Question about SSR as home resort

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I just saw a post where at 7 months out, you are most likely to be booking at the SSR.

I took this to mean that it is easier to get a reservation at SSR and may not be my best choice for a home resort. I should choose another tougher resort in my list so I can get it at the 11 month window there and I can always get SSR at 7 months.

Is my thinking correct?

Here is my list of resorts I am looking at as a home resort
1A BCV
1B SSR
1C VWL
4 BWV
5 OKW

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If you are looking for having an advantage at 11 months than SSR really doesn't help since as you said it is available at 7 months (although it is tight a couple of nights a year the last couple of years). If you want to stay at BCV during food and wine, use the 2 queen rooms, or be able to stay for a trip more than 5 days in the summer on a regular basis than you are better off buying there for availability at 11 months. VWL is hard to get during the holidays but not as hard the rest of the year.
 
No, I wouldn't state it exactly that way. SSR is one of the most economical ways to own DVC - low dues and one of the lower initial purchase price. It is a good choice for a home resort if it's a resort you like to stay or at least don't mind staying there if you can't book somewhere else or also if you don't have a definite resort preference and want to stay at various resorts. The time of year you like to go also can make a difference depending on if it's a popular DVC time or one of the slower times. Also, if you will not consistently use the home resort booking period it doesn't matter where you own so SSR makes sense then too.
 
If you want BCV as a home resort, then buy BCV unless you don't mind taking a chance at 7 months hoping that something is available.

:earsboy: Bill
 

BCV and VWL are two of the smallest DVC resorts. If you want to stay at one of those resorts regularly, you will need to own there, as PP have stated. You might want to do some more research before deciding; to be sure you understand the DVC 11/7 month booking windows, the options for if you bank/borrow and then have to cancel, and making your HR choice.
 
If BCV is the top of your list it is best to buy there. It is tough to get in at 7 months out, specifically at certain times of the year (ie: F&W time) and studios are tough to get.
 
It's a good point about the size of the rooms too. 1br's will be easier to secure at 7 months. Studios more difficult.
 
I am in the process of buying into SSR right now. After reading a lot of articles and guides, I came up with the following summary:

1) If you don't like SSR, then don't buy SSR.
2) If you are flexible on where you stay, then choose SSR.
3) If you are flexible on when you stay, then choose SSR.
4) If you are inflexible on where and when you stay, then you should buy where you want to stay.
 
I am in the process of buying into SSR right now. After reading a lot of articles and guides, I came up with the following summary:

1) If you don't like SSR, then don't buy SSR.
2) If you are flexible on where you stay, then choose SSR.
3) If you are flexible on when you stay, then choose SSR.
4) If you are inflexible on where and when you stay, then you should buy where you want to stay.

That's a pretty good summary.

Also, if you like SSR and want to stay there, buy SSR. No need to buy more expensive points to use at a resort that is priced lower.
 
I am in the process of buying into SSR right now. After reading a lot of articles and guides, I came up with the following summary:

1) If you don't like SSR, then don't buy SSR.
2) If you are flexible on where you stay, then choose SSR.
3) If you are flexible on when you stay, then choose SSR.
4) If you are inflexible on where and when you stay, then you should buy where you want to stay.

Good summary. Also
5. If you will not need the 11mo home resort advantage, and often book at 7mo or less, buy SSR.
 
One factor which I've noticed but don't see mentioned is that if you like longer trips of 10 nights or so, as I do, it's harder to find a block of that many nights in a row at 7 months than it is to find blocks of shorter duration.
Looking at your list, I assume the end date of the resort's contract isn't a variable that you are concerned about?
 
I just saw a post where at 7 months out, you are most likely to be booking at the SSR.

I took this to mean that it is easier to get a reservation at SSR and may not be my best choice for a home resort. I should choose another tougher resort in my list so I can get it at the 11 month window there and I can always get SSR at 7 months.

Is my thinking correct?

Here is my list of resorts I am looking at as a home resort
1A BCV
1B SSR
1C VWL
4 BWV
5 OKW

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Or SSR may be your best choice, it depends. IMO it's all about balance. Balance between up front costs, yearly fees, how you'll use it, where you'd prefer to stay and how disappointed you'll be if you can't get what you want. IMO most new buyers don't have enough knowledge and experience to know where they want to stay most or how they'll feel at a resort that's not their first choice. The only way to truly know this is to stay at all of the resorts at least once but that's not realistic other than second generation type buyers. Having a good timeshare base and a little Disney base or an extensive Disney base are realistically the best situation for most people. Even then a trip or 2 to a DVC resort using points (rental) is advisable even if one meets the other criteria. It's just not the same staying on cash. I'd suggest 6 months of active investigation and at least 1 or 2 DVC stays. I also feel a good off property trip in a good timeshare is advisable. An off property stay 20 yrs ago in motel 6 does count.

Only you can answer these questions. In addition one needs to be able to afford it (to me that's pay cash with no consumer debt), plan at least 7 months out and be OK with the commitment, risks, & limitations of a timeshare. Basically most new buyers don't understand these issues and almost none are going to be in a position to truly know the best home resort for them. And it may change over the years, it has for many if not most of us. Many new buyers go in thinking they want the newest resort because it's new and hyped and that approach is VERY expensive. If one did that with VGF or Poly, you'd pay 2.5 times up front and 25% more yearly assuming you bought the same number of points compared to SSR. Then you just need to decide what compromise works for you, if any. If one buys VGF or Poly, they should buy a fixed week IMO, even if it's not the unit size or time of year they plan to use assuming the points amounts is within reason to what they need.

I'm a big believer in underbuying both in terms of points and home resort. Assuming current prices, the best dollar value for WDW is almost always SSR. BLT, AKV and BWV can be great options IF one will use the specialty villa options consistently. BLT is the best value for a monorail resort or MK resort over VWL even at the higher price due to the standard view villas and lower fees. The exception to underbuying contract size is that generally most buyers should start at 150 or above even if they have to wait to be able to afford it or rent out every few years to use up points.

I would agree that family size and villa size affects choices somewhat. The best choices for a family of 5 can be somewhat different though in the end most families of 4 or above are best looking at 2 BR once the kids get old enough to bring friends, not sleep together and complain about the pullout. IMO BCV is one of the poorer values in that it's small, has multiple booking categories, is higher comparatively and has relatively high fees. For the EPCOT area I feel BWV is a much better value because not only is it lower up front, it has the standard view villas and it has more rooms helping a little with availability. It does have a lot of booking categories as well and all of the villas are lockoff's which can be good or bad depending since the second in a 2 BR is one bed and a pullout.

For most new buyers I'd suggest SSR is the best option going in. Then if they find the one perfect love they can either buy an additional contract (one reason to underbuy points) or sell and re-buy. This is a much better and cheaper option that overbuying. AKV will be 25% more long term, VGF/Poly will be 3 times as much long term and most of the rest expire 2042. OKW worries me due to the fact that more than half of the buyers there will drop out in 2042 creating a difficult situation for dues and resort management. They may transition it well, they may not, it simply adds risk.

Assuming one isn't trying for specialty items at the other resorts (AKV value/concierge, BWV standard, BCV 2Q 2BR, BLT standard, VGF in general) one should be able to try other resorts on a routine basis most of the time. Assuming one isn't traveling weeks 13, 14, 27, 51 or 52, one should be able to stay at all resorts over time with good planning including VGF. People say (and I used to) "buy where you want to stay" but I feel that's wrong and has the risk of encouraging people to overspend due to emotional reasons. I don't believe most new buyers can answer that question accurately of where they'll want to stay, likely a better version is "buy where you wouldn't be upset staying if you couldn't get anything else" and even that assumes the experiences I mentioned above. Those where finances don't matter at all are unlikely to buy DVC regardless, this assumes one actually cares about cost and value. Bill frequently makes the point one can always sell if the home resort or purchase doesn't work out and I'd agree with that up to a point but ONLY if it's a resale purchase and not VB or HH and it makes the underbuying all the better choice.

Some will tell you to buy multiple smaller contracts for insurance in selling later. IMO this is a poor choice if it costs much more and it does in every case except possibly if you can find a single owner with multiple contracts that are linked together. It can easily add $10-20 a point to the buy in, that's very expensive insurance since I feel one should NEVER buy with the specific intent to sell later assuming market prices. IMO it's not difficult to own at SSR and never or almost never stay there eve for early Dec and Xmas.
 
For real life experience, I have owned a SSR since it was built and have never been forced to stay there as my only choice at seven months. In fact I usually get the resort and dates I want at seven months. VWL have been the hardest to book for me believe it or not. I travel mostly Spring break, summer, and fall.
 
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Hi thank you the responses, but I don't think I explained myself correctly. Because I didn't get the answer I was looking for.

BCV is not at the top of my list. The top is BCV, SSR or VWL. I will be happy at any of the 3 as a home resort. But I like to try different resorts from time to time and will probably find myself buying into multiple resorts just for the 11 month advantage in those resorts.

But for my first resort, it seems like buying BCV or VWL is a better first choice because it might be easier to get into SSR at 7 months than any other resort when I want to stay someplace different.
 
Hi thank you the responses, but I don't think I explained myself correctly. Because I didn't get the answer I was looking for.

BCV is not at the top of my list. The top is BCV, SSR or VWL. I will be happy at any of the 3 as a home resort. But I like to try different resorts from time to time and will probably find myself buying into multiple resorts just for the 11 month advantage in those resorts.

But for my first resort, it seems like buying BCV or VWL is a better first choice because it might be easier to get into SSR at 7 months than any other resort when I want to stay someplace different.

I really don't know what answer you are looking for. I posted that you should buy at BCV since that was the first resort on your list. If BCV and VWL are your desired resorts then buy either. You are correct that SSR is easy to book at 7 months.

:earsboy: Bill
 
I truly believe , you should pick your home resort as some where you would be happy to stay at no matter what , because you never know what will be available at 7 months. SSR is my home resort and I love it! and its bang for your buck is great! but with saying that i have stayed at BCV , AKL value many times with luck of the draw booking . You are right SSR is easy to book most of the time , but @ 7 months those more expensive BCV points are the same as the more economical SSR points. Just a thought
 
I posted that you should buy at BCV since that was the first resort on your list.
you should pick your home resort as some where you would be happy to stay at no matter what

BCV is not the top. It is one of 3 that are top. All 3 I would be happy to stay at no matter what.

Are any of these 3 easier to get at 7 months than the others?
SSR, VWL, or BCV?
 
Hi thank you the responses, but I don't think I explained myself correctly. Because I didn't get the answer I was looking for.

BCV is not at the top of my list. The top is BCV, SSR or VWL. I will be happy at any of the 3 as a home resort. But I like to try different resorts from time to time and will probably find myself buying into multiple resorts just for the 11 month advantage in those resorts.

But for my first resort, it seems like buying BCV or VWL is a better first choice because it might be easier to get into SSR at 7 months than any other resort when I want to stay someplace different.
If the are all about equal then it comes down to finding the best price long term, that will be SSR of those 3. The other 2 give you nothing special other than an increased (but not guaranteed) option at that resort. I think that's an important aspect that buyers at certain resorts miss such as AKV concierge/value and VGF. Even at 11 months out there is no guarantee (but a better chance) and for high demand times one has to book at 11 months out else you're no better off than owning SSR anyway. VWL will be about the same price with higher dues and a shorter RTU of 12 yrs and BCV will be about $25 pp more with higher dues and a shorter RTU. For one who doesn't have a specific preference, there really isn't a choice IMO, esp when you realize there will be a lot more contract options buying SSR as well esp since UY is also very important. IF one wants something that adds value and isn't dramatically more expensive long term, I'd go with BLT. IF and only if the specialty options at AKV add value to YOU (not just in theory), AKV is also a consideration. The other alternatives that are reasonable to play the field if they appeal to you are VB and Aulani but only for a good price AND a subsidized contract but I'd only do these to use for both places routinely.
 
BCV is not the top. It is one of 3 that are top. All 3 I would be happy to stay at no matter what.

Are any of these 3 easier to get at 7 months than the others?
SSR, VWL, or BCV?
If you'd be happy at any of them, buy the cheapest. Be sure to include maintenance fees and contract term in you calculation of "cheapest."
 



















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