Remember "they" aren't always like that - but sometimes people are.

The thing about motorized scooters or ECVs is that the drivers using them are not always normal users so they often don't know the 'power' of the machine; how sensitive the go and stop functions are so I do not always fault them. There are a few who are just not considerate of everyone else around them.

If your child decides to run in front of a scooter (i'm talking perpendicular here) you shouldn't be mad at the scooter, you should be talking to your child. As in crossing a street, they need to check before crossing opposing traffic.

One thing many people don't realize is there are NO breaks on ECVs; they come to a rolling stop. It's a pretty quick stop, but it's not immediate. But then, even automobiles don't stop instantly and if one steps in front of a moving vehicle, one should expect to get hit by said vehicle.

What it really comes down to, in my opinion, is that we all need to pay attention to our surroundings and act accordingly. Instead of immediately jumping down someone's throat, take a moment, a breath, and talk it out. If you bump into someone, apologize. No big deal, a simple "sorry" and move on with your day.

I've had more issues with people on foot than with strollers and ECVs put together. It's the people that are the problem, not the method of transportation. Rude people are going to be rude no matter where they are. These are the same people who will take the parking space you've been patiently waiting for, the same ones who hit you with their shopping cart, or tell little Johnny to take the ball from your little guy because that's the one he wants. If they don't have manners at home, they will most certainly have no manners at Disneyland.

All we can really do is be sure that we are being the best people we can be. We can't control the behavior of others, but we can control our own. We have to realize that everyone makes mistakes and if we act with kindness, those mistakes can't ruin our trips.
 
I understand that ECVs don't have brakes. I probably don't stop on a dime either if someone jumps out in front of me. But if someone on an ECV is passing people who are walking, they're going too fast. If they're going too fast and they hit someone, it's at least partially their fault. Plus, I think most people have had issues where they were standing completely still, didn't just stop suddenly and were bumped by someone in an ECV. Or have had to jump out of the way of someone swerving around people so they can pass them. Just going around the parks I almost never see people jump right in front of an ECV. I see people slow down and stop when the crowds in front of them stop. I see ECV drives not slow down as the crowd in front of them slows and then have to suddenly stop. That's not the same thing as someone jumping in front of them. I also see people on ECVs suing their phones, taking pictures in one direction while moving in another or playing with kids on their laps or letting those kids drive. I see people texting and walking too, but they're not operating a hundred lb device with several hundred lbs of person and personal items added on top.

And if you hit someone with your car that stepped off the curb in front of your car would you really tell them that they should expect to be hit. Or that it's their fault after they've just been hit by a car?
 
I think jogging strollers shouldn't be allowed. Besides jamming someone or poking between people it's a tripping hazard to someone that doesn't see the low profile of the tire.
 
I think a lot of people aren't intentionally rude, they're just oblivious. My personal pet-peeve is when people take up an entire walkway (think a family of four or five who, rather than walk two-by-two or sort of clustered in a group, decide to all hold hands and spread out and walk in one long line making it impossible for others to pass them) and then sloooooowly meander along. I'm not talking when it's congested and you can only move along as quickly as the crowd in front of you, I mean when traffic is light or even practically non-existent. In my family we're all fast walkers, so crawling behind these people at a snail's pace is maddening for us. Anymore I just loudly and cheerfully say "Excuse us, please!" That typically results in them dropping hands and letting us pass with a "Oh! Sorry!" They usually seem really surprised that anyone would want to walk at a brisk pace, lol.
 

I think jogging strollers shouldn't be allowed. Besides jamming someone or poking between people it's a tripping hazard to someone that doesn't see the low profile of the tire.

Ridiculous. If you want to ban jogging strollers, then ban the battleships that are ECV's, and wheelchairs too (because they are wide), and any other large profile devices. Crazy? Of course is it.

Jogging strollers are a preferred method of transportation for us. Ours has a space on front for our older kid to ride, so we don't have a need for double-wide. Plus the construction, tires, etc. makes it much more suitable for the 15+ miles we're walking in the parks on a given day then our umbrella. I'm courteous with our stroller, and I could be just as "hazardous" with an umbrella stroller.
 
Give strollers room. Don't treat a stroller like its another human being and squeeze in next to it or in front of it. That just makes things more difficult for the user of the stroller making it more likely for you to get hit. Whenever I am in a crowd I leave a space in between the stroller and the person in front of me, however people beside me whom feel like I am going too slow like to cut me off and squeeze themselves into that space, (apparently being one person ahead makes a huge difference) but this makes it more likely for me to accidentally hit your legs. That space was there for a reason, and no the reason was not because I was just moving slow. JS
 
I am with a largish group (13) that has just been to WDW and are now heading to DL. I apologie to everyone because we at times walk on the left and cause a problem in crowds, not because we want to be annoying but because that is the correct side where we are from, so if we are not concentrating we end up on the left and when we realize and try and get across it causes problems. That having been said members of the group do not hold their children's hands or control them, it drives me nuts. I have tried to suggest keeping the kids close to them but the parents won't listen. One 2 year old is allowed to constantly push his stroller. Thank God my DD is an adult now. I hate knowing we are those people.
 
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This whole thing is a none issue for me. Your in a crowded place so no matter what you do you are going to have times where you run into people or they run into you. No one is TRYING to get in your way but when everyone is trying to go in different directions it happens. I get annoyed sometimes by the crowds when Im there but I know going in that its going to happen and its therefore easy for me to manage myself. Which is what it comes down to. Know what you are getting into and manage your own feelings and it never becomes an issue. If someone else gets mad at me I tell them sorry (even if it isn't my fault) and keep on walking. I'm there to have a great time and I'm not letting something like people being in my way bring me down.
 
This whole thing is a none issue for me. Your in a crowded place so no matter what you do you are going to have times where you run into people or they run into you. No one is TRYING to get in your way but when everyone is trying to go in different directions it happens. I get annoyed sometimes by the crowds when Im there but I know going in that its going to happen and its therefore easy for me to manage myself. Which is what it comes down to. Know what you are getting into and manage your own feelings and it never becomes an issue. If someone else gets mad at me I tell them sorry (even if it isn't my fault) and keep on walking. I'm there to have a great time and I'm not letting something like people being in my way bring me down.

Exactly!! We went to the shopping mall the other day and it was busy. I told my DD this was good practice for Disney!! If you don't enter the park with patience you'll certainly not leave with it!!!
 
I personally can't stand when people bring their strollers into the stores. There is little room in there to begin with and then when you have a double wide knocking into shelves and cloging up the walkways it makes it worse. Park it outside like you do when you go on an attraction.
I would love to do that but considering they dont have stroller parking outside stores that makes that difficult. Can you imagine people doing this on Main Street? That would be crazy annoying. Maybe at a store near a ride like the POC store or any store at the exit of a ride so then you could park your stroller in the ride stroller parking. But I feel like the smaller stores and more popular stores are on Main Street and they don't really have anywhere to park strollers that I can think of.
 
I would love to do that but considering they dont have stroller parking outside stores that makes that difficult. Can you imagine people doing this on Main Street? That would be crazy annoying. Maybe at a store near a ride like the POC store or any store at the exit of a ride so then you could park your stroller in the ride stroller parking. But I feel like the smaller stores and more popular stores are on Main Street and they don't really have anywhere to park strollers that I can think of.

I feel like on the big stores its not as big of a deal but the small ones with tight corners would benefit from a stroller corral.
 
Disney just needs to walk up to guests and say, "Excuse me, you can't angle your stroller across the whole aisle way, you're blocking other guests." Or "Excuse me, please stop playing with your phone while bumping other guests with your stroller." Or "Excuse me, ECVs are for a single rider only." Or "Excuse me, there is no line cutting." When did guests become so fragile that Disney can't ask them to stop doing things that are unsafe and/or impact other guests negatively.
 
Disney just needs to walk up to guests and say, "Excuse me, you can't angle your stroller across the whole aisle way, you're blocking other guests." Or "Excuse me, please stop playing with your phone while bumping other guests with your stroller." Or "Excuse me, ECVs are for a single rider only." Or "Excuse me, there is no line cutting." When did guests become so fragile that Disney can't ask them to stop doing things that are unsafe and/or impact other guests negatively.

When people started threatening CMs saying you can't say that to me ill get you fired, or screaming at them you can't talk to my child that way, or the infamous "I'm going to sue you"
 
When people started threatening CMs saying you can't say that to me ill get you fired, or screaming at them you can't talk to my child that way, or the infamous "I'm going to sue you"
I was thinking more when people started lashing out with extreme overreactions to being challenged in any way. They need more uniform security. They're probably also afraid of being trashed on social media by the unhappy people who would get kicked out. It's too bad they haven't figure out a good PR move to show that the guests who aren't slamming into other people matter to them too.
 
I was thinking more when people started lashing out with extreme overreactions to being challenged in any way. They need more uniform security. They're probably also afraid of being trashed on social media by the unhappy people who would get kicked out. It's too bad they haven't figure out a good PR move to show that the guests who aren't slamming into other people matter to them too.

Anyone who goes on social media ranting and raving about how authority challenged their self entitled behavior doesn't often get sympathy - it usually backfires. However, Disneyland is just an extension of regular society - people are rude, self entitled and spoiled rotten everywhere else you go - they just seem to stand out more in Disneyland as you are forced to be in closer contact with them. I have also found that the more self entitled a person is the less you are able to reason with them so why bother - let karma have a stab at it.
 
The first couple of times I was rammed in the ankles by a stroller or stood by and watched as a kid sat in their electric wheelchair bound guardian's lap (this is more common that I could have ever expected), I was annoyed and might have even let myself mutter a few bad words. Now I have to say that they come with the territory and when it happens, I just shrug my shoulders and keep on pushing through the crowds. I only get mad when someone decides to stop in the middle of a walkway with their stroller and are oblivious to the backup piling up behind them.

You definitely need patience when visiting any of the Disney parks for a number of reasons.
 
Give strollers room. Don't treat a stroller like its another human being and squeeze in next to it or in front of it. That just makes things more difficult for the user of the stroller making it more likely for you to get hit. Whenever I am in a crowd I leave a space in between the stroller and the person in front of me, however people beside me whom feel like I am going too slow like to cut me off and squeeze themselves into that space, (apparently being one person ahead makes a huge difference) but this makes it more likely for me to accidentally hit your legs. That space was there for a reason, and no the reason was not because I was just moving slow. JS

Agree. This is annoys me. People suddenly step in front of you and then act like it's your fault you hit them. You want to leave the gap so you don't hit people, but you don't want to leave the gap because it allows people to step in and that causes more issues. I now try to walk as close as safely possible to the person in front, but people still shove in...
 












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