Principal 'paddling' first grader for damaging computer

[easyas123]

I'm sorry...but how does someone freeze, yet have the ability to get out a phone and start recording their child being abused like that? Language barrier or not, at what point do you step in and defend your child from physical harm, and at what point do you just let it happen? Why is it okay to record it and release the recording, but not stop it when it's happening? I get being concerned over your status in this country, but not defending a 6 year old from this?
That's what I don't get...how do you 'freeze' - implying that you were afraid and/or unable to do anything in that moment - yet get out your phone to record it and watch it happen?

 

[wvjules]

I’m sure I’m in the minority on this but I’m still a firm believer in spank/paddling. Not leaving marks of course but “spare the rod, spoil the child.”

By a teacher????

 

[Pink Partridge]

I get being concerned over your status in this country...

No. You really don't.

 

[easyas123]

No. You really don't.

Yes, I do.
Lets just say someone in my family is here, and not legally and leave it at that.
She wouldn't watch her child get beat, I can tell you that.

 

[tzolkin]

I'm sorry...but how does someone freeze, yet have the ability to get out a phone and start recording their child being abused like that? Language barrier or not, at what point do you step in and defend your child from physical harm, and at what point do you just let it happen? Why is it okay to record it and release the recording, but not stop it when it's happening? I get being concerned over your status in this country, but not defending a 6 year old from this?
That's what I don't get...how do you 'freeze' - implying that you were afraid and/or unable to do anything in that moment - yet get out your phone to record it and watch it happen?

My reading was more that she didn’t know what to do to stop it, not that she literally froze. I am certain that if she intervened physically that she would have been arrested for assault and the authorities would have believed the principal over the “illegal” mom. I assume she thought recording so she had evidence was all she could do in the situation without being deported.

 

[wenrob]

I'm sorry...but how does someone freeze, yet have the ability to get out a phone and start recording their child being abused like that? Language barrier or not, at what point do you step in and defend your child from physical harm, and at what point do you just let it happen? Why is it okay to record it and release the recording, but not stop it when it's happening? I get being concerned over your status in this country, but not defending a 6 year old from this?
That's what I don't get...how do you 'freeze' - implying that you were afraid and/or unable to do anything in that moment - yet get out your phone to record it and watch it happen?

I’m trying really, really hard to wrap my head around that. In the video she says, “I sacrificed my daughter so people would know what’s happening at this school.” No. Nooo. I would have been on my feet in a hot second with the verbal assault. They would never have gotten to laying hands on my kid. I don’t think I could have helped myself it would have been a visceral response. But then I’m a middle aged white lady born in this country so I have no idea the intimidation this lady might have felt. I don’t see them even attempting to do something like that in front of me but they seemed fairly confident they could do it to her. She may have felt this was her only option. Still, I imagine a judge is going to want to know why she didn’t attempt to stop it.

 

[wenrob]

My reading was more that she didn’t know what to do to stop it, not that she literally froze. I am certain that if she intervened physically that she would have been arrested for assault and the authorities would have believed the principal over the “illegal” mom. I assume she thought recording so she had evidence was all she could do in the situation without being deported.

This is a good point. The burden of proof would have been on her and who would believe her?

 

[daisy2013]

I’m sure I’m in the minority on this but I’m still a firm believer in spank/paddling. Not leaving marks of course but “spare the rod, spoil the child.”

not all marks are physical.

 

[Pink Partridge]

My reading was more that she didn’t know what to do to stop it, not that she literally froze. I am certain that if she intervened physically that she would have been arrested for assault and the authorities would have believed the principal over the “illegal” mom. I assume she thought recording so she had evidence was all she could do in the situation without being deported.

Exactly. Nobody would have ever believed the mother. I am glad she filmed it, although I wish the assault on the child never happened.

Imagine telling a child to "stick your butt out"? Instructing a child to make private parts more accessible so you can hit them on those private parts. With a large piece of wood. While calling her a brat, demanding money from the mother, and mocking them to call the police. She then talks about how the mom can hit the girl and they would all watch.

This woman is so disgusting.

 

[tzolkin]

I confess I am shocked that corperal punishment is still being used in schools... according to one artilce it is still legal in 19 states... although in this particular county where the incident happened it is not allowed...

Yes, it's still legal in many states and that is something that has bothered me for a while. It is bizarre to me that that many people support allowing an adult to hit their child. One thing to note is that (I know at least it used to be the case in FL) the school has to have the parents' permission to use corporal punishment. Usually there's a form that needs to be signed giving consent (or some schools give a form for you to opt out if you do NOT want your child to be paddled but either way it is the parents' choice).

But then I’m a middle aged white lady born in this country so I have no idea the intimidation this lady might have felt. I don’t see them even attempting to do something like that in front of me but they seemed fairly confident they could do it to her.

This is what really stood out to me. For whatever reason, this principal felt completely confident knowingly breaking the law even when she knew the mother was against the corporal punishment. She seems to have no fear of losing her job or even having the police called on her. She was either 1. expecting this mother to be intimidated enough to not report her or 2. she was confident that if the authorities were brought in that she could lie and they would believe her over the mother and child.

Obviously this would not be better, but you would think that if she were going to illegally hit kids she would do it while no one was watching. I feel like the fact that she did this in front of the mother makes it seem like intimidating and punishing the mother was part of her intention.

 

[Grand Koalafornian]

I’m sure I’m in the minority on this but I’m still a firm believer in spank/paddling. Not leaving marks of course but “spare the rod, spoil the child.”

You’re probably in the minority because it objectively does not work. It not only doesn’t stop problem behavior, but it makes kids more violent. That old saying is flat out wrong.

 

[Pink Partridge]

That old saying is flat out wrong.

It really is.

I usually find people just aren't educated on what hitting a child does to that child. Most like to say "I was spanked, and I turned out ok." But they really didn't. They only learned to hit their own kids and pass the barbaric behavior from generation to generation.

Then the people that think it's ok to use various items to hit a child It is so sad.

 

[TipsyTraveler]

Maybe it’s high time people start taking that stupid saying at face value. Spare the rod — literally, spare the rod, don’t use it. Spoil the child — with love.

As for the video, I hope that horrid woman ends up in jail.

 

[Disneylover99]

It really is.

I usually find people just aren't educated on what hitting a child does to that child. Most like to say "I was spanked, and I turned out ok." But they really didn't. They only learned to hit their own kids and pass the barbaric behavior from generation to generation.

Then the people that think it's ok to use various items to hit a child It is so sad.

I hate that saying. Anytime I hear people say this, I think, well maybe you did turn out ok. But you could have turned out better.

 

[FlightlessDuck]

So how come some of y'all are putting the mom at fault? Do you think she should have taken the paddle and beaten the principal unconscious?

 

[tzolkin]

I usually find people just aren't educated on what hitting a child does to that child. Most like to say "I was spanked, and I turned out ok." But they really didn't.

I hate that saying. Anytime I hear people say this, I think, well maybe you did turn out ok. But you could have turned out better.

Even if people did turn out "fine", the question I always have is what did the spanking accomplish? What value did it add to you developing into an independent, successful, well-adjusted adult? If there's no purpose or benefit to doing something, you don't just continue to do it because you think it doesn't cause any harm.

 

[Pink Partridge]

We as a country also have to ban corporal punishment in schools. It should not be legal anywhere.

What kind of psychopath teacher/principal would feel comfortable hitting a student? Imagine how deranged that person would have to be to go ahead and hit a child with their hands or a piece of wood or a belt. And go about their day like it was a normal thing to do.

Do we really want to give someone like that a legal avenue to abuse a child?

 

[Disneylover99]

Even if people did turn out "fine", the question I always have is what did the spanking accomplish? What value did it add to you developing into an independent, successful, well-adjusted adult? If there's no purpose or benefit to doing something, you don't just continue to do it because you think it doesn't cause any harm.

Really, the only thing I can think of is that people will think they turned out fine. Lol.

 

[Kitty 34]

OK, popping back on here, to comment again AFTER I actually just now watched and heard the video the OP posted. (I had only read about it yesterday)

My goodness......NO child deserves that. Our criminals are treated better.

 

[tzolkin]

Really, the only thing I can think of is that people will think they turned out fine. Lol.

Right, but that argument is discounted by the fact that there are plenty of people who were not spanked who also "turned out fine" so therefore the spanking is not what directly caused that outcome.