R.i.p. Bttf :(

I haven't seen ANY of the F&F movies... :rotfl: and I used to watch Simpsons all the time.....but, my gut tells me Simpsons....or, at least something "family" and not "thrill"...... :rolleyes:
 
DM,

Thanks for the info. Sorry to hear about this, but excited about the possibilities. Can't wait to see what it will be.
 
bubba's mom said:
I haven't seen ANY of the F&F movies... :rotfl: and I used to watch Simpsons all the time.....but, my gut tells me Simpsons....or, at least something "family" and not "thrill"...... :rolleyes:

well, if they're making a simulator in the same building, a family ride might not be too bad (I.E. like Soarin') or they could make another bumpy jerky thrill ride.

But I could be wrong, they very well could make a thrill ride which isn't bumpy and make it fun. I wonder if there are any other popular tv shows/movies which could be done with that.....hmm......
 
I'm sad about this as well! Lots of great memories when I was a kid!!
 

aaahhhh, my stomach is starting to feel better already, :thumbsup2

I'm sorry for all of you that loved it, but now I won't have to be the meanie mom who doesn't want to ride it with her kid. :goodvibes

Can't wait to see what's going to replace it.

oh, and someone on the Community Board said they closed E.T.??? and then asked what did we expect since it was based on a movie...well, I think Universal knows this since their slogan is ride the movies. :rotfl:
 
Snoopymom said:
aaahhhh, my stomach is starting to feel better already, :thumbsup2

I'm sorry for all of you that loved it, but now I won't have to be the meanie mom who doesn't want to ride it with her kid. :goodvibes

Can't wait to see what's going to replace it.

oh, and someone on the Community Board said they closed E.T.??? and then asked what did we expect since it was based on a movie...well, I think Universal knows this since their slogan is ride the movies. :rotfl:


E.T. in hollywood was closed and replaced by the Mummy, Florida's is still open
 
ChrisFL said:
E.T. in hollywood was closed and replaced by the Mummy, Florida's is still open

oh good, that's another one of ds favorites, but I like it too. I guess it's possible it might close soon too then?

Thanks!
 
hhmmm :scratchin ....i was thinking Jaws was next on "hit list", but if they already closed ET in California.....uh-oh.....
 
bubba's mom said:
hhmmm :scratchin ....i was thinking Jaws was next on "hit list", but if they already closed ET in California.....uh-oh.....

I think our E.T. is safe for now. Supposedly Spielberg was quite upset at the Hollywood removal.

About BTTF, I usually get upset when rides close, but for both BTTF and Python over at Busch, I'm quite happy. Both rides offer very unpleasant riding experiences.
 
I'll mourn with you. Yes, it was a rough ride and not for everybody...when did that stop being okay? Who says that every ride needs to appeal to every person? One of the things that made Universal better than Disney for a lot of us was that it wasn't afraid to have certain non-family-friendly niche attractions. Yes, it was "dated"....why have we as a society decided to turn our backs on classics? Like Kong and Hitch before it, Universal has once again turned its back on something that has stood the test of time in favor of the "latest and greatest" fad. I strongly suspect that in five years, the Mummy, Shrek, and whatever replaces BTTF will be closed again, in favor of whatever the hot property of the moment may be. A real testament to our disposable society. Sad.
 
I was talking with DH about this last night. We both hope USO does something cool with Delorian (sp?). I think they should hang it up next to the pink Cadillac over at HRC.

We both think they ought to replace BTTF with something that will appeal to the younger generation and will not be just a quick fad theme. What are all the kids and young adults into today? I'm thinking Harry Potter. It's been years now that folks of all ages, particularly kids, eagerly await the new books.

Figure you've got magic, suspense, drama, comedy and action with the movies/books. I think those could transfer nicely into a ride. Then, of course, after the ride, you're dumped into the HP (not Hewlett Packard) store.

And I'm not a Harry Potter fan -- I can't even get through one of the movies -- but, boy, anything with HP on it brings in the bucks and the masses.

I love Simpsons, but I think it hit its prime years ago. F&F? I'm willing to bet if you took 50 people and asked them if they even saw any of those movies, 40 hadn't.

Shall be interesting, no doubt, to see what goes in BTTF's spot.
 
I too hate to see fav rides go, but in order to keep peeps coming back, they have to keep up. How many peeps have mentioned that UO needs some "new/fresh stuff"?? ....and that goes for Disney too...you have to keep up with the times and technology or it's going to get "old"...FAST...and peeps will take their money elsewheres......(JMHO--no flames please!)
 
bubba's mom said:
I too hate to see fav rides go, but in order to keep peeps coming back, they have to keep up. How many peeps have mentioned that UO needs some "new/fresh stuff"?? ....and that goes for Disney too...you have to keep up with the times and technology or it's going to get "old"...FAST...and peeps will take their money elsewheres......(JMHO--no flames please!)

No flames here, just thoughtful discussion of the issues. For the most part, obvious examples such as 20K and Mr Toad notwithstanding, Disney seems to have done a pretty good job of hitting that balance between keeping the classics and adding the fresh stuff. Can you imagine the outcry if Its A Small World were ripped out and replaced with something from a new, faddish film? (Just an example, I personally despise that attraction). So Disney balances it all out, sometimes they make mistakes, but usually they do pretty well.

Universal, on the other hand, seems to have ignored that equation completely. Need a new thrill attraction? Why not house it in the old Nickelodeon building, which is currently empty 90% of the time, except when pressed into service once a year as costume central for HHN? Why not put SOMETHING, anything, in the old Murder She Wrote theater that's been empty for years?

Having worked for Universal off and on since 1992, I've got a fair idea of what the "classic" attractions are/were: Kong, BTTF, Jaws, ET, Hitch. I'd add the original Earthquake to that list, though it's been so long since it was what it was designed to be, I doubt very many even remember its glory days.

That leaves an awfully long list of updatable attractions. I personally think it's criminal to have changed Hanna-Barbera to Jimmy Neutron (a classic to a fad), but I can understand the reasoning behind it. And in that case, all that was really altered was the film. The ride itself was tweaked but not destroyed. And I'd be willing to bet that somewhere in the Universal vaults resides the original film, just in case the Neutron fad crashes and burns. The Beetlejuice Graveyard Revue is another excellent example of updating without destroying. Although some of the incarnations have been awful, others have been well-done. That show is constantly revamped in an effort to keep it new, but without sacrificing what us old-school fans have come to expect. Same thing with the Horror Makeup Show. I'd be crushed if it went away, but I love watching the constant evolution. Same thing with Animal Planet Live, which replaced Animal Actors.

Some things can, and should, be shut down permanently to make room for others. I loved the old Murder She Wrote post-production show, but the series didn't become a "classic" in that sense. I'd love to have seen it revamped and based around a new property, but I understand that modern audiences don't care so much about how editing happens. Shutting down the Wild West Stunt Show and using the theatre for Fear Factor was brilliant. Same concept, new branding/audience participation element. Awesome.

So in essence, my opinion is that there is plenty of room for Universal to update/revamp/add on, but they need to keep an eye towards their audience. A big chunk of their audience are loyalists, who have been avid fans since the beginning, and getting rid of everything we held dear is not the best way to retain us, or encourage us to bring our kids into the parks.

Just my opinions, of course.
 
JLTraveling said:
No flames here, just thoughtful discussion of the issues. For the most part, obvious examples such as 20K and Mr Toad notwithstanding, Disney seems to have done a pretty good job of hitting that balance between keeping the classics and adding the fresh stuff. Can you imagine the outcry if Its A Small World were ripped out and replaced with something from a new, faddish film? (Just an example, I personally despise that attraction). So Disney balances it all out, sometimes they make mistakes, but usually they do pretty well.

Universal, on the other hand, seems to have ignored that equation completely. Need a new thrill attraction? Why not house it in the old Nickelodeon building, which is currently empty 90% of the time, except when pressed into service once a year as costume central for HHN? Why not put SOMETHING, anything, in the old Murder She Wrote theater that's been empty for years?

Having worked for Universal off and on since 1992, I've got a fair idea of what the "classic" attractions are/were: Kong, BTTF, Jaws, ET, Hitch. I'd add the original Earthquake to that list, though it's been so long since it was what it was designed to be, I doubt very many even remember its glory days.

That leaves an awfully long list of updatable attractions. I personally think it's criminal to have changed Hanna-Barbera to Jimmy Neutron (a classic to a fad), but I can understand the reasoning behind it. And in that case, all that was really altered was the film. The ride itself was tweaked but not destroyed. And I'd be willing to bet that somewhere in the Universal vaults resides the original film, just in case the Neutron fad crashes and burns. The Beetlejuice Graveyard Revue is another excellent example of updating without destroying. Although some of the incarnations have been awful, others have been well-done. That show is constantly revamped in an effort to keep it new, but without sacrificing what us old-school fans have come to expect. Same thing with the Horror Makeup Show. I'd be crushed if it went away, but I love watching the constant evolution. Same thing with Animal Planet Live, which replaced Animal Actors.

Some things can, and should, be shut down permanently to make room for others. I loved the old Murder She Wrote post-production show, but the series didn't become a "classic" in that sense. I'd love to have seen it revamped and based around a new property, but I understand that modern audiences don't care so much about how editing happens. Shutting down the Wild West Stunt Show and using the theatre for Fear Factor was brilliant. Same concept, new branding/audience participation element. Awesome.

So in essence, my opinion is that there is plenty of room for Universal to update/revamp/add on, but they need to keep an eye towards their audience. A big chunk of their audience are loyalists, who have been avid fans since the beginning, and getting rid of everything we held dear is not the best way to retain us, or encourage us to bring our kids into the parks.

Just my opinions, of course.

I think the difference is though, that the Disney classics are all still watched by the kids and the Universal Classics really aren't. Universal seems to be the place to go for modern stuff.
 
JLTraveling said:
I personally think it's criminal to have changed Hanna-Barbera to Jimmy Neutron (a classic to a fad), but I can understand the reasoning behind it. And in that case, all that was really altered was the film. The ride itself was tweaked but not destroyed. And I'd be willing to bet that somewhere in the Universal vaults resides the original film, just in case the Neutron fad crashes and burns.

Note: We were at PKD this summer and saw/did that Hanna Barbera show/ride. Let me tell you....Universal did a good thing by updating it with JN. Having been on JN in July and on HB in August, i was more impressed with JN than HB. Altho HB being a classic, it did seem better to update w/ JN, the HB was "less thrilling/fun" than JN.......I did remember the seats at HB tho....2 individual seats (slightly reclined) together with a seatbelt that came across your lap and they buckled in the middle console....yep, I remembered them! Anyhows, it's interesting to read everyone's opinions and how each has a different perspective......
 
JLTraveling said:
I loved the old Murder She Wrote post-production show, but the series didn't become a "classic" in that sense. I'd love to have seen it revamped and based around a new property, but I understand that modern audiences don't care so much about how editing happens.


I liked Hercules / Xena better...
Same script, different actors



:thumbsup2


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I think US has done probably the best job of the Orlando parks as far as evolution goes. Hitchcock, HB, Murder She wrote...we're better off not having them. my grandparents watched Murder She Wrote. I want the Lucy Tribute out of there as well.

I would like them to bring back more of a Studios feel, though. the Boneyard, props, and actual production.
 
Well...I have to disagree with you about being better off without Hitch. Universal is known for its horror background, and Alfred Hitchcock is still the gold standard of the horror industry. I think it's good for kids to be exposed to the work of the master.

I'll agree with you on bringing back production though. Way back when, wasn't Orlando being billed as Hollywood East? Lots of production at both Universal and MGM. Now neither park has got much to speak of. Sad really.
 
Although it seemed like a really cool ride when I first rode it in 1992, now it's just a killer. Ride technology has advanced so far beyond BTTF that the ride now seems like punishment rather than enjoyment...then again, , maybe I'm just too old to handle being tossed around like that anymore ;)

Either way, I won't be sorry to see it replaced.
 


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