Queen Elizabeth funeral and looking forward

[Pea-n-Me]

Largely I think it's just monarchy, they have it we don't. We're very far removed from a monarchy and all the titles, lines of succession, etiquette rules, and more hold some sort of interest here for at least some people. Although we have celebrities and let's be honest a lot of those outside the U.S. probably don't get our fascination with celebrities and their lives.

I can always count on the DIS to have the scoop here on the monarchy and I read with a semi-coherent understanding of the information vastly deferring to those here with much more knowledge and understanding. We were in Vegas when the news hit but I had checked this thread and saw it before it was announced all over. I told my husband and he was like "oh yeah sure that board has the info"...yes yes it does. And shortly thereafter he messaged me that yes it had been officially announced.

That’s a riot! For me it’s not just the monarchy; it’s the way of life. In some ways I actually have mixed feelings about the monarchy. I admire QE II, but even she had some flaws (as every human does), though admittedly, they were relatively few and she is certainly more than well deserving of all the honors she’s receiving. From what I’ve read, many modern ruling monarchs have been very much concerned with how the people (taxpayers) view them and their lives of extraordinary privilege and excess, and probably even more so today, which is in part why Charles wants to slim things down, understandably. The family controversies of the past few years are really the last thing they want, or need. (They are rightfully quite concerned about a tell-all book about to be published from one of their own.) They also have to deal with the criticisms of colonialism that have plagued some of their visits abroad recently. So although it’s all steeped in deep tradition and mostly much revered, I think there are also things about it that are not above reproach, if that makes sense. I think a lot of the burden of dealing with this will fall on William’s shoulders, probably even before he becomes King himself, as he assists his father with navigating through all of it. (He’s done a great job so far! Imagine what he has to deal with between tradition and modernization!)

 

[Neapolitan Ice Cream]

I guess at least she's with her dear husband now...

 

[mousefan73]

Feeling for Anne and her husband.. That much have been awesome from their view to see all those crowds and hearttearing.
but great news! Andress and Fergie get the corgis!!!
Yes- for those confused it seems they have the best divorce ever. Still share a home, VERY large so they can avoid each other I guess, and are better friends now than then (per Fergie)

 

[TLSnell1981]

Feeling for Anne and her husband.. That much have been awesome from their view to see all those crowds and hearttearing.
but great news! Andress and Fergie get the corgis!!!
Yes- for those confused it seems they have the best divorce ever. Still share a home, VERY large so they can avoid each other I guess, and are better friends now than then (per Fergie)

It's unusual to see such a display of emotions from the RF. It humanizes them. They all loved and respected her very much. Losing Queen Elizabeth and Prince Phillip in little over a year is especially difficult for a family

 

[VandVsmama]

If reading points of view online that you disagree with make you really really angry, take a break and don't read it.

I saw the king's speech and I thought he did a great job delivering it. It was very warm and came across as genuine and heartfelt. And it was classy. The matriarch and head of their extended family has died and they all have to handle it in the public eye.

I have purposely not paid any attention to any Harry & Meghan Markle news or gossip on the matter because they are inconsequential to this in the grand scheme of things.

 

[mom2rtk]

I'm not a fan of Charles. Never have been. But I thought his speech came across very well, and gave me encouragement that he might be up for the huge task in front of him.

 

[mom2rtk]

We all clearly have very strong feelings about the Royal Family. For the next week though, before anyone posts anything edgy or snarky, I merely ask that they take a moment to rewatch this video. Twice if necessary. Because it's just everything. And means so much more now that the Queen is gone.

 

[ncc1701]

I have a very dear Cathy in my life so I must beg to differ. I had a Kathy with a K in school with me that was a queen B. Kathy with a K still sends shivers down my spine.

In my family it has been with a C not a K. It may be a cultural/ethnic thing. They are on the Scottish-American and Scots side of the family.

 

[Turn the Page]

Feeling for Anne and her husband.. That much have been awesome from their view to see all those crowds and hearttearing.
but great news! Andress and Fergie get the corgis!!!
Yes- for those confused it seems they have the best divorce ever. Still share a home, VERY large so they can avoid each other I guess, and are better friends now than then (per Fergie)

I have heard it said that Phillip couldn't stand Fergie and it was rumoured that they would likely remarry after Phillip passed. Obviously, they didn't in the last year and a half but maybe they will now that the queen has passed? Who knows.

 

[VandVsmama]

We all clearly have very strong feelings about the Royal Family. For the next week though, before anyone posts anything edgy or snarky, I merely ask that they take a moment to rewatch this video. Twice if necessary. Because it's just everything. And means so much more now that the Queen is gone.

Yeah, that just gave me ALL THE FEELS!!!

 

[Karin1984]

I am not a big fan of the Paddington sketch. Only because you can see how much weight the Queen has lost, the frailty is clearly visible. You know she stays seated because of the mobility issues. It reminds me how near she was to the end.

I prefer James Bond.

 

[SirDuff]

Let's not forget the nonstop drama! While the Queen was on her deathbed the plane carrying the RF sat on the tarmac for 69 minutes. This was after the Markle camp announced Harry and MM were going to Balmoral. Charles said...not going to happen. Harry ended up flying alone and the Queen died about 30 minutes before they arrived.

That doesn‘t tally with most reports that the Queen died long before Harry arrived. And before William, Edward, et. al arrived.

 

[SirDuff]

I am not a big fan of the Paddington sketch. Only because you can see how much weight the Queen has lost, the frailty is clearly visible. You know she stays seated because of the mobility issues. It reminds me how near she was to the end.

I prefer James Bond.

I did love that too. And I can understand your thoughts on the Paddington sketch - though I loved the cut away to the little Royals and their reaction to seeing their great-gran with Paddington.

 

[Jangles]

Zara Tindall, Anne’s daughter, is listed as Mrs. Husband’s Name. Beatrice and Eugenie too,

That’s customary in the U.K.

 

[mousefan73]

does anyone know if they will or have to release the death certificate a a public document? that will clear of who saw who, when discussion.

 

[Karin1984]

@mousefan73

Are you watching BBC1 at the moment? Your hot Scotsman is on!

 

[dvcgirl67]

does anyone know if they will or have to release the death certificate a a public document? that will clear of who saw who, when discussion.

Yes, I was wondering this too....or do they keep that private. Do we even know how she died? It seems there was some sort of catastrophic health event...she was able to stand and greet the new PM on a Tuesday and dead by Thursday. I know she was 96...but still wondering if she had a massive heart attack, stroke...etc.

 

[mom2rtk]

Yes, I was wondering this too....or do they keep that private. Do we even know how she died? It seems there was some sort of catastrophic health event...she was able to stand and greet the new PM on a Tuesday and dead by Thursday. I know she was 96...but still wondering if she had a massive heart attack, stroke...etc.

And it was something where she lingered long enough (supposedly) that family had time to gather before the passing.

 

[dvcgirl67]

And it was something where she lingered long enough (supposedly) that family had time to gather before the passing.

Yeah, I really wonder about that....whether even Charles and Anne were with her when she passed. Perhaps Anne was actually onsite at Balmoral....she seemed to be close to her Mother. And so I believe that certainly Anne may have been with her, or with her immediately after her passing. I think I read that Charles and Camilla were staying very nearby at another royal estate. Word went out over there around lunchtime (U.K. time) about the "concern" for her health....and I believe that by then she had passed. I really think that it was then about getting the rest of the children and certainly William there before the announcement was made. I believe those 6-7 hours were kind of a necessary thing for residents of the U.K. and really the world to prepare and kind of come to terms with the idea that the Queen had died. I know that as soon as I saw the news that I searched for and found several U.K. news outlets that were streaming live on Twitter that I could watch and listen to as I went about my day....because I guess I'm a bit of history buff and wanted to hear the news as it unfolded.

But I do think it's entirely possible that she died in her sleep from a catastrophic health event. We spent the day with my FIL yesterday to celebrate his 91st birthday. He's in great shape...still plays golf and everything. But he told us that every morning when he wakes up...that he's pleasantly surprised, but also that he prays that when he passes, that he just goes in his sleep. So, for the Queen's sake, and for that of her family....I hope that's how she went.

 

[CdnCarrie]

does anyone know if they will or have to release the death certificate a a public document? that will clear of who saw who, when discussion.

Why is that any of our business?