Request for restraint in DIS posting, and ideas for forum etiquette

[RicksCafe]

What a strange turn of events on this thread. Bezoar suggests a degree of order in a libertarian environment and eventually is seen as endangering the parent-child bond and as stepping into a role reserved solely for teachers. I've never thought that the ability to bear a child or to get a teaching certificate necessarily entailed virtue.

Many of those who disagreed with Bezoar's encouragement of "post-restraint," have themselves asserted that he should not make such a post. If you think that Bezoar should not suggest things to other posters, it stands to reason that neither should you. Simply ignore his post and it will, assuredly, get lost in the clutter.

Also, as harsh as it may seem, if this board is the truly libertarian environment that so many want it to be and remain, then children are afforded only the same protections guaranteed to adults. If encouraging restraint violates a child's sensibilities, then there is no protected speech on this board.

 

[*NikkiBell*]

When your life is being a teacher it's not so easy to NOT help children.

It's in your blood. You, as a teacher should know that.



Also, I think the point was UNSUPERVISED kids can sometimes be the problem (new adults too! LOL!) so do the parents really care if their child is corrected anyway? Just a thought.

Yes, this is true Shorts. I cringe when I see kids running in a store, etc., but know that it would not be my place to correct this behavior.

If it was my child, as I said above...MY child and not anybody else's, *I* would care.

 

[*NikkiBell*]

First let me say that I cannot believe I have not been asked to be a Moderator on this board!!! I am shocked!

Second, I dont agree with Be, which is a rare occasion.

Unlike the unfriendly (IMHO) other VMK boards, the DIS does not worry about repeat threads or "Spam". We welcome everyone's opinion or thought as long as it meets the standards of the DIS and takes into account that many on this board are kids.

I believe it is up to the DIS user to determine what thread he or she opens and if he or she should respond.

I like that the DIS is a friendly welcoming place and if we start to delete repeat threads and ask others to delete their posts or watch their thread count, it will become exactly what it is not.

Have a Wonderful Dis Day!

I agree 100% with this and your other post Tishy. I'm not exactly sure what has happened that we can't have a friendly discussion without it turning into a brawl. It really has caused me to avoid the boards lately. I was polite with everything I said in my posts and even mention a few times I was not slamming anyone. I really do not get it.

 

[Maleficent2]

First let me say that I cannot believe I have not been asked to be a Moderator on this board!!! I am shocked!

you can't beleive you have not been asked I can not beleive I have not been asked either maybe in my case I am too opinionated

Second, I dont agree with Be, which is a rare occasion.

Unlike the unfriendly (IMHO) other VMK boards, the DIS does not worry about repeat threads or "Spam". We welcome everyone's opinion or thought as long as it meets the standards of the DIS and takes into account that many on this board are kids.

I believe it is up to the DIS user to determine what thread he or she opens and if he or she should respond.

I like that the DIS is a friendly welcoming place and if we start to delete repeat threads and ask others to delete their posts or watch their thread count, it will become exactly what it is not.

Have a Wonderful Dis Day!

Could not have said it better myself...wait I have said the same thing time and again....that is why I love the DIS!!!!


Mal

 

[GBShorts]

I was never angry. In fact, most things I'm debating in usually turn into arguments (I SUCK at debating) and I was pleasantly surprised that this hadn't, at least toward me, turned ugly.

But I thought of something and I wonder what you all think.

It seems to me, that as a parent if someone saw my kid screwing around and I wasn't there to witness it that I would want them to correct them kindly.

Any other opinions on this? I just think the whole "Don't tell my kid what to do!" thing is a little selfish- doesn't it take a village? It seems to me that if a kid is screwing off and the parent doesn't fix it, somebody has to-this might be a contributor to the AWFUL behavior we are seeing in schools. Nobody's willing to stand up and say "No! That's not right!"

I guess I think this way because my mother was that way. *channels SPShorts (serious pink shorts, my beloved mother)* Don't screw around. If you are, and I'm not there to fix it, I hope another responsible adult has the where-with-all to call you on the carpet.

(I'm most certainly NOT saying this in response to anyone's posts here about their children, it was just a random thought that entered my mind while scrubbing away in the shower)

Again kiddo's. Thanks for the debate-please no flames, I'm just curious as to your opinions, as I respect you all muchly.

 

[pixiepal53]

What a strange turn of events on this thread. Bezoar suggests a degree of order in a libertarian environment and eventually is seen as endangering the parent-child bond and as stepping into a role reserved solely for teachers. I've never thought that the ability to bear a child or to get a teaching certificate necessarily entailed virtue.

Many of those who disagreed with Bezoar's encouragement of "post-restraint," have themselves asserted that he should not make such a post. If you think that Bezoar should not suggest things to other posters, it stands to reason that neither should you. Simply ignore his post and it will, assuredly, get lost in the clutter.

Also, as harsh as it may seem, if this board is the truly libertarian environment that so many want it to be and remain, then children are afforded only the same protections guaranteed to adults. If encouraging restraint violates a child's sensibilities, then there is no protected speech on this board.

Here, Here! Couldn't have said it better myself.

Hey, Shorts...recently my mom was at Target, saw some kid screwing around and opening packages, she kindly reprimanded the kid ("Is that something that you should be doing, young man?") as his parents were nowhere in site. As she is doing this up walks his mom, who then proceeds to ream my mom for "punishing" her son. This woman actually then followed my mom around the store, yelling at her. Wish I was there...although then I might have ended up in the slammer!

 

[Kelsie]

I could respond but, I think I'll just move on to the next thread.

 

[redbaybound]

Yes I would want another adult to tell my kids kindly but firmly when they were behaving inappropriately. (Then again I have been known to tell a strange child to stop their offensive behavior.) If I thought the other adult was mistaken I would explain to my child later that different people have different standards. I would definitely support any adult who reminded my children to obey the rules.

I don't think that telling each other what to do is the problem though, Shorts. I think "the problem with todays kids" is that they are rarely told no. Many parents do not limit themselves let alone their children. I cringe everytime my friend says to me, "my son just won't go to bed." What!?! It's bedtime, I know you don't like it, and its ok to feel sad but good night.

Well, that's my two cents worth.

Red

By the way Ears, RIGHT ON!

 

[*NikkiBell*]

Yes I would want another adult to tell my kids kindly but firmly when they were behaving inappropriately. (Then again I have been known to tell a strange child to stop their offensive behavior.) If I thought the other adult was mistaken I would explain to my child later that different people have different standards. I would definitely support any adult who reminded my children to obey the rules.

I don't think that telling each other what to do is the problem though, Shorts. I think "the problem with todays kids" is that they are rarely told no. Many parents do not limit themselves let alone their children. I cringe everytime my friend says to me, "my son just won't go to bed." What!?! It's bedtime, I know you don't like it, and its ok to feel sad but good night.

Well, that's my two cents worth.

Red

By the way Ears, RIGHT ON!

Hi Red,

This reminds me of something a colleague of mine told me the other day. She was scheduling a student to make up a test before school with his mother. After settling on a day and time, the mother said verbatum: "Okay, I will check with [son's name] to see if this is good for him." What??? HELLO! Your child needs to make up an important test...just bring him in! There's no okay, let me check and see if he wants to come into school early nonsense. Sheesh!