Reservation within a Reservation?

[WilsonFlyer]

OK. This one's weird. But once I started thinking about it, it didn't sound so crazy after all.

We've always wanted to stay at a Treehouse at SSR but never have. It's too many points for us for an entire week given the limited benefit we see in it.

It occurred to me this morning to check availability for Thanksgiving just for fun. When it popped back one night, I turned to my wife and said, "It's on my birthday. We could just leave our stuff at AKK, keep that day at AKK, and go over for one day and just take what we need." We just laughed and laughed and then it dawned on me. Maybe that's not as crazy of an idea as it sounded when I said it out loud. It would certainly make even more sense (to me) for a couple of days mid-stay, especially during a studio stay.

Which brought up this (I think, at least.) interesting question. I told my wife that surely people do this, as dumb as it sounds on the surface, it's really not at all, especially if you have the points and that's what you want to do.

Is it even possible to do this? I can't see why it wouldn't be. More to the point. Has anybody done this? Do any of you do this as a strategy?

 

[Sandisw]

You can certainly hold multiple reservations at once. The problem is when you try to check in to the 2nd one, there are issues with MB and those working. They have to check you out of the other,

I book double nights when we split stay most of the time. I keep lead guest different but we cant be checked in to resort 2 until we have offically checked out of resort 1...if we don’t make a point of having the front desk do it, we never get a text for room ready.

I think if there is at least one guest who is staying at AKV while you and you and wife were at treehouse, its not an issue.

I did that years back for my son and DIL. We had them unchecked from our resort so they could go to VGF, and when they came back, they put them back in our room at BRV.

 

[WilsonFlyer]

The only reason we don't do split stays is because we hate packing up and moving. I take a LOT of electronics for work and a LOT of camera gear every trip. I hate being there and wanting something and knowing it's at home and not right at my fingertips. It's a character flaw of mine.

I'm not really following the flow of the logistics of what you're saying. I get the technical challenge of the room key. I guess what I'm hearing as the take-away is to use different adults as the primary on each reservation and their MB would only open (and have charge privileges) at the resort where their reservation lived and for the duration of that stay only (in the case of the lesser reservation)? Essentially, they are only there as far as the resorts are concerned, while they are inside their own reservation.

I really am considering doing this just for the heck of it. I think it would be fun and sounds like something not everybody does.

I also think it would be a very efficient way to spend a night or two at BWV, BCV, or GFV without having to shell out all the points for a full stay and having to worry about getting them at 7 months. Some might call it a waste of points, but if you hate split stays simply because of the hassle of moving as much as we do, I could see making it a strategy. I'd probably pick up a resale contract to add some points to do this if I could figure out the logistics.

 

[Sandisw]

No, people can’t be checked in to two rooms at the same time. Keeping leads different only ensures that DVC doesn’t cancel as a duplicate.

But, when you go to check in to the treehouse, they can’t do it if you are checked in to the AKV room. So, you wont be able to get into the treehouse until officially checked out.

It has only worked for us when not all the guests from resort 1 were staying a few nights elsewhere. Anytime all of us were going, we had to be out of Resort 1...basically, once they checked out we wouldn’t have access to go back. Now, we were not, but if you and your wife are the only guests, I think it would be an Issue,

The bigger problem is no way of knowing exaclty if they can get it to work someway since you dont want to actually leave the first one is when you are there.

Now, what I don’t know is if you book the night in only one name, and see if you can get the other as a day guest, but I know from experience all guests can not be official guests at two resorts and Disney requires you to register everyone.

 

[YourEveryDayAdam]

Sounds like the easiest thing to do would be to keep 1 person off the AKV reservation and have them be on the THV reservation. Their magic band will be the only magic band that can open the THV door. But, if you're like me, you've got a box full of magic bands for each person already...so not a big deal. Also, their magic band won't be able to open the AKV door.

 

[Donna M]

Keep waiting for more posters to chime in because I believe I've read of how it has been accomplished.

It really doesn't seem like it should be a problem if the lead guests are different.

 

[Deb & Bill]

Sounds like the easiest thing to do would be to keep 1 person off the AKV reservation and have them be on the THV reservation. Their magic band will be the only magic band that can open the THV door. But, if you're like me, you've got a box full of magic bands for each person already...so not a big deal. Also, their magic band won't be able to open the AKV door.

Anyone staying in the villa must be on the reservation. You can't leave someone off the reservation at AKV and they still stay there.

 

[Dean]

OK. This one's weird. But once I started thinking about it, it didn't sound so crazy after all.

We've always wanted to stay at a Treehouse at SSR but never have. It's too many points for us for an entire week given the limited benefit we see in it.

It occurred to me this morning to check availability for Thanksgiving just for fun. When it popped back one night, I turned to my wife and said, "It's on my birthday. We could just leave our stuff at AKK, keep that day at AKK, and go over for one day and just take what we need." We just laughed and laughed and then it dawned on me. Maybe that's not as crazy of an idea as it sounded when I said it out loud. It would certainly make even more sense (to me) for a couple of days mid-stay, especially during a studio stay.

Which brought up this (I think, at least.) interesting question. I told my wife that surely people do this, as dumb as it sounds on the surface, it's really not at all, especially if you have the points and that's what you want to do.

Is it even possible to do this? I can't see why it wouldn't be. More to the point. Has anybody done this? Do any of you do this as a strategy?

It's up to you, it's workable if you plan but you have to do some finagling with the people listed, maybe a middle name or initials only for those that are duplicated. I personally wouldn't be it's your choice. There have been similar previous discussions on the matter. I know people that own off site timeshares and sometimes get a night in a studio for dining plan, pool access and to ave a respite location.

 

[WilsonFlyer]

Anyone staying in the villa must be on the reservation. You can't leave someone off the reservation at AKV and they still stay there.

Aside from the obvious violation and with no inference at all that it's OK to circumvent the system, you and I both know there are people all the time staying at the resorts that aren't on the reservation. It's the proverbial elephant in the room that nobody talks about but we all know things like 5 in a (non-supported) studio is done all the time. I'd be willing to bet that sort of abuse isn't exclusive to studios either.

Look. I'm not trying to circumvent any rules at all, as I'm sure you know. Quite the contrary, actually. I'm trying to figure out how to do it within the confines of the "system."

Without trying to sound hard to get along with, it's Disney's responsibility to work it out anyway in the end. If I own both reservations and paid for them, I'm pretty sure they'd have to accommodate it somehow. I'm just trying to figure out a way to do it without being a pain in the butt and without involving "them" at all if I don't have to.

 

[Deb & Bill]

Aside from the obvious violation and with no inference at all that it's OK to circumvent the system, you and I both know there are people all the time staying at the resorts that aren't on the reservation. It's the proverbial elephant in the room that nobody talks about but we all know things like 5 in a (non-supported) studio is done all the time. I'd be willing to bet that sort of abuse isn't exclusive to studios either.

Look. I'm not trying to circumvent any rules at all, as I'm sure you know. Quite the contrary, actually. I'm trying to figure out how to do it within the confines of the "system."

Without trying to sound hard to get along with, it's Disney's responsibility to work it out anyway in the end. If I own both reservations and paid for them, I'm pretty sure they'd have to accommodate it somehow. I'm just trying to figure out a way to do it without being a pain in the butt and without involving "them" at all if I don't have to.

Book by calling and put Middle Initial Last Name for each of you. You'll get a magic band good for THV only.

 

[Fangorn]

So wouldn't this work?

Set up a new MDE account using a different email address. Use variations of your names in that account - say first initial, middle name. Or add middle names if they aren't on the AK

Book the THV using those names and that email address. Don't bother getting magic bands.

From DVC's perspective, you've booked a second stay for a guest/relative.

From an overall Disney perspective, there are 4 different people on two separate reservations. There's no way the systems can connect the 'you' on the AKK reservation to the alternate 'you' on the THV reservation. When you check in for the THV, just ask for a key card for you room, since that's all you really need. Your MB for the AKK stay would still be active for tickets and everything else.

Steve

 

[WilsonFlyer]

Book by calling and put Middle Initial Last Name for each of you. You'll get a magic band good for THV only.

That makes plenty of sense. Akums Razor.

Thanks.

 

[WilsonFlyer]

So wouldn't this work?

Set up a new MDE account using a different email address. Use variations of your names in that account - say first initial, middle name. Or add middle names if they aren't on the AK

Book the THV using those names and that email address. Don't bother getting magic bands.

From DVC's perspective, you've booked a second stay for a guest/relative.

From an overall Disney perspective, there are 4 different people on two separate reservations. There's no way the systems can connect the 'you' on the AKK reservation to the alternate 'you' on the THV reservation. When you check in for the THV, just ask for a key card for you room, since that's all you really need. Your MB for the AKK stay would still be active for tickets and everything else.

Steve

That would certainly work also, but I suspect Bill's solution is easier and would even work better. I can't see any reason you'd even need to set up an MDE account in his situation. You're just x number of hotel guests with MBs to open the rooms and even charge potentially. Chunk the bands when done (or get key cards as you suggested and chunk those) and you're finished. Rinse and repeat for the next if you did more than one.

Both solutions are clever and neither circumvents anything. I think Bill's is the easiest and just simplifies exactly the same thing you're saying.

 

[Dean]

That would certainly work also, but I suspect Bill's solution is easier and would even work better. I can't see any reason you'd even need to set up an MDE account in his situation. You're just x number of hotel guests with MBs to open the rooms and even charge potentially. Chunk the bands when done (or get key cards as you suggested and chunk those) and you're finished. Rinse and repeat for the next if you did more than one.

Both solutions are clever and neither circumvents anything. I think Bill's is the easiest and just simplifies exactly the same thing you're saying.

I would do middle name (or first if you go by your middle name) and I probably would set up an MDE account separately. It'll give you more options going forward. Also realize that come the first of the year, Magic Bands are no longer free. You can use your phone to unlock, I assume this requires MDE and/or you'll have to pay for bands.

 

[Sandisw]

Before we start listing ways around all guests being listed on a reservation, which is Disney policy and was not the info OP is seeking, I’m closing this down.