Queen Elizabeth funeral and looking forward

[FigmentSpark]

It’s funny you said that because I thought the EXACT same thing today!

She always has a look on her face - a kind of smug smirk.

But I’m trying to be nicer & more charitable toward her, so I told myself that maybe it‘s just the shape of her face & how she holds her mouth & lips.

I'm no Meghan apologist, but maybe that's actually a look of uncomfortably trying to smile or be friendly while not sure if she's even going to get a positive response back. I expect she's not that comfortable being at the funeral and on display to a people that she felt had turned against her and even booed her in the past.

 

[mamamia2005]

Meghan is definitely in a difficult position - but I can't help feeling a lot of it is of her own making.

However, this week, it's all about our beloved Queen. Meghan is there to support her husband Prince Harry who despite everything I'm sure is grieving for his Grandmother.

 

[White Cat]

It’s funny you said that because I thought the EXACT same thing today!

She always has a look on her face - a kind of smug smirk.

But I’m trying to be nicer & more charitable toward her, so I told myself that maybe it‘s just the shape of her face & how she holds her mouth & lips.

Plastic surgery.

 

[White Cat]

Meghan is definitely in a difficult position - but I can't help feeling a lot of it is of her own making.

However, this week, it's all about our beloved Queen. Meghan is there to support her husband Prince Harry who despite everything I'm sure is grieving for his Grandmother.

She’s most likely there to be seen on tv. Cant blame her though. Smart move.

 

[Marrila]

Meghan is definitely in a difficult position - but I can't help feeling a lot of it is of her own making.

However, this week, it's all about our beloved Queen. Meghan is there to support her husband Prince Harry who despite everything I'm sure is grieving for his Grandmother.

I think she will be ok. She and her husband will be back home in sunny California very soon. I'm sure they are looking forward to seeing the kids.

 

[mamamia2005]

I think she will be ok. She and her husband will be back home in sunny California very soon. I'm sure they are looking forward to seeing the kids.

As their stay in Europe has obviously been extended, I wasn't sure if the children had been flown over with their nanny.

 

[Tink-osophy]

It hit me when The Queen arrived in London. The tears flowed. Not sure there will be a more beloved figure in my lifetime. Strength, class, grace, faith, loyalty …truly an amazing woman.

#NeverComplainNeverExplain

Well said.

#NeverComplainNeverExplain

Yes… I teared up too.

She was special.

I feel like the life of Queen Elizabeth was like a bridge linking the past to the present, & this is definitely the ending of an era. And our world is definitely missing something now w/ her gone.

Nicely put. This century, especially, she was something of a rock for the country - a quiet rock. I'm glad we don't just rely on our revolving door(!) of PMs and that we have a kind of shared leadership.

I'm no Meghan apologist, but maybe that's actually a look of uncomfortably trying to smile or be friendly while not sure if she's even going to get a positive response back. I expect she's not that comfortable being at the funeral and on display to a people that she felt had turned against her and even booed her in the past.

I imagine she felt very self-conscious for a variety of reasons. Of course, if she didn't keep turning on the family, institution (and in-so-doing the country) she would have received a warmer welcome. She was, after all, very warmly treated on her wedding day. You can't consistently attack people and then expect to join back in with them as if it hadn't happened.

ETA: I think there's an opportunity for her to show some of the compassion she seems to have been missing. If she did, then she might well get an olive brunch in return. Regaining trust would take some time, though.

Meghan is definitely in a difficult position - but I can't help feeling a lot of it is of her own making.

However, this week, it's all about our beloved Queen. Meghan is there to support her husband Prince Harry who despite everything I'm sure is grieving for his Grandmother.

Yes, it is about the Queen.


It's taken me a long time, as a Brit, really to understand the monarchy and the Queen, so I'm not surprised there are some on here who don't understand it! (Most have compassion anyway, of course.) All this pomp and ceremony are meaningful, but they are, also, far from the reality of our daily lives! IOW, it doesn't mean we live in the past, just that threads from the past still run through in some places. Maybe, that's why so many are surprised by the strength of their feelings. We took the Queen for granted. She was always there and for such a long time, it just feels a bit ...strange... now. It's also brought up personal grief for many, I think.

 

[TLSnell1981]

The Telegraph reports that Harry's book is delayed till next year. Not sure if that's a blessing or a curse. I hope for the first.

I'm guessing at least until after the coronation. I'm sure they want an invite.

 

[TippyThomas]

Persistence is a virtue.

 

[fla4fun]

Also, why does Megan always seem to be smirking? Even in the processional. Maybe it's just the shape of her face/mouth but it's so odd.

She always has a look on her face - a kind of smug smirk.

I'm no Meghan apologist, but maybe that's actually a look of uncomfortably trying to smile or be friendly while not sure if she's even going to get a positive response back. I expect she's not that comfortable being at the funeral and on display to a people that she felt had turned against her and even booed her in the past.

I am not a Meghan apologist either, and I agree that she often has a smirky expression on her face, and a superior tone to her voice. At least, that is the way it comes across, even if that is not her intention. I have often wondered if, as an actress, she sat in front of a mirror practicing her public expression until it became a habit. Publicity, especially in photos, can make or break a Hollywood career, and the expression seems the same from before she met Harry to now. I have seen similar looks on other actors, at premieres and awards shows, and felt they were being fake in that moment instead of being natural.

That being said, particularly at Windsor and at the brief service today, there were moments where that mask seemed to slip. There were “blink and you will miss it” flashes of what appeared to be emotional discomfort and even fear. I know she and Harry have brought most of their negative publicity on themselves, no denying that, but I think she was concerned about how she in particular was going to be treated by the public. After the public heckling of Andrew (which I totally understand), she has to be wondering if someone in the crowds could be planning something similar for her. It may be a very eye opening time for her and I am sure they will both be happy to return to California.

I would like to think that at some point in the future, the two of them could be reconciled with the rest of the family. It would take time, and the rebuilding of trust, but I would like to think there is still hope. I can’t imagine not being close with my sister.

 

[supernova]

96

She definitely had a good run.

 

[AustinTink]

She definitely had a good run.

I can't imagine Charles ruling well into his 90's like his mom. He already looks so sickly to me. Those sausage fingers tell a story.

 

[AustinTink]

I would like to think that at some point in the future, the two of them could be reconciled with the rest of the family.

I hope so. It's so sad that Diana's boys are no longer close. She would have never allowed that to happen.

 

[dvcgirl67]

I can't imagine Charles ruling well into his 90's like his mom. He already looks so sickly to me. Those sausage fingers tell a story.

Yes...something is going on with his health for sure with the swelling in his hands, and apparently it's in his feet as well.

 

[Disneefun]

Yes...something is going on with his health for sure with the swelling in his hands, and apparently it's in his feet as well.

I've noticed this week that Camilla seems to have developed a tremor of her head. When you watch her when she's sitting or standing still, it's there. I'm sure it's exacerbated by fatigue, but I can't help wondering whether it's serious, like Parkinson's, or simply a function of aging.

 

[abdmom]

I've noticed this week that Camilla seems to have developed a tremor of her head. When you watch her when she's sitting or standing still, it's there. I'm sure it's exacerbated by fatigue, but I can't help wondering whether it's serious, like Parkinson's, or simply a function of aging.

It could just be fatigue. I'm sure they're all exhausted.

 

[mamamia2005]

I think the fact we've seen more of the senior royals, and for a longer time this week is possibly making us focus on them more, noticing things more.
I hope King Charles, the Queen consort and Princess Anne manage to get a day to themselves soon. None of them are young and the physical and mental toll this week must have taken will be significant.

 

[mousefan73]

I just read that Charles and Camilla are having a planned day off tomorrow. Both are at the country Estates. Didn’t realize she still kept her own private home that she bought after her divorce. I think they both need a really good nap. Anne too. Keep in mind these people are in their 70s. Even the procession today the walk like that and then having to stand at Westminster that alone is a physical toll.

 

[KayMichigan]

BBC livestream of the crowds filing by the Queen's casket:

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/uk-62...x9PJ5sREhqo0lQYcxdfacpK5u9lxD4PzeTJVyxHTxhYyA

 

[AppleDumpling]

I would like to think that at some point in the future, the two of them could be reconciled with the rest of the family. It would take time, and the rebuilding of trust, but I would like to think there is still hope.

I hope so. It's so sad that Diana's boys are no longer close. She would have never allowed that to happen.

I feel this way as well, and sincerely hope that William and Harry, over time, can regain some of the closeness they once had, now that their father is King. If their mother were alive, you know she’d be devastated by the current state of their relationship.

I don’t have strong feelings either way about Meghan. I remember thinking when she and Harry became engaged, that I was so happy for him. That he had chosen the woman he loved, and that she was being accepted despite being a commoner, an American, previously married, and biracial (all qualities that may have been problematic in a previous generation).

Life is short, and time (and in their case, distance) often heals wounds. Let’s also remember that Camilla once was considered the most hated woman in England. Public perception of her has clearly softened (helped in part perhaps by the support shown to her by the Queen, as well as William and Harry).