Quitting a job - vacation earned

[Snowflakey]

I hope you like your new job, because your whining about this issue has cost you any possible reference from your office and the corporation.

ha ha ha you are just a bundle of sunshine thanks for the kind words!!!

 

[Snowflakey]

No intention of stalking you or determining where you are - but it's clearly not Massachusetts. Like California, there's a law here requiring payment of earned vacation time: "Employers who choose to provide paid vacation to their workers must treat those payments like any other wages. When employment ends, the worker must be paid for all unused vacation time earned under the employer's policy.

The AGO urges employers to have clear, written vacation policies. Every employer should give each new worker a copy of the policy when the worker is hired and ask the worker to acknowledge in writing that the worker understands the policy."

I get that your Labor Board doesn't address this. Contact your state's Attorney General instead - that's the agency which handles it here.

What was the policy when you were part of the main company - i.e. the first 96%+ of your history with them? I'd want to know why/when the policy changed, if it did, and why you weren't informed.

When I was a part of the main company, for 26 years, and my job ended (they closed our office country wide) I was paid out my vacation and a very, very kind severance package too.

 

[morgan98]

My company has employees in almost every state and in most cases we were required to pay out accrued vacation when someone left. That was up until this year where we went to an unlimited vacation time policy. Since vacation time is now unlimited and NOT accrued we are not required to payout vacation time when someone leaves.

I was going to mention unlimited PTO. We are actually considering this where I work and other companies in our industry have already done it. While unlimited PTO sounds fabulous in theory, very few people were able to use all of their PTO in the first place. By switching to the unlimited policy, there is no longer anything to payout when someone leaves and the company no longer has the large vacation accrual on its books.

 

[Snowflakey]

"I don't feel comfortable saying the State. Sorry. I've been with this company 27 years"

Whoa!! Hold on one second. You've been employed by this company for 27 YEARS???
And they are crapping on you over 6 days? Quit. Take your days with you. After a lifetime of dedication to a company, you deserve to be treated better. They're upset. So what. It's not your burden any longer as you've made a choice to move on for something more suitable to YOUR needs. They could have been amicable, but now are just going to squeeze what's left out of you to the very last moment.

They should be happy for you and throwing you a going away good luck on your new adventure party!

I suggest you contact your NEW employer, and see if you can move your start date to two weeks and a weekend from the day you told your current employer you're leaving.
Good riddance!

THANK YOU!! I don't care for anything from them for me leaving except respect as I have done nothing but given them that. And yes, they are squeezing whatever they can out of me in the meantime..........

 

[KAMLEM]

I was going to mention unlimited PTO. We are actually considering this where I work and other companies in our industry have already done it. While unlimited PTO sounds fabulous in theory, very few people were able to use all of their PTO in the first place. By switching to the unlimited policy, there is not longer anything to payout when some leaves and the company no longer has the large vacation accrual on its books.

Exactly, the company profits much more than the employees but they try to sell it as a benefit.

 

[momz]

In my line of work, once you give notice, you cannot request PTO. That would be essentially changing your intended last day of work to an earlier date. That is not allowed, and also it would be inconsiderate even if it was permitted. I think that is a very unprofessional thing to do and could result in a "do not re-hire" note in your file.

Be careful how you proceed, you don't need to burn a bridge. Especially if you have worked in this position for 27 years. You will most likely need to rely on these people for a reference at some point and you don't need to be leaving on bad terms.

You should have educated yourself on your company's PTO policy and process of severing employment BEFORE giving notice.

 

[kamik86]

In my line of work, once you give notice, you cannot request PTO. That would be essentially changing your intended last day of work to an earlier date. That is not allowed, and also it would be inconsiderate even if it was permitted. I think that is a very unprofessional thing to do and could result in a "do not re-hire" note in your file.

Be careful how you proceed, you don't need to burn a bridge. Especially if you have worked in this position for 27 years. You will most likely need to rely on these people for a reference at some point and you don't need to be leaving on bad terms.

You should have educated yourself on your company's PTO policy and process of severing employment BEFORE giving notice.

My company is the same way, the day you officically put in your notice you can no longer take any PTO. The company will pay out any accrued time when you leave though.

 

[Snowflakey]

In my line of work, once you give notice, you cannot request PTO. That would be essentially changing your intended last day of work to an earlier date. That is not allowed, and also it would be inconsiderate even if it was permitted. I think that is a very unprofessional thing to do and could result in a "do not re-hire" note in your file.

Be careful how you proceed, you don't need to burn a bridge. Especially if you have worked in this position for 27 years. You will most likely need to rely on these people for a reference at some point and you don't need to be leaving on bad terms.

You should have educated yourself on your company's PTO policy and process of severing employment BEFORE giving notice.

UPDATE - I got all of my vacation days granted!!!!!!!!!!!!!! No burning bridges here. Woo hoo!!!

 

[mi*vida*loca]

Just because you can doesn't mean you should. Glad your job did the right thing!

 

[CarolAnn856]

When I was a part of the main company, for 26 years, and my job ended (they closed our office country wide) I was paid out my vacation and a very, very kind severance package too.

So, you don't work for the original company, correct? Given that you got s severance package, it seems like those 26 years are in the past. Did they actually re-hire you, or did a former boss start his/her own company and hire you?

As others have said, nothing you have written indicates any kind of discrimination, so I hope you are no longer claiming that.

Out of curiosity, I looked at your older threads. If you are in the same state as you were before, this is what I found:

Q: If I quit or am discharged, will I receive pay for vacation or sick leave?

A: Your employer does not have to pay you unless he/she had provided you with a written statement agreeing to pay for earned, but unused time. If you feel that you meet the terms and conditions provided in the employer’s written statement of benefits, but did not receive payment, you may complete a wage claim form.

Since you said that a payout was not specifically written i to your employment letter, it looks like you are legally out of luck.

 

[Snowflakey]

So, you don't work for the original company, correct? Given that you got s severance package, it seems like those 26 years are in the past. Did they actually re-hire you, or did a former boss start his/her own company and hire you?

As others have said, nothing you have written indicates any kind of discrimination, so I hope you are no longer claiming that.

Out of curiosity, I looked at your older threads. If you are in the same state as you were before, this is what I found:



Since you said that a payout was not specifically written i to your employment letter, it looks like you are legally out of luck.

I'm not out of luck - see my update I got all 7 days!

 

[Snowflakey]

UPDATE - THANKS EVERYONE. I GOT ALL 7 VACATION DAYS!! THIS THREAD IS OFFICIALLY BEATEN TO DEATH AND OVER WITH. HA HA

 

[RedAngie]

Gee, how did I know there would be another DIS miracle with this thread?

 

[piccolopat]

Have you considered talking to your new company about an earlier start date? If so, you might give your current company what remains of a two week notice, take a week for yourself and then start the new job. Good luck!

 

[Snowflakey]

Gee, how did I know there would be another DIS miracle with this thread?

Miracles are all around us!

 

[Snowflakey]

Have you considered talking to your new company about an earlier start date? If so, you might give your current company what remains of a two week notice, take a week for yourself and then start the new job. Good luck!

They have a temp person there until the end of the month so I don't want for them to lose out on what they were expecting.

 

[anniemae]

I thought it was 6 days of vaca, you said you got all 7 ? Either way, glad it worked out!

 

[disneychrista]

What State? Some states (California is one of them) require you be paid out your accrued vacation & PTO time. As odd as it is there is NOTHING that compels the company to allow you to use your time. And they can cap your accrual at a "reasonable" rate.

I regularly lose accrual because I am maxed out and not allowed to take time off. I would like to feel flattered that I am so valuable that they can't survive without me but it actually just sucks.

 

[disneychrista]

I'm paid bi monthly, salaried.

I assume you mean semi-monthly (twice a month) not bi-monthly (every 2 months).

 

[sonnyjane]

I assume you mean semi-monthly (twice a month) not bi-monthly (every 2 months).

Since OP's problems have been solved, we can argue over words lol. It technically means either.

bi·month·ly
ˌbīˈmənTHlē/
adjective
adjective: bimonthly; adjective: bi-monthly
1.
occurring or produced twice a month or every two months.