Rainforest Room daughter one month shy of 18

[TXDCLfan]

I'm equally clueless as to who Ally and AJ are!

EastYorkDisneyFan,
That not exactly the same a Guest wanting someone under 18 to dine there is it?!?

Ex Techie

Aly & AJ: Sister Act, is an MTV pilot featuring behind the scenes of the lives of up-and-coming musician/actresses Alyson Michalka and her younger sister by two years, Amanda Michalka, better known as Aly & AJ. The pilot premiered August 18, 2007, showcasing what goes on in the lives of these two rockers, such as getting their drivers license, first car, and writing the songs from their newest album, Insomniatic.

 

[justmestace]

There has been an exception one time to under 18's in Palo for some reason on the EB PC in 2008 they let some "girls" by the name of Ally and AJ in the private room.

I was on that cruise. Aly and AJ were also allowed to go to Serenity Bay. They were onboard performing, and at that time, I think only one of the girls was underage...and she was 17. So not the same as 10, 12, or 15....and there were people who complained about it. But since they were professionals, I guess that's why there was an exception.

 

[stitchlovestink]

i will bite the bullet and say it.....

So who posted the original question? You Or your Father since you obviously have access to his DIS profile?

As a 15 year old you decided you were mature enough to use the ADULTS ONLY pool as a minor, and you got away with it.
Congratulations!

You may think you are a mature young adult, your post above says otherwise.
You may wish to participate in the adult activities, but you are not allowed to! Adult's may not wish to be in the company of minor's, and you should respect that, as should you respect the age rule.
You are not an older teenager, you are a teenager below the age of 18, and I'm really sorry if the activities aren't to your liking, but what is offered is what is offered, and you can chose to partake or not to.

If you cannot abide by the rules set out, please stay at home, and wait until you are of age.

Ex Techie

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This!!

Now here is my .02 regarding 18 y.o. having to choose. While it may have worked for an 18yo high schooler to float back & forth on the older ships, I think they have clearly eliminated this on the Dream. When DD16 went to Vibe the first time and 'checked in', they took her original KTTW card and replaced it with a special Vibe one that was red w/ the vibe logo and that was HER new KTTW card. It gave her access to the VIBE areas as well as our room and anything else her old card would have done. Now if she was 18 and tried to use that to get into Diversions or whatever other adult area, it would be evident she was a part of the teen program. So I think they have pretty cleverly eliminated this!
Now the only thing I think though, is that if you are 18 and participating in the teen program that should not preclude you from the adult dining venues. Other activities, ok, but dining should not be considered an adult activity. That should be based purely on whether you meet the age requirement or not.

 

[stitchlovestink]

When you get on the ship, you are asked to go to the Vibe (formerly The Stack) to "confirm participation." You check your name on their list indicating that your cabin number is correct. The list is all kids of the appropriate age. If you are 18 and still in high school, they card you and add you to the list (they also ask that a parent verify the "in high school" status on one cruise). After that, they do not card.

On the newer ships, supposedly the KTTW cards are coded to allow access only to those who have been so cleared and had the card changed to allow.

And yes, on one cruise at the ripe old age of 16, DD was initially politely informed that "This area is reserved for teens." (I was there with her on the first day!) She replied, "I am 16" and offered the KTTW card as proof. THe CM was most apologetic (and DD was thrilled because she had wondered if she looked 18!)

Bottom line--when in doubt they do card, but not each time you enter the area.

I know you cruise DCL a lot! Have you cruised the Dream w/ a teen in Vibe? I think since they take their original KTTW card & replace it w/ the specially coded Vibe card it is so much easier for the CM's because they don't have to card the kids wearing theirs and they need it to even get into the area. They have to wave it in front of the card reader. I realize it doesn't completely solve every problem of one kid trying to bring another in with them. But I definitely think it is a vastly improved system. And the cards are definitely noticeable. I wish I could scan DD's Vibe card so you could see how different it looks from a normal KTTW card! But I don't have the capability. Clearly An Inprovement! Well at least I think so.

 

[justmestace]

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This!!

Now here is my .02 regarding 18 y.o. having to choose. While it may have worked for an 18yo high schooler to float back & forth on the older ships, I think they have clearly eliminated this on the Dream. When DD16 went to Vibe the first time and 'checked in', they took her original KTTW card and replaced it with a special Vibe one that was red w/ the vibe logo and that was HER new KTTW card. It gave her access to the VIBE areas as well as our room and anything else her old card would have done. Now if she was 18 and tried to use that to get into Diversions or whatever other adult area, it would be evident she was a part of the teen program. So I think they have pretty cleverly eliminated this!
Now the only thing I think though, is that if you are 18 and participating in the teen program that should not preclude you from the adult dining venues. Other activities, ok, but dining should not be considered an adult activity. That should be based purely on whether you meet the age requirement or not.

What a great idea!! I didn't know they did this, my son hasn't been with me on my last two DCL cruises.

I don't think there would be a problem with dinner for the 18 yr old still doing the teen program. It can be booked online, as the reservation will show he/she is 18....and if there were a question of age at Palo or Remy, they can easily bring up the reservation in the computer to check age.
It wouldn't matter which the 18 yr old chose, teen or adult, as far as dinner goes.

 

[brianvdb]

I am the DD of the OP. I dont appreciate all of the rude comments about this post. As a fifteen year old i was able to swim in the adult pool and no one said anything. Also the teen club allowed people who just turned 18 in the teen area. We are not trying to just suit the rules to oursleves but as a mature young adult I would rather participate in the adult activities as the teen activities are too immature and not suited to older teenagers.

First... I hate to say it, but you are not an older teenager.

Disney ships are filled with kids. One of the major draws for many adults is the fact that Disney has provided adult-only aeras where old folks can get away from kids (mature or otherwise), relax with other adults, and not neccessarily have to be on their "best behavior" (so to speak).

I'm glad that you had the good sense to maintain a low profile in the adult area. That is probably why nobody noticed. If you want to take your chances by hanging out in an area you aren't allowed, then you do what you do. Don't be upset if you are embarassed by a CM telling you to leave.

I'm not a kid, not a parent... I don't hang out in the kids or teen areas. I expect the same from the kids and teens when it comes to the adult areas.

Frankly, there are plenty of 18 year olds that I would care not to hang out with (soley due to the way they conduct themselves)... but I think that DCL has chosen a reasonable age limit for the adult areas, and I'm glad that they enforce it rigidly.

 

[TXDCLfan]

I am the DD of the OP. I dont appreciate all of the rude comments about this post. As a fifteen year old i was able to swim in the adult pool and no one said anything. Also the teen club allowed people who just turned 18 in the teen area. We are not trying to just suit the rules to oursleves but as a mature young adult I would rather participate in the adult activities as the teen activities are too immature and not suited to older teenagers.

No you just got away with it, you should not have been there and YOU know it!

 

[Disney Dreams]

...As a fifteen year old i was able to swim in the adult pool and no one said anything. Also the teen club allowed people who just turned 18 in the teen area. We are not trying to just suit the rules to oursleves but as a mature young adult I would rather participate in the adult activities as the teen activities are too immature and not suited to older teenagers.

Your first sentence here should read, "As a fifteen you old I got away with swimming in the adult pool and no one said anything." That does not mean it's right. It means you broke the rules and no one questioned you. That does not mean it was right. If you steal a candy bar and no one says anything, is it right?

As for your further comments I've quoted, if you are indeed 15 and you are going into adult areas, you ARE trying to "just suit the rules to" yourselves because the rules do not state, "18 and over, as well as those under 18 who are mature young adults." The rules state, "18 and over."

Lastly, you say that you would "rather participate in the adult activities as the teen activities are too immature and not suited to older teenagers." Here's the deal though. There are youth activities that I would rather participate in as they are more fun and some of the adult activities are not suited to our young-at-heart preferences. For example: making Flubber. Guess what? I can't do it. It's for those in the youth programs only. Not those in the youth programs and adults who are young at heart. Them be the rules.

...like the guy who insisted he'd get his under-ten-year-old into Palo...

Oooo....I wish I'd been there to see THAT!!! ...

Here you go... Enjoy the read.

There has been an exception one time to under 18's in Palo for some reason on the EB PC in 2008 they let some "girls" by the name of Ally and AJ in the private room.

Please extrapolate on that? Ex Techie

I'm aware that on at least one occasion some Disney channel "celebs" who were under age were allowed to eat in the private dining room at Palo. Sorry, I have no idea who they were as I don't watch the Disney channel! Only got this info by asking the CM at Palo, who said they were TV stars and a major exception had been made.

See post 12 on the thread I posted above.

What a great idea!! I didn't know they did this, my son hasn't been with me on my last two DCL cruises.

I don't think there would be a problem with dinner for the 18 yr old still doing the teen program. It can be booked online, as the reservation will show he/she is 18....and if there were a question of age at Palo or Remy, they can easily bring up the reservation in the computer to check age.
It wouldn't matter which the 18 yr old chose, teen or adult, as far as dinner goes.

Well... but isn't that still trying to live in both world? You are either a youth or you are 18+. If you are a youth, you are not allowed in adult-only areas (of which Palo is one). If you are an adult, you are not allowed in youth areas or the teen program. Will the system allow you to "cheat" and be in both worlds? I have no idea. However, if it does, it doesn't mean it's right. Someone is a youth or an adult. They are not both.

- Dreams

 

[jeannie2426]

Its funny, I started reading the thread because I am sailing in two days and thinking of doing the rainforest thing and wanted to hear opinions. While I am no more knowledgeable about the experience, I have had some good chuckles at the back and forth convos on this thread!! Thanks!! Now back to try and find what I came here for in the first place!! LOL!!

 

[It'sWDW4me]

First... I hate to say it, but you are not an older teenager.

17, almost 18 isn't an older teenager? Is that title reserved only for 19 year olds?

IMHO, 17-19 IS "older teenager"; 13-14 is "young teen".

 

[justmestace]

17, almost 18 isn't an older teenager? Is that title reserved only for 19 year olds?

IMHO, 17-19 IS "older teenager"; 13-14 is "young teen".

The girl who posted that this person was responding to is only 15.

 

[jcemom]

 

[extechie rbd/wdt]

17, almost 18 isn't an older teenager? Is that title reserved only for 19 year olds?

IMHO, 17-19 IS "older teenager"; 13-14 is "young teen".

IMO 18-19 is an older teenager, but that is a matter of opinion.
She appears to be 17 now, and will be during the cruise, a few weeks shy of 18 and therefor unable to use adult only facilities, unless she decides to ignore the rules again to suit herself as she did when she was 15.

Ex Techie

 

[UmmGooD]

Wow such harsh comments.

First from what I gather she is no longer 15. She was 15 when she cruised on a previous cruise (there have been several in the OP's signature).

It is one thing to state the rules and then another to assume that the daughter was the OP. There is no way to know. It is possible to correct someone without belittling them.

 

[It'sWDW4me]

The girl who posted that this person was responding to is only 15.

No, the post was from OP's daughter (or possibly even the OP since she admitted to using her dad's account for the 2nd post). She was 15 when she got away with swimming in the adults only pool. Not something to brag about, sure, but not something to string her up over either, IMHO. Now she's almost 18. Possibly.

 

[over50visits]

As a fifteen year old i was able to swim in the adult pool and no one said anything.

...but as a mature young adult ...

May I gently suggest that these two statements are contradictory?

 

[TDC Nala]

There are youth activities that I would rather participate in as they are more fun and some of the adult activities are not suited to our young-at-heart preferences. For example: making Flubber. Guess what? I can't do it. It's for those in the youth programs only. Not those in the youth programs and adults who are young at heart. Them be the rules.

Try the longer cruises...on both the Panama crossings I've been on they had Adult Flubber nights (mostly because there weren't a whole lot of kids on board). What a blast! In January they even had a soapbox derby for adults, we carved cars out of Ivory soap and raced them.

Disney does sometimes make exceptions for "special" guests, I would bet they'd let Justin Bieber go to Palo if he wanted...I remember there was also a NY Times food critic who was allowed to bring her grandchildren to Victoria & Albert's Chefs Table. (She ended up writing about dining there with kids - which is interesting because kids under 10 aren't allowed there and she was given an exception).

 

[justmestace]

Double post.

 

[over50visits]

Disney does sometimes make exceptions for "special" guests,

I'd say they can make exceptions for anyone they want to, it's their cruise ship for gosh sakes. For others to get upset, though, is petty. A good rule to live by is "never begrudge someone else a good deal!"

 

[extechie rbd/wdt]

[SNIP] Wow such harsh comments.
It is one thing to state the rules and then another to assume that the daughter was the OP. There is no way to know. It is possible to correct someone without belittling them.

I did question who wrote the original post after the daughter of the member posted a response under the same members name and account.
Would a mature young adult openly admit to ignoring the rules and not expect people to voice their disapproval?

May I gently suggest that these two statements are contradictory?

Ex Techie