. Or at least they don't have to be, depending on the media Disney chooses.

They' can be a pretty thin band (maybe a 1/4 inch wide).

You can get them around the size of the wrist bands you have to wear for MNSSHP or MVMCP, too. And plenty of folks wear those without much complaint.

 

[stitch1094]

What a stupid idea.

I cant imagine wearing a stupid band on my wrist my entire vacation, especially in the summer months. I hope Disney does not do this!

 

[jcemom]

You can get them around the size of the wrist bands you have to wear for MNSSHP or MVMCP, too. And plenty of folks wear those without much complaint.

That's just for 5 or so hours though, not for an entire week or more.

 

[pilferk]

That's just for 5 or so hours though, not for an entire week or more.

Well...they're not like hospital wrist bands (or even the MNSSHP/MVMCP bands). The CAN come on and off pretty easily.

So....you could, conceivable, carry them in your pocket just like you do your KTTW card.

And you can certainly take them off when you get back to your room (or you're on the bus, or in the car, or at the pool).

I just don't see the issue..but then, I wear a watch just about every day with a thicker watch band than some of the rfid wrist band stock you can get.

 

[sukhakuli]

I really don't see small kids wearing these wristbands. I signed my kids up for summer camp at Sea World this year, and on the last day of camp the parents could come and watch the evening shows and have dinner with the kids at camp before they spent the night. So they gave us all wristbands. And my 3 year old kept tugging at it and crying almost the whole night because she hated it so much.

I'm always the ticket holder in the family, and I like having credit card sized cards that I can just keep in my wallet. I know right where they are, and it's a snap to get to them. If they are going to go with wristbands, it would be nice if they had an option to clip them to a bag or a belt loop or keychain or something, because I'm going to have to juggle 4 or 5 of these in my bag because I know no one in the family will wear them. And if they are easy to get off, my little kids will be losing them every 2 seconds, anyway, so they still can't have them even if they will wear them, KWIM?

Also, I hope you can't get fastpasses from home. The 180 ADR system is already stretching how we vacation a bit, and having to plan out rides we want to ride in advance as well would make this really difficult.

 

[kaligal]

I agree that the info is to easily stolen, I mean all the crooks have to do is bump into y with one of those scanners. I am hoping bag search would limit this problem though...

Bag searches stop nothing. They just make some people feel safe.

All a crook has to do is be smart enough to put stuff in their pockets. It's not rocket science, KWIM?

 

[pilferk]

Bag searches stop nothing. They just make some people feel safe.

All a crook has to do is be smart enough to put stuff in their pockets. It's not rocket science, KWIM?

And an rfid reader can be about the size of a key chain fob or usb drive....and connected to a standard iphone.

No bag search is going to get those pulled.

 

[jcemom]

Well...they're not like hospital wrist bands (or even the MNSSHP/MVMCP bands). The CAN come on and off pretty easily.

So....you could, conceivable, carry them in your pocket just like you do your KTTW card.

And you can certainly take them off when you get back to your room (or you're on the bus, or in the car, or at the pool).

I just don't see the issue..but then, I wear a watch just about every day with a thicker watch band than some of the rfid wrist band stock you can get.

My main issue (security aside, because I don't really know much about that side of it, and haven't taken the time to look into it) is really that I am the carrier of KTTW cards for my entire family, and I am the designated fastpass runner. I do not want to put five wristbands in my pocket. Not only would that be a little too bulky, but I can see them tangling and falling everywhere each time I pulled them out. The cards stack easily and fit right into my pocket. They're not even noticeable.

 

[FireDancer]

This is what I posted on another thread on this topic:

I like the RFID technology and have no objections to it on anything than a security front. While expensive to implement I think long term it wouldn't be much more expensive especially if it replaces at least some labor cost. I imagine it would be a rubber bracelet which would make it durable, easy to remove, and not all that expensive on a per-piece basis.

They would be able to know where people are and could manage things like the buses and crowd flow more easily. I could think of a lot of advantages to having this system.

My issue comes with the security. The only thing that should be stored on the actual chip is a reference ID. The actual guest information should be stored in a secure database and queried with the ID from the wrist band. If the first consideration is security it can be done right but, sadly, security is often an after-thought when implementing these kinds of solutions. The best way to handle the encryption is most likely a dual key pair (public/private keys like SSL). It is transactionally lightweight and the public keys can be easily revoked or set to expire. Also, if they are going to allow charging they really need to have a second factor of authentication. A simple PIN (not stored on the RFID bracelet or hashed if it is) would drastically increase the security. In reality the key to the world cards are most likely not very secure either.