Really...enough already!

[lustergirl]

Just imagine- Dawn would be so proud of all of the bickering that you guys are doing! It is her sole purpose on these thread everyday to start a "anti- Obama" but where is she now?

 

[PrincessKsMom]

Waiting for the launch of the space shuttle, I imagine.

 

[kinntj]

I hope you're not talking to me. Trust me, it takes a lot to rile me up and Lord knows I've seen enough around here to rile anyone.

It really doesn't bother me per se. I just get what a lot of people say when they ask for a separate section for political threads. I love a good healthy conversation as the next person and that's all it is, just a conversation.

No, I was talking to the OP. I'm not saying she has to leave, but sometimes when things get to me I feel I have too much invested in it and need to put space between me and what's bothering me.

I totally get what you're saying.

 

[rabx5]

Just imagine- Dawn would be so proud of all of the bickering that you guys are doing! It is her sole purpose on these thread everyday to start a "anti- Obama" but where is she now?

She's at WDW-but she may be on here later, she took her computer.

 

[phorsenuf]

No, I was talking to the OP. I'm not saying she has to leave, but sometimes when things get to me I feel I have too much invested in it and need to put space between me and what's bothering me.

I totally get what you're saying.

 

[MrsPete]

Coming in late, not particularly interested in this topic, BUT . . .

Fair's fair. For the last year or so, this board's been full of anti-Bush sentiment, and loads of people don't grasp what's been his fault and what hasn't -- he's been blamed for way more than his own actions. For example, people blame him for the war; does anyone remember that only Congress can declare war? While he certainly didn't do everything perfectly, he didn't cause this economic crisis; that's largely the fault of greed in the business world and over-extension of credit by foolish consumers.

Now the shoe's on the other foot. Obama's done some things right (i.e., freezing Congress' wages) and other things wrong (i.e., putting our grandchildren into hock for the rest of their lives for a supplement of questionable value today).

If you were dishing it out, it's time to take it. Plenty of people have taken political debate way beyond the facts and have made it personal.

 

[Master Mason]

Coming in late, not particularly interested in this topic, BUT . . .

Fair's fair. For the last year or so, this board's been full of anti-Bush sentiment, and loads of people don't grasp what's been his fault and what hasn't -- he's been blamed for way more than his own actions. For example, people blame him for the war; does anyone remember that only Congress can declare war? While he certainly didn't do everything perfectly, he didn't cause this economic crisis; that's largely the fault of greed in the business world and over-extension of credit by foolish consumers.

Now the shoe's on the other foot. Obama's done some things right (i.e., freezing Congress' wages) and other things wrong (i.e., putting our grandchildren into hock for the rest of their lives for a supplement of questionable value today).

If you were dishing it out, it's time to take it. Plenty of people have taken political debate way beyond the facts and have made it personal.

Congress has not declared War since WWII, but yet we have managed to be in at least 3 or 4 major ones since that time.

 

[PK Disney Dork]

No, I was talking to the OP. I'm not saying she has to leave, but sometimes when things get to me I feel I have too much invested in it and need to put space between me and what's bothering me.

I totally get what you're saying.

Just a little FYI...the OP was written by a HE not a she.

 

[ConcKahuna]

ETA: And since the race card has been played, I should add that my not liking his policies has nothing to do with his race. Saying this is a racial thing is as crazy as saying those of you who did not support JC Watts or Alan Keyes are racists.

While race is obviously not the only deciding factor, I would bet that it is a definite factor for many people, quite a few right here on the DIS.

A perfect example would be the folks who went from being die-hard Hillary supporters to sudden conservatives. Hilllary was just as liberal as Obama, so if you could support her and suddenly become a conservative that means a) you are racist or b) you are ignorant and were voting only on the fact that Hillary was a woman, in wich case your vote was stupid and I'm glad you lost.

 

[PeterPan09]

While race is obviously not the only deciding factor, I would bet that it is a definite factor for many people, quite a few right here on the DIS.

A perfect example would be the folks who went from being die-hard Hillary supporters to sudden conservatives. Hilllary was just as liberal as Obama, so if you could support her and suddenly become a conservative that means a) you are racist or b) you are ignorant and were voting only on the fact that Hillary was a woman, in wich case your vote was stupid and I'm glad you lost.

You know, I never got that either. How could you go from Hillary: pro-choice, pro-universal health care, pro-regulation to McCain who was the complete opposite? The only answer that made sense was that the deciding factor was either gender or race.

 

[Mahnahmahnah]

While race is obviously not the only deciding factor, I would bet that it is a definite factor for many people, quite a few right here on the DIS.

A perfect example would be the folks who went from being die-hard Hillary supporters to sudden conservatives. Hilllary was just as liberal as Obama, so if you could support her and suddenly become a conservative that means a) you are racist or b) you are ignorant and were voting only on the fact that Hillary was a woman, in wich case your vote was stupid and I'm glad you lost.

Wow! Really? Maybe I should assume that there is a cure for being gay. Since we're talking about ridiculous assumptions.

By the way it sounds like you are referring to certain posters here. And calling them racists and ignorant. How nice of you to point that out to them!

For the record, I went from from being totally crunchy liberal to a foot over the line conservative. It had nothing to do with race or being ignorant. It was most of the liberals, and statements like this, that helped push me over completely to the right.
Thanks! It's so much better on the other side.

 

[TeresaNJ]

Wow! Really? Maybe I should assume that there is a cure for being gay. Since we're talking about ridiculous assumptions.

By the way it sounds like you are referring to certain posters here. And calling them racists and ignorant. How nice of you to point that out to them!

For the record, I went from from being totally crunchy liberal to a foot over the line conservative. It had nothing to do with race or being ignorant. It was most of the liberals, and statements like this, that helped push me over completely to the right.
Thanks! It's so much better on the other side.

This goes for my husband also! He has to hear for the rest of our married lives, "I told you so".

 

[PeterPan09]

Wow! Really? Maybe I should assume that there is a cure for being gay. Since we're talking about ridiculous assumptions.

By the way it sounds like you are referring to certain posters here. And calling them racists and ignorant. How nice of you to point that out to them!

For the record, I went from from being totally crunchy liberal to a foot over the line conservative. It had nothing to do with race or being ignorant. It was most of the liberals, and statements like this, that helped push me over completely to the right.
Thanks! It's so much better on the other side.

Well, I can see changing from one side to the other-I know quite a few people that went from R's to D's in the last election-but it sure wasn't people on an internet board that sent them over! For some it was the growing influence of the religious right in the R party, for some it was the last administration and for others it was a nagging feeling that the platform of the R party didn't speak to their personal values anymore. For those folks, it happened over a period of years, between GW Bush and Obama-not like the much publicized defection of Hillary supporters to McCain, which happened over a period of what, weeks?

 

[Mrs.Reese]

I was conservative till the R's became obsessed with religion. Being conservative means keeping out of people's business not becoming obsessed with what they do in their own private residences. Obama is the president. Can we just get over it and attempt to solve the problems of this country?

 

[Magic Mom]

I have to disagree there. I think it's just too easy for people to go low brow and use the whole BO thing as a dig. I don't think it has anything to do with easier typing. It's very "high school" to me. I don't mind when people state their opinions, that's what this country is all about. I just think it diminishes ones opinion when it starts off with "BO this" or "Dubya that".....

I use BO all the time, and your interpretation is incorrect. Its just his initials. Simple. No sly attack, no high school nastiness....his intials, that's all.
If I wanted to make up an ugly name for him, it would be much more imaginaive than b.o. But that's not really my style. I can find lots of other things to criticize him for other than his name.

 

[inaminute]

Like I said I looked back to the beginning of Bush Jr's time in office and I didn't find this level of rhetoric.

And you might not.

Back then, there was a debate board where all the political fussing took place. I'm not sure if those theads are still be available or if they disappeared when they removed the debate board.

I still miss the debate board--I knew exactly what I was getting when I opened it up.

 

[Mahnahmahnah]

Well, I can see changing from one side to the other-I know quite a few people that went from R's to D's in the last election-but it sure wasn't people on an internet board that sent them over! For some it was the growing influence of the religious right in the R party, for some it was the last administration and for others it was a nagging feeling that the platform of the R party didn't speak to their personal values anymore. For those folks, it happened over a period of years, between GW Bush and Obama-not like the much publicized defection of Hillary supporters to McCain, which happened over a period of what, weeks?

People on an Internet board didn't push me over . But if that's what you want to assume go right ahead. There seems to be a a lot of that going on here.

I read the Hillary thread here and watched it get real viscious from OS when someone even dare say they did not like BO, for whatever their reasons. And then they get accused of racism and being ignorant now. Interesting.

There will probably be no 'good enough reason' for you or any other OS, why someone would have wanted Hillary in office instead of BO. So it's not even worth it to argue about it.
I get it now. If you didn't, or don't support BO, you're a racist.

 

[amykay9377]

Coming in late, not particularly interested in this topic, BUT . . .

Fair's fair. For the last year or so, this board's been full of anti-Bush sentiment, and loads of people don't grasp what's been his fault and what hasn't -- he's been blamed for way more than his own actions. For example, people blame him for the war; does anyone remember that only Congress can declare war? While he certainly didn't do everything perfectly, he didn't cause this economic crisis; that's largely the fault of greed in the business world and over-extension of credit by foolish consumers.

Now the shoe's on the other foot. Obama's done some things right (i.e., freezing Congress' wages) and other things wrong (i.e., putting our grandchildren into hock for the rest of their lives for a supplement of questionable value today).

If you were dishing it out, it's time to take it. Plenty of people have taken political debate way beyond the facts and have made it personal.

Well put! Personal feelings aside, I am tired of the hypocrisy! For years, we heard democrats--from small boards like this up to HUGE TELEVISION NEWS REPORTERS--bashing Bush and calling him G-Dub. You guys were all fine with that, but now that Obama is in office...it's totally different?

Some complaints that I've just heard in the past week:

Why can't you call him by his title? He's PRESIDENT Obama.
So was PRESIDENT Bush, but he was regularly called Bush or Mr Bush in the national media. We didn't complain. Does your doctor complain if he isn't called Dr Mike, MD every time you talk to him? No. It's a title--He's not a king.

Why you gotta be a hater (when talk radio makes any sort of derogatory remark about him, his policy, his shoes, whatever..)?
because Obama is black and the talk radio host is white and not bowing at the feet of the Mighty Obama, he's automatically a "hater" and, assumably a racist? Can"t I dislike him because he put my great-great-great-grandchildren in debt or because I don't agree with his policies?

Why can't you give him a chance (regarding the economy)?
We gave him a chance--he was elected. Then he passed a massive Spendulus Bill that has more pork in it than my uncle's farm! Seriously, what the heck?

So, basically, we Republicans had to deal with EIGHT years of Bush-Bashing. Now the tables are turned and you don't like it? Too bad. You won. You gotta live with it.

 

[bettyann29]

Just imagine- Dawn would be so proud of all of the bickering that you guys are doing! It is her sole purpose on these thread everyday to start a "anti- Obama" but where is she now?

She's at WDW-but she may be on here later, she took her computer.

I wondered the same thing..

 

[rie'smom]

While race is obviously not the only deciding factor, I would bet that it is a definite factor for many people, quite a few right here on the DIS.

A perfect example would be the folks who went from being die-hard Hillary supporters to sudden conservatives. Hilllary was just as liberal as Obama, so if you could support her and suddenly become a conservative that means a) you are racist or b) you are ignorant and were voting only on the fact that Hillary was a woman, in wich case your vote was stupid and I'm glad you lost.

Maybe you didn't vote for Mccain because he's Caucasian?
That statement makes as much sense as yours.

The reason that I refused to vote for the guy who won was because of the shabby way Hillary was treated. God could have come down from Heaven and run as a Democrat and I would not have voted for Him after the way votes were stolen from her.
BTW, I didn't go from hard core Hillary supporter to conservative.