Reporter and Camerman killed on air.

[pat fan]

What do you mean???

2cnd Amendment.

 

[TLSnell1981]

I watched some of the you tube videos of the shooter when he was at work in front of the news camera. I thought he was very good at what he did.

TC

His previous employers disagree with you. He scored poorly in performance reviews and was dubbed "the human tape recorder". They said he was stiff, confusing and couldn't read a teleprompter.

 

[kimblebee]

2cnd Amendment.

There were no semi automatics back when the constitution was written..just muskets soooo...

 

[pat fan]

There were no semi automatics back when the constitution was written..just muskets soooo...

Makes no difference.
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
I don't see where it states only muskets count, but I do see "shall not be infringed". There are basic safety measures that should be adhered to. Background checks first and foremost. If someone is mentally ill they can't legally own. No criminal records. Gun owners don not want guns in nut jobs hands. Trust me. The problem is when something horrific happens everyone (exaggeration) starts talking about banning guns, and limiting guns etc...How about we work on some core issues instead? If someone is intent on harm, any weapon will do. How about we work on why they want to do harm instead?

 

[kimblebee]

Makes no difference.
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
I don't see where it states only muskets count, but I do see "shall not be infringed". There are basic safety measures that should be adhered to. Background checks first and foremost. If someone is mentally ill they can't legally own. No criminal records. Gun owners don not want guns in nut jobs hands. Trust me. The problem is when something horrific happens everyone (exaggeration) starts talking about banning guns, and limiting guns etc...How about we work on some core issues instead? If someone is intent on harm, any weapon will do. How about we work on why they want to do harm instead?

IMO this isn't the thread for this so I won't answer.

 

[pat fan]

IMO this isn't the thread for this so I won't answer. Also, I'm not American so this isn't something I worry about.

I agree but I didn't bring it up, you asked.

 

[kimblebee]

I didn't ask a question in my comment.

 

[FlightlessDuck]

The New York Daily News is a dumpster fire of sensationalism and scandal. It's a rag and should be put out of business.

Front page will be pictures from the killer's video
https://twitter.com/NYDailyNews/status/636724797678977025

 

[mnrose]

IMO this isn't the thread for this so I won't answer.

Smart move.

 

[mnrose]

The New York Daily News is a dumpster fire of sensationalism and scandal. It's a rag and should be put out of business.

Front page will be pictures from the killer's video
https://twitter.com/NYDailyNews/status/636724797678977025

If no one buys it, it will be out of business. My guess is it sells well, and gets a lot of hits online.

 

[kimblebee]

The New York Daily News is a dumpster fire of sensationalism and scandal. It's a rag and should be put out of business.

Front page will be pictures from the killer's video
https://twitter.com/NYDailyNews/status/636724797678977025

I saw this on Twitter and it's disgusting. How can anyone with a conscience decide that's a good idea?

 

[pat fan]

soooo...

This kinda looks like a question, but I also confused you with the person who asked the actual question.

 

[k5jm]

IMO this isn't the thread for this so I won't answer.

I agree but I didn't bring it up, you asked.

Wise move. No political grandstanding. Just Let it go....

 

[Tuffcookie]

His previous employers disagree with you. He scored poorly in performance reviews and was dubbed "the human tape recorder". They said he was stiff, confusing and couldn't read a teleprompter.

Well, obviously, he chose to put his better work on you tube then. I wonder if his family had concerns about his mental state?

TC

 

[asta]

The New York Daily News is a dumpster fire of sensationalism and scandal. It's a rag and should be put out of business.

Front page will be pictures from the killer's video
https://twitter.com/NYDailyNews/status/636724797678977025

These photos should definitely not be published. I am not as sensitive to these type of images as others but this goes too far.

I think the scariest photo we have seen from this horrible shooting was the image of the shooters face caught by the cameraman as he fell. It was the image of absolute evil.

 

[LisaR]

I can understand the outrage felt towards the pro-gun lobby of the United States at the moment, but perhaps we can put that aside for a while and just grieve?

When do we get to talk about it and be outraged? The violence never ends. I see a cop in Louisiana was killed this evening after responding to a domestic violence call where the suspect stabbed three women (one died). It simply never stops! I say we need MORE outrage. I don't want to grieve anymore. I'm tired of grieving. I bet the families of those murdered today would rather be doing anything but grieving tonight. This is getting old and if we aren't all outraged by this and expressing that outrage, nothing will change. Who am I kidding? Nothing is going to change and I think we all know that.

 

[DisneyPrince1982]

Just saw the video and feel like throwing up honestly.

 

[Disneychick75]

His previous employers disagree with you. He scored poorly in performance reviews and was dubbed "the human tape recorder". They said he was stiff, confusing and couldn't read a teleprompter.

Yes, like this one:

"Flanagan was described by Jeffrey Marks, WDBJ’s president and general manager as an “an unhappy man” and “difficult to work with,” always “looking out for people to say things he could take offense to.”

“Eventually after many incidents of his anger coming to the fore, we dismissed him. He did not take that well,” Marks explained, adding that police had to escort him out of the station when he was fired."
Flanagan sounded like a member of the perpetually aggrieved.
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20150826/us--on-air_shooting-26f668e028.html

 

[Goofy_Disney_Dad]

Yes, like this one:

"Flanagan was described by Jeffrey Marks, WDBJ’s president and general manager as an “an unhappy man” and “difficult to work with,” always “looking out for people to say things he could take offense to.”

“Eventually after many incidents of his anger coming to the fore, we dismissed him. He did not take that well,” Marks explained, adding that police had to escort him out of the station when he was fired."
Flanagan sounded like a member of the perpetually aggrieved.
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20150826/us--on-air_shooting-26f668e028.html

The "looking out for people to say things he could take offense to" seems to be quite the norm these days from what I see all around me. The other stuff not so much, but we live in a society that seems to celebrate being offended so that description doesn't surprise me in the least.

 

[cabanafrau]

From what I have read, I don't think he suffered from "mental illness" in any way. He clearly understood what he was doing, methodically planned out the murders, wrote a seething 20-page "manifesto" explaining his feelings and actions, video taped the ambush and then posted it on-line after the fact, and when it was obvious he was about to be apprehended he killed himself. Other than his actions being something we cannot fathom doing personally, he hardly seemed detached from reality in any way.

I think you're mixing the concepts mental illness and criminal responsibility. It is entirely possible to be both mentally ill and criminally responsible for one's actions.

IMO someone who repeatedly has trouble at one job setting after another, one entirely separate set of co workers to the next, yet never seems to entertain for a moment that perhaps the problem starts within himself and can manage to extrapolate those feelings into an entirely unrelated violent act and then claim that as a reason to ignite his fuse to undertake this violent act himself absolutely has some concerning psychological pathology going on. Whether or not he should be considered criminally culpable under the law wouldn't be my first concern at this point. I think the time and energy would be better spent in looking to improve mental health services so that as many people as possible don't get to this point. That could save and improve lives.