Recent travelers from China not allowed on cruise

[insureman]

But the Visa doesn't have the dates of your visit on it. My daughter and I were given 10 year Visas before our ABD China trip this past July. Dates of our visit are not on it. You have flip few pages back in our passports to find the dated stamps.

But if your going on a cruise DCL already has your passport info so that they could do an inquiry to see if you did travel to China, correct? Do they have that kind of access?

 

[SirDuff]

But if your going on a cruise DCL already has your passport info so that they could do an inquiry to see if you did travel to China, correct? Do they have that kind of access?

For most/many DCL cruises you don’t need a passport. So, no, DCL doesn’t, necessarily have access to it.

 

[Adventurelawyer]

I'm sure Disney is going to be much more likely to work with passengers who check the WuHoo virus boxes on rescheduling or reimbursement than they have in the past for influenza like illnesses. The optics of allowing this particular virus on the ship would be financially catastrophic. DCL is going to make it as easy as possible to defer travel and not roll the dice because exposed passengers have to "eat" the cost of the trip. That's why they aren't springing this on you at the terminal.

It would be difficult to hide travel to China at this point and to make it into the US, past all of the enhanced (as of today there are even more) screenings and quarantines (they are no longer voluntary or self report/isolation as of today), and make it onto the ship. I think most people are freaked out enough to be honest about it as well. Of course, adam henries exist. I hope they don't prove me wrong.

 

[MomOTwins]

I'm sure Disney is going to be much more likely to work with passengers who check the WuHoo virus boxes on rescheduling or reimbursement than they have in the past for influenza like illnesses. The optics of allowing this particular virus on the ship would be financially catastrophic. DCL is going to make it as easy as possible to defer travel and not roll the dice because exposed passengers have to "eat" the cost of the trip. That's why they aren't springing this on you at the terminal.

I agree it is very likely they will offer a refund or rebooking, and I'm surprised they did not say so in the email communication to encourage people to come forward and disclose it.

 

[jdb in AZ]

The U.S. govt just issued a warning that U.S. citizens returning from China will be subject to a quarantine up to two weeks, so if you're just returning from China to catch a cruise, you're out of luck. https://abcnews.go.com/Health/delta-suspends-us-flights-china-amid-coronavirus/story?id=68666037

 

[spiders]

It doesn't take very long to flip to the last used page of your passport to see where it was. They're only looking for the last 14 days, not your entire travel history.

I also think that you have nothing more to worry about on a cruise vs. any other public area. In fact, I would argue maybe even less since DCL treats all adults like kids and puts a wipe in the hands of all the slobs of the world that don't know how to wash their hands.

I go next month as well. I'd definitely choose DCL over visiting any of the parks during this time.

 

[Brett Wyman]

Excellent call by DCL.

 

[PrincessShmoo]

flip to the last used page of your passport to see where it was. They're only looking for the last 14 days, not your entire travel history.

Not all stamps inside the passport are sequential. They basically just open the back of the book, find an empty page (or nearly empty one) and stamp it.

 

[Dug720]

Not all stamps inside the passport are sequential. They basically just open the back of the book, find an empty page (or nearly empty one) and stamp it.

Exactly what I was going to say. It seems like it is just open the passport and find a space and stamp.

 

[bobbiwoz]

Princess will be screening too. Our cruise is next week.

CORONAVIRUS TRAVEL ADVISORY We are closely monitoring the Coronavirus (2019-nCoV) situation and wish to reassure you that the risk to our guests and crew is low and our medical experts are coordinating closely with global health authorities. As a precautionary measure, any guest who has traveled from or through mainland China within 14 days of the start of this cruise will not be permitted to board the ship. This does not apply to Hong Kong, Macau and Taiwan. If this applies to you or your client, please contact us at 1-800-774-6237 (North America) or your country s office to provide proof of such travel and we will process a full refund of all amounts paid to Princess Cruises for this voyage. In addition, all guests will be subject to pre-boarding health reporting and screening at cruise check-in, in addition to other precautions being taken. The above is subject to change based on the interests of health and safety of our guests and crew and any other requirements imposed by local authorities.

 

[Pens Fan]

According to some posters on CC, NCL is denying boarding to anyone who's been to mainland China in the last 30 days and giving them full refunds. They are also implementing temperature screening of all passengers prior to boarding at some Asian ports and stopped self service at the buffets. Basically anyone taking a cruise on any line in the near future should expect some type of impact from this virus.

I also just noticed this: https://www.wdwinfo.com/news-storie...ts-including-castaway-cay-due-to-coronavirus/ . I wonder if DCL will increase their restriction to 20 days to match the Bahamas requirement.

 

[Adventurelawyer]

According to some posters on CC, NCL is denying boarding to anyone who's been to mainland China in the last 30 days and giving them full refunds. They are also implementing temperature screening of all passengers prior to boarding at some Asian ports and stopped self service at the buffets. Basically anyone taking a cruise on any line in the near future should expect some type of impact from this virus.

I also just noticed this: https://www.wdwinfo.com/news-storie...ts-including-castaway-cay-due-to-coronavirus/ . I wonder if DCL will increase their restriction to 20 days to match the Bahamas requirement.

Disney will likely follow suit, either the Bahamian rule or match suit with the other lines. If you think about it, it makes it easier for DCL if they match them because both embarkation and disembarkation would be much more efficient. The Bahamas relies on tourism. It needs to protect its cash crop just as much as the cruise lines need to protect their own bottom lines. Any outbreak of disease (but in particular a new disease) on a ship scares consumers and that perception lasts for a very long time. This announcement is not at all surprising and probably a very good move for them at the moment. The perception of proactivity is a big boost to consumer confidence.

 

[monkeydawn]

According to some posters on CC, NCL is denying boarding to anyone who's been to mainland China in the last 30 days and giving them full refunds. They are also implementing temperature screening of all passengers prior to boarding at some Asian ports and stopped self service at the buffets. Basically anyone taking a cruise on any line in the near future should expect some type of impact from this virus.

MSC is doing the same.

 

[Capitalangel]

Just received this for our trip next week. DCL is now saying to call for 20 days of travel to China not just 14

 

[insureman]

Now just confirmed new case of Coronavirus in Boston. Getting too close.
https://www.nbcboston.com/news/local/first-reported-case-of-coronavirus-in-massachusetts/2070535/

 

[Lesley Wake]

It likely will be on the honor system.

I flew into Vancouver from the US last weekend. On the immigration computer screen (everyone uses those) they ask a specific question about if you have been to Wuhan, China in the past 2 weeks. (I suspect it is now changed to just China.) But there was no checking in the passport itself. I don’t have a visa but do have entry/exit stamps from the 144-hour transit from last fall, so it is something that would have required more looking (ie checking date quickly) than just flipping thru the pages. There were many more officials standing around the exit from immigration staring at people just trying to see if anyone showed illness symptoms.

For anyone worried about the illness-for most people it is no worse than common flu. Anyone who has died has had pre-existing illnesses, particularly respiratory issues. Also, there is no vaccine against it.

It is spread via droplets (sneezing or coughing), not skin to skin contact or just air exposure. And those droplets need to be absorbed deep into the lungs to catch it. So you are looking at more prolonged exposure than a simple walking in the same vicinity as someone who is sick.

 

[Karin1984]

For anyone worried about the illness-for most people it is no worse than common flu. Anyone who has died has had pre-existing illnesses, particularly respiratory issues. Also, there is no vaccine against it.

It is spread via droplets (sneezing or coughing), not skin to skin contact or just air exposure. And those droplets need to be absorbed deep into the lungs to catch it. So you are looking at more prolonged exposure than a simple walking in the same vicinity as someone who is sick.

And those who have passed away are the people with low resistance, similar to regular flu. There are already reports of people who are cured and send home. See the map of John Hopkins here:
https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6
At the moment it's 12.037 cases, 259 deats, 284 recovered.

Can I be surprised that the cruiselines only ban people from China's Mainland and not Hong Kong and Taiwan, while in most report these countries are counted as China.

 

[Adventurelawyer]

And those who have passed away are the people with low resistance, similar to regular flu. There are already reports of people who are cured and send home. See the map of John Hopkins here:
https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6
At the moment it's 12.037 cases, 259 deats, 284 recovered.

Can I be surprised that the cruiselines only ban people from China's Mainland and not Hong Kong and Taiwan, while in most report these countries are counted as China.

Considering the border is bot closed between mainland China and Hong Kong or Macau, yeah, its a touch silly.

 

[otten]

And those who have passed away are the people with low resistance, similar to regular flu. There are already reports of people who are cured and send home. See the map of John Hopkins here:
https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6
At the moment it's 12.037 cases, 259 deats, 284 recovered.

Can I be surprised that the cruiselines only ban people from China's Mainland and not Hong Kong and Taiwan, while in most report these countries are counted as China.

Not everyone develops symptoms either. The second case in Canada (wife of the first case) tested positive but has not actually experienced any symptoms.

 

[Adventurelawyer]

Not everyone develops symptoms either. The second case in Canada (wife of the first case) tested positive but has not actually experienced any symptoms.

Right, but thats the concern. I guess you’re contagious during the asymptomatic period and, while more people are recovering than not (reportedly) that could be dangerous for at risk populations. Apparently, at first your not sick but contagious, then you’re a little sick, then sick sick to holy crap you’re sick, then better or you die. Like the flu.