Request for restraint in DIS posting, and ideas for forum etiquette

[BriarRosie]

May I start the "I Heart Be" fan club?

Bravo.

 

[Maleficent2]

We also have DIS posting Guidelines that spell out our rules. These include no advertising, no profanity, no fighting, no spam. The things that are suggested by posters in this thread are NOT guidelines, but more unofficial and unenforceable suggestions for posters. There's no problem with that. But any communications between posters need to be made respectfully, and with the understanding that this forum is made up of many different people of many different ages and backgrounds, and posting styles will be varied.

I have quoated this before several times but it seems to have been forgotten or ignored. Thanks for the official posting.

I also have stated that this is why I love the DIS so much that we do not have ridiculous rules about posting that other boards have. I think maybe after the very stressful day that VMK put us all through nerves were alittle on edge here and some of the postings just got under people's skins. As a stated in a previous post to this thread I can see both sides meaning I see where Be was coming from but the DIS has it's quidelines and none were crossed.

I know I did have a problem with one post started by a child calling people who help others in VMK cheaters. I had to just ignore it finally because I knew if I did not I would make someone upset. And remind myself that a child is a child and their perception is different that mine.

Also Captain just wanted to point out wow a dbl post and spam all in the same thread shame on you!

I hope today will be a better day here on the DIS VMK and in the VMK!

HAve a magical day everyone!

Mal

 

[GBShorts]

umm isn't lol an abreviation?

Yup. sure is. I use LOL. and ROFL. Just like SHE was referring to, hence my asking her to marry me since we think a like.

Those, in my opinion are much different than pls, plz, wat, wut etcetera where you simply shorten the word by a letter or two. Takes much longer to type out Laughing Out Loud than LOL but what instead of wat takes just one single letter.

 

[redbaybound]

To each his own

 

[Captain Brain]

I have quoated this before several times but it seems to have been forgotten or ignored. Thanks for the official posting.

I also have stated that this is why I love the DIS so much that we do not have ridiculous rules about posting that other boards have. I think maybe after the very stressful day that VMK put us all through nerves were alittle on edge here and some of the postings just got under people's skins. As a stated in a previous post to this thread I can see both sides meaning I see where Be was coming from but the DIS has it's quidelines and none were crossed.

I know I did have a problem with one post started by a child calling people who help others in VMK cheaters. I had to just ignore it finally because I knew if I did not I would make someone upset. And remind myself that a child is a child and their perception is different that mine.

Also Captain just wanted to point out wow a dbl post and spam all in the same thread shame on you!

I hope today will be a better day here on the DIS VMK and in the VMK!

HAve a magical day everyone!

Mal

Sorry Mal,I couldn't find the delete post icon.You really need one.

 

[KathyTX]

Posters cannot delete posts, but they can edit them.

Typically, when someone double posts, they edit the second post so it says something like "Please ignore- double posted" to avoid confusion.

 

[Chickysmom]

Um, ed quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

hagen

Hagen....did I miss something? Did you forget to eat your popcorn today?

What does this mean? Have you cast a "flame" spell on me?

 

[hagen]

Hagen....did I miss something? Did you forget to eat your popcorn today?

What does this mean? Have you cast a "flame" spell on me?

It is latin, dear lady. "Who watches the watchmen?" I am a bit cantankerous about guardians of morals and such. Then again, I am not seeing a lot of filth on this board, just frustration from the weekend. No flames, sweet Chickysmom. Smiles for you only!

hagen

 

[BuddyGenie]

It is latin, dear lady. "Who watches the watchmen?" I am a bit cantankerous about guardians of morals and such. Then again, I am not seeing a lot of filth on this board, just frustration from the weekend. No flames, sweet Chickysmom. Smiles for you only!

hagen

Cantankerous about guardians of morals? Looks like I'm not the only non-conformist thinker around here.

I hope this doesn't mean I'm getting "warned".

 

[*NikkiBell*]

My two cents....from a teacher who worked 60 hours last week...

Granted I am not posting non-stop like I have done over the summer, I have been "lurking" on a daily basis to keep current on what is going on. I have noticed a few double threads, lots and lots of new DISers, and a considerable amount of aggravation over the VMK Maze Event. While I have only been an official member since early this summer, I have visited the boards for about a year and always found it to be a warm place for young and old alike.

I must admit I was a bit surprised at this post. It just felt quite out of place to me. This could be due to my expecting something like this from a site regulator/moderator, but not another member. I recognize it is important to teach children about online etiquette, but that should be done in a technology class like it is done in my school district, not by a post on a message board. Now, before you all hit the reply button on this comment, I do want to say that I think proper use of a message board site can truly model how to act and we can encourage certain behavior, but not necessarily teach. Teaching needs to be left to the parents...and, of course, technology and content area teachers.

I agree with a few posters who are parents of children new to the DIS Boards. I would feel a little hurt by another poster stating that behavior my child may be involving himself in is annoying. Pulling a parent (or, in some cases, the child) into a private conversation might be more appropriate. Ideally, this is the job of a moderator and not of another poster. I can imagine how many young children felt bad about their typing or communication skills by this post.

All in all, I think that JeanJoe's intentions were honest and not to hurt others' feelings. Still, the post can have this affect if one interprets it that way. The time-old cliche of how easy it is to misinterpret things over the Internet holds true here yet again. We need to be much more accepting and patient as time goes on here. Afterall, who are we to say how someone should type or what questions he asks? We, too, are members and we, too, are guilty of these things.

A message board is just that....one of discussion. I do not see why it is an issue to have to read through a few replies to find a certain post or bit of information, or to have to scroll down the page because many people have thoughts or questions about a similar topic. If someone does not like these things, do not visit and worries will be over.

Please no flames. I too am entitled to my own opinion and feel it really is not that big of a deal to have to read or skim through a bit more posts. And, it is ultimately up to the parents of children to teach them how to act, not others. This holds true for online and off; what we CAN do though is make all feel welcome, not attack them for their opinions or beliefs, and assist them in understanding what has become an "accepted" way of posting.

 

[vellamint]

I think I "heart" you NikkiBell

 

[iluvcountry]

Ok, I have noticed a lot of arguing and I must say something.

Be is giving us a reminder to be careful of what we post, he is not trying to be mean.

There are kids on here, and I must say that most of them that I know are very kind.

Of course, there are going to be a few people that post a lot at first, and that is because they are new. Don't get mad at it. You were new once too.

I am not trying to be mean with my post. Just trying to stop some of the arguing I have seen.

 

[ScroogesNephew]

. . . GO COLT'S!

Oops, guess I violated rule #5. Darn.

 

[tolkien7]

I still think Be was right on with this post. Not all children are blessed with the kind of parents we see here. How can you PM a parent who has no idea his/her child plays VMK and/or posts on these boards? As a teacher myself (and I have taught from middle school through higher ed) I have seen plenty of children who have parents who simply do not care. Period. Perhaps those children who have no parental supervision would benefit from a kind word from Be regarding good posting behavior.

 

[*NikkiBell*]

I still think Be was right on with this post. Not all children are blessed with the kind of parents we see here. How can you PM a parent who has no idea his/her child plays VMK and/or posts on these boards? As a teacher myself (and I have taught from middle school through higher ed) I have seen plenty of children who have parents who simply do not care. Period. Perhaps those children who have no parental supervision would benefit from a kind word from Be regarding good posting behavior.

I am a fifth grade teacher myself and have also taught kindergarten and seventh. If you read my original message again, you will see that I wrote this "might" be the correct way to handle a situation as thus. Likewise, I 100% recognize that not all parents are computer savy or even know what exactly their children are doing online.

HOWEVER, I would not want another adult poster telling my child how to act. Encouragement, as I have said in my original post, is one thing, but instruction is another. Parenting needs to be left to the parents and teachers in real life, not online.

If a particular member does consistently violate the rules though, I feel it is the job of the moderator or webmaster to confront this person, adult or child. Again, we can encourage positive behavior on a 1 to 1 basis, but not instruct it unless we have the priviledge to do so. This is not an insult to JeanJoe, but just how I personally feel.


And to Vellamint...

 

[GBShorts]

HOWEVER, I would not want another adult poster telling my child how to act. Encouragement, as I have said in my original post, is one thing, but instruction is another. Parenting needs to be left to the parents and teachers in real life, not online.

When your life is being a teacher it's not so easy to NOT help children.

It's in your blood. You, as a teacher should know that.



Also, I think the point was UNSUPERVISED kids can sometimes be the problem (new adults too! LOL!) so do the parents really care if their child is corrected anyway? Just a thought.

 

[BriarRosie]

Personally, I thought JeanJoe was just giving a gentle reminder to everyone.
I did not think he was telling children specifically what they can or cannot do.

I think he was reminding all of us, and for that, I am appreciative.
Why is it being taken so seriously as a slam? I don't get it.

In the 10 years I've participated in message boards and newsgroups, all
of the moderated groups have had guidelines for posting. I have always
felt that it's appropriate to post rules or remind people about the rules if
things get out of control. Since we did not have specific moderators until
recently, a poster who is respectful of others in his posts has done so.

Ok, on a lighter note...I'm doing the single digit dance.

 

[Tinkerbelle739]

First let me say that I cannot believe I have not been asked to be a Moderator on this board!!! I am shocked!

Second, I dont agree with Be, which is a rare occasion.

Unlike the unfriendly (IMHO) other VMK boards, the DIS does not worry about repeat threads or "Spam". We welcome everyone's opinion or thought as long as it meets the standards of the DIS and takes into account that many on this board are kids.

I believe it is up to the DIS user to determine what thread he or she opens and if he or she should respond.

I like that the DIS is a friendly welcoming place and if we start to delete repeat threads and ask others to delete their posts or watch their thread count, it will become exactly what it is not.

Have a Wonderful Dis Day!

 

[ScroogesNephew]

. . . aren't we ALL teachers?

 

[Tishke]

Not to add fuel to the flames, but can't we just let this go?? Everyone has posted their little thoughts on Be's post, yet this thread just keeps growing and growing and I don't see why it can't be chalked up to a difference in opinion and let die? Don't we have more important things to talk about....like when are we getting that Mansion Suit????