question regarding out of order numbering on photos

[DisneySuiteFreak]

Hi all,
I have a question. For some reason, my son's graduation photos are numbered out of order. The majority are fine, but then the last 20 or so get all weird. I didn't change anything in camera or in how I took the photos, they're just out of order. Some taken before the ceremony was over are showing up mixed in with the after photos. The only reason I even realized it was because it was his grad photos and I notice they were not in sequence. When you click on an out of order thumbnail, it opens up to a completely different photo. I have an 8gig SD card and I know at the time I did have a whole bunch of other stuff on there and those are fine. Nevertheless, this is the first time I've noticed it, the memories are precious, and I have reformatted the card before realizing there was a problem.
I thought of renaming them, but that won't fix the fact that when you click on one picture, it's opening another picture. Why would it do this and how can I fix it?
Thanks for any help!
DSF

 

[jfulcer]

I don't think it's the camera, I think it's whatever software you are using to view them. It sounds like there is an issue with the thumbnails that it created. what software are you using to view them?

 

[JR6ooo4]

Are you viewing them on the camera or on the computer.

Couple quick checks
if on the computer, open the file then choose view>details>click "file name" to sort the pic files.

to check the numbering, open a photo>right click>properties>exif info - embedded in each file will tell you the original number that the camera assigned. See if the exif number and the file name match.

Mikeeee

 

[DisneySuiteFreak]

I don't think it's the camera, I think it's whatever software you are using to view them. It sounds like there is an issue with the thumbnails that it created. what software are you using to view them?

I'm just using the standard Windows Picture and Fax Viewer. But it does it even when I open with Irfanview, Photoshop album or Picassa. I used Nikon's Picture Project to load it into the computer from the camera. I've used it since then with no issues that I know of. It's strange.

 

[DisneySuiteFreak]

Are you viewing them on the camera or on the computer.

Couple quick checks
if on the computer, open the file then choose view>details>click "file name" to sort the pic files.

to check the numbering, open a photo>right click>properties>exif info - embedded in each file will tell you the original number that the camera assigned. See if the exif number and the file name match.

Mikeeee

When I right click>properties>exif info it doesn't show the original number in there under the exif info - not as far as I can see. Where about is it in the exif info? It only shows it when I right click> properties on the tab that says 'general' it shows the same number as what I am looking at in the thumbnail version, but again the picture is different.
When I use Iexif, it does the same thing.
Is it possible to just change the names and have it show up correctly? This is so irritating! I am one who normally leaves the data on the SD card for months, but in this case I dumped it as soon as I uploaded it into the 'puter. I should've known better... These are the only photos I have of my son's graduation.

 

[handicap18]

Do you still have the images on the SD card? If so check there for the file number to see what it is giving.

I've noticed every now and then with the Nikon software that I'll get a few pics out of order even though they have the correct number. When they do get into their folder their numbers are correct.

Did you shoot in RAW or JPEG? Is is possible that the rename file button was hit before you started the transfer?

 

[handicap18]

double post............. dohh

 

[DisneySuiteFreak]

Do you still have the images on the SD card? If so check there for the file number to see what it is giving.

I've noticed every now and then with the Nikon software that I'll get a few pics out of order even though they have the correct number. When they do get into their folder their numbers are correct.

Did you shoot in RAW or JPEG? Is is possible that the rename file button was hit before you started the transfer?

OMG Handicap18 Thank you so much!!! I don't have the files on the SD card anymore. I had moved the files out of Picture project into a new folder. When I moved them back into the original Picture Project folder where it came from, they magically corrected themselves! You're the man! Thank you, thank you, thank you! I never would have thought to move it back to where it came from to fix it.
So for my next question, will I have to worry about if getting messed up again if I put it back into the other folder?
DSF

 

[DisneySuiteFreak]

So for my next question, will I have to worry about if getting messed up again if I put it back into the other folder?
DSF

Okay so to answer my own question for anyone else who may encounter this problem, when I copied the pictures back to the other folder (not the one in Picture Project the one I created after PP), it still read it as messed up in order. So I dumped the entire folder, created a new one and recopied the photos from Picture Project into the new folder and it worked fine! There must've been something about the old folder that made it read the photos order oddly. Anyway it's fine now. Thanks again Handicap18!

 

[handicap18]

I'm glad you could help. hehehe

I will use PP to transfer from the SD card to a folder that I create in My Pictures rather than in a PP folder. I also change the file name (I'm over 10,000 images and after 9,999 the D50 goes back to 0,001). So I just add a 1 to the number to make it a 5 digit number in transfer. So even though on the SD card it says 4678. I change it to 14678. I haven't had any issues, except for the occassional weird spot an image or 2 will go to. It normally corrects itself though.

 

[Groucho]

Bizarro! This is the danger of using a program that renames your photos when taking them off the memory card... I just use regular old copy operations, like with Windows Explorer (except I use PowerDesk, a different file manager.)

Since you already have Irfanview, I'll mention that it does have the ability to rename your photos so that they're in order again - you'll want to do a batch rename, add all the affected photos, give them a slightly different name (so you're not in danger of overlapping names), and sort by the date. This will sort by the date stored in the exif data, so they'll all have correct sequential numbering when you're done.

 

[handicap18]

I don't think there is much of an issue with Picture Project, Groucho. Its the Nikon software that came with my Nikon D50 and that is one of its intended uses. I believe it also comes with the other Nikon dSLR's and most of the PnS camera's too. Its just a very basic software package that will do a tiny amount of post processing, transfering from memory card to computer (I can view all the RAW images before transfering), renaming and converting from RAW to TIFF or JPEG (though I actually use another program for that, but that other program is not so easy to use for transfering from the memory card).

 

[DisneySuiteFreak]

Bizarro! This is the danger of using a program that renames your photos when taking them off the memory card... I just use regular old copy operations, like with Windows Explorer (except I use PowerDesk, a different file manager.)

Since you already have Irfanview, I'll mention that it does have the ability to rename your photos so that they're in order again - you'll want to do a batch rename, add all the affected photos, give them a slightly different name (so you're not in danger of overlapping names), and sort by the date. This will sort by the date stored in the exif data, so they'll all have correct sequential numbering when you're done.

Thanks Groucho. PP is the software that came w/ the camera. I think it may be some kind of a bug issue or something like that. It's the first time it's ever happened to me. Thanks for the info on Irfanview. I don't know enough about how to use any of these types of software, much less doing batch processing of any kind. Is there kind of online tutorial for how to use Irfanview? I know I haven't even begun to tap into what can be done w/ it.