~ Real Housewives of New Jersey ~ Season 6 ~ 2014

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It can't just be me who thinks that ALL these women are vying for Teresa's position. ALL of them want to be in her shoes. EVERY last one of them. Business wise that is. I'm not talking about their marriage. But don't you guys think it’s peculiar they are always talking about the "old Teresa" behind her back. It's creepy. Them wanting her to apologize for something that has yet to be explained on TV, and admit to something that was never made clear (at least to those who are watching the show). Even if they believe with every fiber of their being that Tre is selling stories to Magazines, surely they don’t think she’s selling those very NEGATIVE ones (ie Tre is going to jail, Joe having an affair with baby sitter, etc.). Which would only make a sane person infer that MAYBE she isn’t selling all the stories.

I keep waiting for some bomb shell of betrayal. What has Teresa done to these women? Caroline - those silly comments in a cookbook nearly a year ago fuels this much hatred and distain? Jacqueline - is she mad that Teresa isn't confiding in her, or telling her financial dealing with a magazine - I'm confused at not what we are seeing on TV but what happened after they stop filming. Jacqueline was ragging mad. Melissa wanting to be on a show so badly she contacts Danielle to dish the dirt on family. Why? Why was Kathy mad at that toast? Was it really a snub for her or an acknowledgement of her Bro. and SIL. Why does Kathy want Teresa's acknowledgement. Why couldn't these women see this? This trip was about Tre and her Bro/SIL not anyone else. It's just weird. They hate Teresa but want her around at the same time. It's like their made because Teresa doesn't want to play with them like she used to, (because she's made new friends or got a job). It's VERY middle school to me. And Rich, his comments are too much. Yeah he can be funny at times, UNLESS, UNLESS – wait for it – you’re the butt of his joke. NOT so funny. Even Lauren acknowledged that. He’s a behind – a donkey – an …. I think you get the point.

eta: so, I just re-watched part 1 of housewives of Jersey Season 3 reunion. So, when Jac and Caroline had that pow wow on the porch that night - the reunion was taped a few days later. Is that correct?
http://youtu.be/PuBq3lAS32Y

None I repeat None of these women want to be anything like Teresa, I don't think anyone in this whole world wants to be like Teresa. I really struggle to see how anyone could think that. She is a total mental case. She really need some psychological help.
 
I had to post here. I feel so bad for Teresa. I truly do. I wish I could hug her. I do not at all believe she is bitter or jealous or manipulating. I get how she was brought up. She is imo just ignorant. That whole business made me sick for her. When she walks up to Joe if you watch you can see her looking at him and very subtly shaking her head no. IMO she was trying to tell him "not here". I think she knew exactly what was going on and just didn't want it filmed. I don't know anyone who would want something like that filmed no matter what they signed up for. Bravo makes me sick that they showed that. Regardless of what they signed on for these are still people. Then she was trying to be intimate with him right there. It was imo in desperation. She wanted him to love her. IMO if he did that in her head it would be alright. Watch her body language when she sits back down at the table. Something is definitely amiss and I do not believe they actually did anything in the vineyard other than maybe kiss. I also think her brother knows all about Joe and his side activities. Watching his face I think he looked like he knew what was going on with the phone call. I felt bad for all involved except Joe Guidice.


I think Caroline and company are just miserable shrews. She is a wretch and if you look up bitter in the dictionary you will see her picture as what used to be bitter but is now just sour. There is nothing anyone can do to make her happy. It is never enough or right even if she dictated it. She is nothing but negative and her daughter especially is a carbon copy. IMO Lauren should be told to be quiet when it comes to the others. Even though she is an adult she is a child in this situation and should mind them. She has less than zero life experience and she tries to act like Confuscious. (sp?) Give me a break. Caroline with all her advice can't even get along with her own siblings. I wouldn't want to be around her either. Judgy McJudgerson. She is imo a miserable, nasty, rude, wretch. Did you see how mad Caroline was getting when Jac said that she reconciled with T? Master Controller was getting PO'd because she couldn't control Jac. Sorry Mommy Dearest- you don't get to decide who is allowed to be friends. They are all adults. Again- Wretch.

I think Kathy is one of those people who have a soft demeanor so people think they are kind but they really are constantly looking to be offended. If she was rough around the edges instead of Miss Soft Voice nobody would find her to be so super kind. Her husband is a rude washwoman. He should shut his mouth. His jokes are not funny. They are mean spirited. I would not be interested in hanging with my cousin either if her husband always had something to say. Just shut it Richie.

I really think the Gorgas and Guidices could get along just fine. I do think that Melissa and Teresa do like to make sarcastic "jokes" to each other occassionally (ahem "media *****") but if when that happens they can difuse the situation like T actually did on this trip when she said to Melissa "That's not nice!" then they would have a chance. Of course the hag sisters would have to be quiet as well.

Chris L is just plain stupid. None of them knew it was a business trip. Why on earth would you A- not tell them so they could at least try to act accordingly or B- not invite them because you know, you actually need the business to put food on your table! Who does that?!!! Any of you bring your friends and family to business meetings? I doubt it! Stupid! I will however give him some props for shutting down Don Caro in the whole T and Jac convo. He should do that more often to her.
 
It can't just be me who thinks that ALL these women are vying for Teresa's position. ALL of them want to be in her shoes. EVERY last one of them. Business wise that is. I'm not talking about their marriage. But don't you guys think it’s peculiar they are always talking about the "old Teresa" behind her back. It's creepy. Them wanting her to apologize for something that has yet to be explained on TV, and admit to something that was never made clear (at least to those who are watching the show). Even if they believe with every fiber of their being that Tre is selling stories to Magazines, surely they don’t think she’s selling those very NEGATIVE ones (ie Tre is going to jail, Joe having an affair with baby sitter, etc.). Which would only make a sane person infer that MAYBE she isn’t selling all the stories.

I keep waiting for some bomb shell of betrayal. What has Teresa done to these women? Caroline - those silly comments in a cookbook nearly a year ago fuels this much hatred and distain? Jacqueline - is she mad that Teresa isn't confiding in her, or telling her financial dealing with a magazine - I'm confused at not what we are seeing on TV but what happened after they stop filming. Jacqueline was ragging mad. Melissa wanting to be on a show so badly she contacts Danielle to dish the dirt on family. Why? Why was Kathy mad at that toast? Was it really a snub for her or an acknowledgement of her Bro. and SIL. Why does Kathy want Teresa's acknowledgement. Why couldn't these women see this? This trip was about Tre and her Bro/SIL not anyone else. It's just weird. They hate Teresa but want her around at the same time. It's like their made because Teresa doesn't want to play with them like she used to, (because she's made new friends or got a job). It's VERY middle school to me. And Rich, his comments are too much. Yeah he can be funny at times, UNLESS, UNLESS – wait for it – you’re the butt of his joke. NOT so funny. Even Lauren acknowledged that. He’s a behind – a donkey – an …. I think you get the point.

eta: so, I just re-watched part 1 of housewives of Jersey Season 3 reunion. So, when Jac and Caroline had that pow wow on the porch that night - the reunion was taped a few days later. Is that correct?
http://youtu.be/PuBq3lAS32Y

I'm pretty sure you're the only one that thinks that!!

And no the trip was not about them. It was a business trip that they were invited on.
 
I'm pretty sure you're the only one that thinks that!!

No, I think that as well. Not so much Caroline and Jac but Melissa DEFINATELY does. She has been vying to be on that show since the beginning. I don't buy her little "marriage" and miss innocent act. Contacting Danielle in the previous years to give her dirt to use against Teresa is just one bit of proof.

I also believe Kathy is a bit jealous as well. They use T's homelife as a reason to say they aren't jealous, but they darn right are of her "fame", book success and the like. Melissa wants to be famous like nobody's business!

Caroline just thinks she's better than everyone else. Better business, better marriage, better kids. I don't think Teresa is some kind of paragon of virtue, the girl obviously has issues with self-esteem and isn't the brightest bulb, but I don't see the evil. Is she capable of it? Probably, but I see it more as a reaction.
 

eta: so, I just re-watched part 1 of housewives of Jersey Season 3 reunion. So, when Jac and Caroline had that pow wow on the porch that night - the reunion was taped a few days later. Is that correct?
http://youtu.be/PuBq3lAS32Y

I think there must be another explosion coming because they were pretty vile to each other during the reunion. I can't imagine them taping the reunion and then going on a trip together. I don't think the confrontation on the porch is what they were referring to during the reunion. I'm thinking there is more to come. I think they taped the season 3 reunion last September at the end of taping season 4.
 
No, I think that as well. Not so much Caroline and Jac but Melissa DEFINATELY does. She has been vying to be on that show since the beginning. I don't buy her little "marriage" and miss innocent act. Contacting Danielle in the previous years to give her dirt to use against Teresa is just one bit of proof.

I also believe Kathy is a bit jealous as well. They use T's homelife as a reason to say they aren't jealous, but they darn right are of her "fame", book success and the like. Melissa wants to be famous like nobody's business!

Caroline just thinks she's better than everyone else. Better business, better marriage, better kids. I don't think Teresa is some kind of paragon of virtue, the girl obviously has issues with self-esteem and isn't the brightest bulb, but I don't see the evil. Is she capable of it? Probably, but I see it more as a reaction.

I agree except I think Caroline is the most jealous of all. I think she looks at T and is annoyed that she is not getting all these offers and her kids aren't getting all these offers. What she doesn't realize is that her personality is so off putting that it doesn't matter how "smart" she thinks she is nobody wants to work with her. Her children also don't seem to have any work ethic. I wouldn't hire them either. T, while not everyone's cup of tea is relatable. She is someone who might be fun to hang out with or go shopping with. Caroline and family are negative drudges who never have anything nice to say. Oh- and Lauren's makeup was so horrible on that Napa trip! She looked like she was orange! I would not want someone to do my makeup that can't even do her own.
 
I agree except I think Caroline is the most jealous of all. I think she looks at T and is annoyed that she is not getting all these offers and her kids aren't getting all these offers. What she doesn't realize is that her personality is so off putting that it doesn't matter how "smart" she thinks she is nobody wants to work with her. Her children also don't seem to have any work ethic. I wouldn't hire them either. T, while not everyone's cup of tea is relatable. She is someone who might be fun to hang out with or go shopping with. Caroline and family are negative drudges who never have anything nice to say. Oh- and Lauren's makeup was so horrible on that Napa trip! She looked like she was orange! I would not want someone to do my makeup that can't even do her own.

Have to disagree about Caroline. I think she is beotch for sure but I don't think she's even a little bit jealous.
 
I don't think Caroline is jealous. I just think she likes to be the boss of everyone. Since Tre won't follow her around like one of her minions, she can't stand her. I think Tre. I can't figure out Jacqueline's deal. Why be so upset over Tre being in tabloids? It makes no sense to be upset just because your friend didn't tell you.

I agree, some other big blow up must happen in a future episode.
 
You know I was thinking about all these families on RHoNJ … all the continued discussion by Tre/Juicy and Mel/Joe about sex, poison and tarzan … and I realized that Chris/Jac, Kathy/Rich and Caroline/Albert have never had the Bravo's cameras in their HOME bedrooms that I can even recall ever … yet the other two have the cameras in their bedrooms almost every epi. (Even if they are packing to go somewhere, talking to each other, talking on the phone or laying in bed) yet we just never see that in the other couples homes. :scratchin

Tre/Juicy and Mel/Joe just LOVE and BASK in the attention of the show. And while Mel does seem to poo poo the sex talk with Joe … we still HAVE to see it week after week. :headache:
 
You know I was thinking about all these families on RHoNJ … all the continued discussion by Tre/Juicy and Mel/Joe about sex, poison and tarzan … and I realized that Chris/Jac, Kathy/Rich and Caroline/Albert have never had the Bravo's cameras in their HOME bedrooms that I can even recall ever … yet the other two have the cameras in their bedrooms almost every epi. (Even if they are packing to go somewhere, talking to each other, talking on the phone or laying in bed) yet we just never see that in the other couples homes. :scratchin

Tre/Juicy and Mel/Joe just LOVE and BASK in the attention of the show. And while Mel does seem to poo poo the sex talk with Joe … we still HAVE to see it week after week. :headache:

Interesting. I never realized it, but you are right. They never film in their bedrooms. But Tre/Juicky and Mel/Joe want that attention. Nothing is sacred if it means giving them more of the spotlight.
 
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Interesting. I never realized it, but you are right. They never film in their bedrooms. But Tre/Juicky and Mel/Joe want that attention. Nothing is sacred if it means giving them more of the spotlight.

Nothing IS sacred!!! Remember the cameras followed Teresa and Gia when they went bra shopping for the first time!!! Who does that?? Reality show or not, some things should be private! I applaud the other three couples who don't allow cameras in the bedroom!
 
i noticed Teresa's parents have not been seen this year on camera.

i think they are fed up with her too.
 
I don't think Caroline is jealous. I just think she likes to be the boss of everyone. Since Tre won't follow her around like one of her minions, she can't stand her. I think Tre. I can't figure out Jacqueline's deal. Why be so upset over Tre being in tabloids? It makes no sense to be upset just because your friend didn't tell you.

I agree, some other big blow up must happen in a future episode.

That is so easy to understand. If you have a very close, dear friend, you hear or read that they may be in trouble, you would hope and expect them to come to you for advice or comfort. I think Jacqueline was just hurt that Tre didn't do this and she felt that their friendship was closer than that.
 
I agree except I think Caroline is the most jealous of all. I think she looks at T and is annoyed that she is not getting all these offers and her kids aren't getting all these offers. What she doesn't realize is that her personality is so off putting that it doesn't matter how "smart" she thinks she is nobody wants to work with her. Her children also don't seem to have any work ethic. I wouldn't hire them either. T, while not everyone's cup of tea is relatable. She is someone who might be fun to hang out with or go shopping with. Caroline and family are negative drudges who never have anything nice to say. Oh- and Lauren's makeup was so horrible on that Napa trip! She looked like she was orange! I would not want someone to do my makeup that can't even do her own.

HA HA HA. She looks at Tre like that because it is probably taking everything she has not to just go up and smack the crap out of that idiot.

But hey, lets go your way, why wouldn't Caroline be jealous. Tre is in legal and financial trouble, is husband is pond scum, her kids are total brats and they are still very young. Sure, why not be jealous. Tre has everything I have ever wanted. :confused3
 
None I repeat None of these women want to be anything like Teresa, I don't think anyone in this whole world wants to be like Teresa. I really struggle to see how anyone could think that. She is a total mental case. She really need some psychological help.

I have to agree.
 
I'm pretty sure you're the only one that thinks that!!

And no the trip was not about them. It was a business trip that they were invited on.

I might have been business for some, but others went to try to mend relationships. The canoe riding, camping, and surfing was far from business.
 
I might have been business for some, but others went to try to mend relationships. The canoe riding, camping, and surfing was far from business.

I think it was more of an opportunity for a free trip.

These are contrived situations to put these people all in the same place.
 
HA HA HA. She looks at Tre like that because it is probably taking everything she has not to just go up and smack the crap out of that idiot.

But hey, lets go your way, why wouldn't Caroline be jealous. Tre is in legal and financial trouble, is husband is pond scum, her kids are total brats and they are still very young. Sure, why not be jealous. Tre has everything I have ever wanted. :confused3

I would agree that nobody is jealous of T's financial issues but I think Caroline is jealous because she thought she would be the break out star of this group. I think that she really thought that she would be the one offered deal after deal and instead it was T who maybe isn't as bright etc. I don't think Al is any great catch. There is lots of talk about him and his "apartment" as well as him committing fraud to get a civil service job so he didn't have to pay for health insurance. Their kids come across as lazy and unmotivated. If their Uncle and parents weren't bankrolling their ventures what exactly would they be doing? Probably working at the Brownstone- and again if there was no Brownstone what would they be doing? :confused3 As far as T's kids- I don't really think they are total brats. I think the editors like to show the worst in them. It feeds her story line. I bet if someone followed any parent and their kids they could pick at least 10 less than charming moments a day and make them look like heathens. JMHO YMMV.
 
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