I totally agree that the variables make these figures questionable. You can't pop numbers into a two-minute equation and expect to get a quality answer.Hmm, I think it gepends on a lot of variables. Is your house paid off? Etc... We could live on a third of what we make if we downsized our house. I think the 80% is way high. We don't spend that now.
Using myself as an example, these factors weren't considered:
- My mortgage is paid-off; thus, my cost of living is greatly reduced.
- I am 2/3 of the way to earning a pension that's as sure as anything is these days; yes, I'm a bit worried about it, but there's nothing I can do to make it 100% certain.
- The women in my family tend to live a looong time; thus, I need to be prepared to support myself a long time in retirement.
- We've always been frugal, and I expect that when we retire we'll actually live week to week on LESS than we do now (the kids'll be gone, we're going to downsize our house, we'll have only one car, and we'll have time to do more things like growing vegetables).
Each of these things alters my retirement number a bit!
That's our goal too: Use my pension and our social security to pay our bills, and reserve our savings for necessary but out-of-the-ordinary expenses (like a new car) and occasional vacations.I tell you one thing, my Dad "technically" lives off of SS income. He owns his (very nice) home outright, as well as owning his (very very nice!) car. SS takes care of his monthly expenses, he only needs to spend his income off his retirement investments for fun stuff like vacations or upgrades to his house (he just remodeled his perfectly good kitchen, for example).
The thing is, you hear stories like this . . . and you also hear stories about people (usually women) who've outlived their savings and who are forced to choose between groceries and medicines.My Dad died at 64. He didn't do half of what he wanted to do.
That is why my Mom is getting her SS at 62 and is traveling with me next year. We are going on cruises, going to NYC & DC and going to the beach. I keep telling her that I'm not interest in inheriting anything, go ahead and spend it all!
The only right answer is a balance between saving and splurging, but that's not easy to manage when the number of years you'll live is an unknown!
Don't count yourselves short just yet. I know that at your age my husband and I were just making it (though we did max out our 401K money every single month), and in our early 30s suddenly everything became so much easier -- which made no sense because we'd added another child to our household. But it was at that point that our salaries really stepped up beyond "entry level", and we started to see the benefit of compound interest working on our side.Retirement? Yeah right. We are 29 and 32 we barely have anything leftover at the end of the month to go towards retirement and we haven't even had kids yet.
Yeah, it's easy to say, "But today's economy . . . ", and there's some truth to that. But every decade has its own issues. We graduated from college in the late 80s, when jobs were easy to find and stocks were paying well . . . but at the same time, home prices were skyrocketing and our first mortgage was at 11.5%. Also, there was great pressure among young college graduates to spend, spend, spend -- credit card debt's nothing to worry about! -- and frugality was something at which to laugh.
What you need to do at your age is focus on making good choices, and know that it'll fall into place -- even if it doesn't seem like it will. Key points:
- Avoid debt
- Max out your 401K every month; something in your budget can be cut, and someone lives on a couple hundred/month less than you do -- you can do it
- Pay something extra towards your house every month
This is why I'm fully convinced that the first step in financial security is choosing a college path that DOES NOT include debt.So many of my friends wish they could start a family or stay home with the kids they plan to have, but since their student loan payments work out to more than a modest mortgage, living on one income or taking on the expense of a child just isn't possible. And I suspect for many it will end up cycling around to their children; student loan debt and retirement planning leave no room for college savings, so the kids will have to take out (even larger) student loans to cover their own education. I don't want my kids in that position if we can help it.