Principal 'paddling' first grader for damaging computer

[White Cat]

Florida is a backward thinking State. If Florida is not a part of the USA it certainly will be a 3rd world country.

Projected in several years to have a larger economy than Canada. Your statement is incorrect.

 

[daisy2013]

Projected in several years to have a larger economy than Canada. Your statement is incorrect.

if its still above water.

 

[White Cat]

looks like there is a felony investigation now

Mother or Principal? Both ?

 

[MillauFr]

Projected in several years to have a larger economy than Canada. Your statement is incorrect.

But there would be no Disneyworld if Florida wasn't in the US.

 

[MillauFr]

Mother or Principal? Both ?

The principal and her aid are under investigation. Looks like they broke the rules and will suffer some consequences....

Florida principal caught on tape paddling a 6-year-old - The Washington Post

 

[giulianam]

Chromebooks are so easy to damage too. Unreal!

 

[RedAngie]

Much of rural Florida such as Clewiston is still living in the 1930s.

 

[Welsh_Dragon]

When I was in kindergarten and first grade, I thought that huge wooden paddle was the “Board of Education.”

I know that I shouldn’t laugh, but I couldn’t help it when I read this. That is such literal child reasoning.

 

[starwart]

But there would be no Disneyworld if Florida wasn't in the US.

That is right. No disney, no Nasa, no Miami. Just a wasteland because of the backward mentality. Hahahaha

 

[karen4546]

so your punishment for your child hitting another child... is you hitting (spanking) them? Yup... no confusion here... me (child hit) = bad... parent hit = good

I didn't HIT my children. I spanked them on their bottom. You are being ridiculous. I think I will ignore you now.

 

[sam_gordon]

If you have a situation where the only punishment that would be appropiate or effective is ONLY physical or corperal punishment like spanking etc. I would love to hear of it?

I'm not saying there is a situation where the ONLY appropriate punishment is spanking. But if you try all of the other discipline methods (time outs, loss of privileges, emptying the room, etc) and they DON'T stop the poor behavior, it's possible spanking might.

One thing I can think where an immediate spank gets the point across, is you've taken your child to the park. You're heading to the car, the child gets away from you, and runs out to a busy road. Fortunately you catch them before they run out to the street. Do you punish them? How? Wait until you get home and put them in timeout? If we're talking a young child, I don't know that they'll register the punishment with the crime.

I am not saying a one size fits all. But saying hitting a child is the only effective method of punishment kinda is...

If you can point out where someone has said that, I'll agree with you.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

One thing I can think where an immediate spank gets the point across, is you've taken your child to the park. You're heading to the car, the child gets away from you, and runs out to a busy road. Fortunately you catch them before they run out to the street. Do you punish them? How? Wait until you get home and put them in timeout? If we're talking a young child, I don't know that they'll register the punishment with the crime.

Not that I can't see where that would be a parent's immediate response in the moment of such adrenal but the reason why there could be such a visceral response is because of an outcome that the child may be hit by a car (I'm assuming that is the most common immediate thought), I would wonder if spanking the child because they may have been hit by a car sends the right message. Either way the child has something physical happen to them (although I am not drawing a comparison between damage physically between a parent's hand or belt or whatever in comparison to a vehicle).

 

[daisy2013]

I'm not saying there is a situation where the ONLY appropriate punishment is spanking. But if you try all of the other discipline methods (time outs, loss of privileges, emptying the room, etc) and they DON'T stop the poor behavior, it's possible spanking might.

One thing I can think where an immediate spank gets the point across, is you've taken your child to the park. You're heading to the car, the child gets away from you, and runs out to a busy road. Fortunately you catch them before they run out to the street. Do you punish them? How? Wait until you get home and put them in timeout? If we're talking a young child, I don't know that they'll register the punishment with the crime.


If you can point out where someone has said that, I'll agree with you.

you put them in a time out right there. They sit on the ground or a bench. They will understand that you don’t listen you don’t play. And then the next time you go you remind them what happens if you don’t listen- you sit and watch the other kids have fun. Natural consequences to actions. If it escalates you pack up and go home. You don’t listen you don’t get the fun park.
I have carried my daughter out of the local zoo screaming because she would not listen. The next time we went back, she listened. And even now years later she remembers having to leave.

And if someone has truly tried all discipline techniques and actually done them correctly- sometime a 3 minute time out took 30 minutes to accomplish because my daughter would get up early or not sit calmly- it may be time to speak with a psychologist to determine if there of underlying causes such as ODD or ADHD which may require additional supports

 

[kdonnel]

When I was in kindergarten and first grade, I thought that huge wooden paddle was the “Board of Education.”

In some cases it is!

 

[NotUrsula]

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When I was in kindergarten and first grade, I thought that huge wooden paddle was the “Board of Education.”

It was actually pretty common for people to paint that phrase onto a paddle, you may have actually seen it. (There are paddles like that for sale on Etsy right now.)

 

[daisy2013]

I didn't HIT my children. I spanked them on their bottom. You are being ridiculous. I think I will ignore you now.

Spanking is hitting by an adult to a body part of a child. You are using force to get your way.

 

[Minniesgal]

This is disgraceful

 

[Welsh_Dragon]

It was actually pretty common for people to paint that phrase onto a paddle, you may have actually seen it. (There are paddles like that for sale on Etsy right now.)

I had never heard of the paddle. Here, before it was made illegal, we were caned with a birch or something similarly whippy or a ruler, either across the palm, knuckles or back of legs. Teachers were also prone to throwing wooden backed board dusters and chalk.

 

[sam_gordon]

you put them in a time out right there. They sit on the ground or a bench. They will understand that you don’t listen you don’t play.

They weren't going to play anyway, you were heading to your car to go home.

 

[DisneyJamieCA]

I do think it’s a good thing for a kid to be afraid of disappointing a parent, which is a very powerful consequence. My parents never hit me, but feeling like I didn’t deserve their respect? That I let them down? That there’s a punishment.

I agree, I think it's good for a child to be fearful of disappointing their parents. That is much different than being physically fearful of a parent. The most effective disciplining in my house is when they've realized they've disappointed me.

I didn't HIT my children. I spanked them on their bottom. You are being ridiculous. I think I will ignore you now.

One in the same. And the previous poster has a very good point. Teaching your child not to hit by hitting them (however you want to play semantics with it), sends very mixed messages.