PTO Poll (see OP for the question)

What are your options for PTO

  • PTO time Use it or Lose it each year

    Votes: 20 23.8%
  • PTO time anything unused gets rolled over to the next year

    Votes: 16 19.0%
  • PTO time anything unused gets paid out at the end of the year

    Votes: 2 2.4%
  • PTO time limited amount can be rolled over to the next year

    Votes: 44 52.4%
  • PTO time limited amount gets paid out at the end of the year.

    Votes: 1 1.2%
  • Sick time Use it or Lose it each year

    Votes: 19 22.6%
  • Sick time anything unused gets rolled over to the next year

    Votes: 20 23.8%
  • Sick time anything unused gets paid out at the end of the year

    Votes: 1 1.2%
  • Sick time limited amount can be rolled over to the next year

    Votes: 8 9.5%
  • Sick time limited amount gets paid out at the end of the year.

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    84

sam_gordon

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For those who aren't "self employed", and even if you're retired, you can answer based on your last employer...

What are your options for your PTO (Vacation and Sick time have different poll answers). If you only have one "bucket" (Sick and Vacation in the same category), use the PTO.
 
When I was employed, it was use your vacation each year, no rolling over. Started with 2 weeks of vacation, went up to 3 weeks after 5 years, I didn't make it long enough to get 4 weeks, it was a long tenure for that. There never was any 'sick' time, we were paid when we were off sick, but no specified number of days, so obviously no rolling over or extra pay if you didn't need sick days.
 
Our sick time is separate from vacation time. We can carry over 10 vacation days (I get 30).

Sick time is pretty much unlimited. Their is an attendance policy for curbing abuse. There is no paying out or carrying over. Our sick time is basically same as short term disability.
 
No sick time. We can have up to 240 hours of PTO in our bucket at all times. At the company I work for all hourly employees get 25 days of PTO and Salary get 30 days PTO they accrue throughout the year. Every employee also gets 3 floating holidays at the beginning of the year that must be used by end of year and are not paid out if you leave.
 
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We can roll over up to 45 days of vacation at the end of the fiscal year (June 30 for us). Sick time is separate and any unused rolls over to the next year (max of 180 days overall).

At retirement, I can cash out up to 30 days of vacation and 45 days of sick time.
 
I actually have three options...

1. PTO- some unused can be rolled over each year (around 12 days, I think). You lose anything beyond that
2. Personal Days- We get two per year. They are an artifact of an old system, but nobody has moved to incorporate them into PTO. These are use them or lose them, so it's advised that we burn these first. I checked PTO use it or lose it to cover these.
3. Sick- We can roll up to 3 unused days over to the next year.
*There was a brief period where they changed the system where excess unused vacation time was paid out, but it's probably been close to 20 years when they did away with that.
 
I would have voted OTHER if it had been an option.

The hours in our PTO pool came from three places:
1) Vacation hours. Those unused hours roll over to the next year with no cap and are only paid out when you quit.
2) Sick hours. Those unused hours roll over to the next year with no cap and are only paid out when you quit.
3) Holiday hours, because in TV News holidays are regular work days. Those hours must be used in the year they were earned, they are use it or lose it and are never paid out.

My employer went to PTO in 2019, after a delay of over a year due to California labor laws. Our corporation has 64 locations, only two are in California. Corporate policy was going to be "use it or lose it" for all those hours. No carry over or payout except for hours you had on the books at the time you quit. Use it or lose it for vacation time is illegal in California. Vacation is considered part of your compensation, and all compensation in California MUST be given as time off or cash or allowed to be carried over. Corporate took a year trying to find a way around that law for our two California locations, with every avenue they followed ending with them being told they could not have a use it or lose it policy. So 62 locations outside California, it was lose it or use it, our locations it carried over, we were even on a different payroll system because of it. Corporate decided to lump sick time in with vacation time so unused sick time also carried over. Holiday time being the only thing that is use it or lose it.

My previous employer had 6 owners in the 16 years I worked there, and we were always the only California location. Every ownership change came with a transition period where corporate spent time trying to enforce policies that were illegal in California before giving up. Our location always had a supplement to the handbook that was about a dozen pages explaining what corporate policies did not apply to us..
 
We have PTO only. In my position we can have up to 320hrs, once it goes over you lose it. We accrue it each pay check based on how many hours you worked that paycheck.

DH has separate vacation/sick time. His old boss only let you use sick time if you called out sick for yourself. DH has very rarely called out in his close to 20 years. He has a massive amount of sick time and is always low on vacation time. Thankfully, he got a new boss recently and he lets you use the sick time a little more easily, such as if Dh calls out bc one of our kids are sick.
 
I earn 5 weeks of vacation and 3 weeks of sick leave every year. I can roll over sick leave with no limits. I have about 6 months banked. We can only roll over about 450 hours of vacation time to the next year. I like vacations. I tend to only roll over 150 - 200 hours per year.
 
Rules for vacation time/sick days/etc. likely vary by company and whether you are hourly or salary. Not sure how knowing what other companies do makes any difference in what the company where you work does. Where I work, salary employees get paid even if they are off sick and it is up to their supervisor to manage that sort of thing. HR believes that giving everyone 'sick days' encourages the wrong sort of behavior compared to managing that on your own. It is fairly rare for any salary employee to be off sick. Vacation time has to be used within that calendar year. The amount of vacation you get relates to how long you have worked there. Rules about vacation/sick days/time off for hourly employees are covered by their union contract.
 
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Oh, we also get 4 days of personal time each year (use it or lose it), 11 holidays off, plus 3 days for winter leave (basically the weekdays between Christmas and New Years Eve) and, as of a couple years ago, Spring Break (the same week that our students have off).
 
Previous employer:

Vacation leave: all unused is rolled over. Very high cap but if exceeded, use ir lose it. All paid out at separation

Sick leave: all unused is rolled over, no cap. Time on books at retirement counted towards years of service, some paid out based on a weird formula

Comp time accrued: annual cap, paid out if you accrue to much, paid out at separation.

Current employer:

Vacation leave: all unused is rolled over. Very high cap but if exceeded, use or lose it. All paid out at separation

Sick leave: all unused is rolled over, no cap. Time on books at retirement counted towards years of service

40 hours "Personal Leave": use in calendar year or lose

Comp time accrued: All paid out on some arbitrary date in January or Feb.
 
Rules for vacation time/sick days/etc. likely vary by company and whether you are hourly or salary. Where I work, salary employees get paid even if they are off sick and it is up to their supervisor to manage that sort of thing. HR believes that giving everyone 'sick days' encourages the wrong sort of behavior compared to managing that on your own. It is fairly rare for any salary employee to be off sick. Vacation time has to be used within that calendar year. The amount of vacation you get relates to how long you have worked there.
I was salaried for 16 of my 42 working years. I ran into an issue when I was on Jury Duty. Hourly got two weeks paid time for Jury Duty. I ended up on a trial that went 6 1/2 weeks and the Business manager, after consulting a labor lawyer concluded that, as long as I walked into the building once a pay period, they had to pay me. Walking into the building to pick up my paycheck met that standard. As it was explained to me, salaried means you are being paid to do a job and if you can do it in one minute, or your need 24 hours a day, your pay can't be impacted.
 
I'm a teacher - we get 10 sick days, 3 personal days and 2 emergency days per year.

Sick days roll from year to year and then when we retire, we get paid 1/3 of our daily rate per sick day we cash in. Personal Days roll into sick days if they aren't used. Emergency days (which are pretty much only used for funerals) are use it or lose it.
 
2 "floating holidays" off (no rollover -- I use them first). Then we can roll over 13 days (97.5 hours) into the next calendar year.
 
PTO was use it or lose it. That made it rough because in our department no one could be out the first or last week of the month, more than one week at a time, or more than one person at a time. When Covid shut us down, everyone had between three and six weeks PTO to use per year, so the scheduling was tight.

We could carry over up to six weeks sick time (we received two weeks per year) at which point we stopped accumulating sick time until we used some. Six weeks was just enough time to cover before the short term disability would kick in (company paid plan).
 
Where I work, PTO operates like this:
  • 40 hr of sick time per year. Whatever you don’t use rolls over to the next year but it doesn’t accrue more than 40 hr total
  • Can accrue up to 360 hr of PTO per year (separate from sick time). Whatever you don’t use rolls over to the next year. If you hit the max accrued hours, you don’t get more than that.
  • Usually there’s an option of cashing out some PTO in Dec.
 
I get 5 weeks of PTO. 5 weeks starts after 10 yrs. We used to vacation and sick days but it got merged together a while back.

Can roll over 120 hours. Have to use the extra by pay period covering your service anniversary. For me, that’s Aug 2
 
We have unlimited PTO and no separate sick time. We also have holidays, including 2 floaters.

We do not accrue PTO, nor is any paid on at any time, so it is more of a use it or lose it, I guess?
 












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