Presidential Election

[imabrat]

Hm. What can our next topic be?
DEFINITELY not abortion or gay rights, that never ends well.

 

[chisnpeke]

Hm. What can our next topic be?
DEFINITELY not abortion or gay rights, that never ends well.

Nope, definitely not one of those two.

Education? Environment? War in Iraq? (I don't know how you really debate that though since I think the consensus is that is was a bad bad idea...maybe an exit plan could be though)

ETA: Gun control

 

[imabrat]

Education? Well, I think we all agree NCLB was the worst thing in the history of education. If I go on anymore, I'm going to get on a Bush-bashing tangent, and unfortunately I won't be able to excuse my French.

Gun control I'm very torn about. I think we should have the right to bear arms, but I can't help but feel this right has led to the many shootings and fatalities of our day. I don't have much info on this either.

 

[PinkAnimePrincess]

Obama, all the way.

 

[chisnpeke]

NCLB was a bad move for education. If I didn't pass a state test I wouldn't have been able to graduate high school, regardless of how good my grades are.

Some people aren't good test takers.

 

[Axel]

If they have no money there are government grants. FAFSA.

If you work hard in school there are a lot of scholarships.

I just really truly think that if you want something bad enough and you work hard enough for it you will get it.

Right now, a FAFSA loan is next to impossible to secure. Hundreds of students promised FAFSA loans to go to BC and BU were suddenly denied them right before term started. They're now scrambling to pay for college. Working hard in school =/= scholarship every time. I'm top 15% in my class, an honors student across the board, yet I probably won't qualify for any scholarship money at all.

Because it's a handout. If they need government assistance there is welfare and food stamps. That's MY money that is helping to fund those programs for people who need them.

I'm thankful for what I have but I am not happy about the government taking my hard earned money and giving it away to people who refuse to better themselves. That is a handout.

If you don't pay taxes you shouldn't get a tax cut because you don't pay any! People who don't pay taxes yet get a refund check are getting a government handout, funded by you and me and everyone else who works.

I see welfare and food stamps as handouts by that definition. If they need them, they must not be working hard enough, so why even bother giving them out? Some people need those to get by. If you want to know exactly how hard somebody can work and still need those and to be extraordinarily thankful for a handout like the rebate check, go read "Nickled and Dimed" by Laura Schlissinger. For every person just sitting around doing nothing and mooching off government money, there's probably two working 60 hours a week just to put food on the table.

There is no way we are even close to being a third world country. We are by far the most wealthy country this world has ever seen and I do not believe are going to be overtaken anytime soon. People continue to flock here because the opportunities are so great. No other country can hold that claim.

Actually, we're not the most wealthy country in the world per capita. Exact positions vary, but we tend to hang out around 6th.We're usually behind Luxembourg (first with an average $68,800 GDP), Equatorial Guinea (second with an average $50,200 GDP), United Aram Emirates (third with $49,700 average GDP), Norway (fourth, average GDP: $47,800), and Ireland (fifth with a $43,600 average GDP). The US has a $43,500 average GDP. That's $25,300 less than first place. We've a long way to go.

Education? Well, I think we all agree NCLB was the worst thing in the history of education. If I go on anymore, I'm going to get on a Bush-bashing tangent, and unfortunately I won't be able to excuse my French.

Gun control I'm very torn about. I think we should have the right to bear arms, but I can't help but feel this right has led to the many shootings and fatalities of our day. I don't have much info on this either.

NCLB...ugh. That's all I'm sayin'.

Gun control....eh. I'm in the same position you are. I feel that we should all have the right to own a gun, but I also think it is what leads to so many of the shootings in this country.

 

[I'm a Divaaaaa]

Right now, a FAFSA loan is next to impossible to secure. Hundreds of students promised FAFSA loans to go to BC and BU were suddenly denied them right before term started. They're now scrambling to pay for college. Working hard in school =/= scholarship every time. I'm top 15% in my class, an honors student across the board, yet I probably won't qualify for any scholarship money at all.



I see welfare and food stamps as handouts by that definition. If they need them, they must not be working hard enough, so why even bother giving them out? Some people need those to get by. If you want to know exactly how hard somebody can work and still need those and to be extraordinarily thankful for a handout like the rebate check, go read "Nickled and Dimed" by Laura Schlissinger. For every person just sitting around doing nothing and mooching off government money, there's probably two working 60 hours a week just to put food on the table.



Actually, we're not the most wealthy country in the world per capita. Exact positions vary, but we tend to hang out around 6th.We're usually behind Luxembourg (first with an average $68,800 GDP), Equatorial Guinea (second with an average $50,200 GDP), United Aram Emirates (third with $49,700 average GDP), Norway (fourth, average GDP: $47,800), and Ireland (fifth with a $43,600 average GDP). The US has a $43,500 average GDP. That's $25,300 less than first place. We've a long way to go.



NCLB...ugh. That's all I'm sayin'.

Gun control....eh. I'm in the same position you are. I feel that we should all have the right to own a gun, but I also think it is what leads to so many of the shootings in this country.

this.

 

[JulielovesDisney]

I just votedd!! I recieved my absentee ballot this morning and I just put it in the mailbox after lunch today!! I feel so important!!!
Let's go Obama-Biden!!

 

[Sparx]

Right now, a FAFSA loan is next to impossible to secure. Hundreds of students promised FAFSA loans to go to BC and BU were suddenly denied them right before term started. They're now scrambling to pay for college. Working hard in school =/= scholarship every time. I'm top 15% in my class, an honors student across the board, yet I probably won't qualify for any scholarship money at all.



I see welfare and food stamps as handouts by that definition. If they need them, they must not be working hard enough, so why even bother giving them out? Some people need those to get by. If you want to know exactly how hard somebody can work and still need those and to be extraordinarily thankful for a handout like the rebate check, go read "Nickled and Dimed" by Laura Schlissinger. For every person just sitting around doing nothing and mooching off government money, there's probably two working 60 hours a week just to put food on the table.



Actually, we're not the most wealthy country in the world per capita. Exact positions vary, but we tend to hang out around 6th.We're usually behind Luxembourg (first with an average $68,800 GDP), Equatorial Guinea (second with an average $50,200 GDP), United Aram Emirates (third with $49,700 average GDP), Norway (fourth, average GDP: $47,800), and Ireland (fifth with a $43,600 average GDP). The US has a $43,500 average GDP. That's $25,300 less than first place. We've a long way to go.



NCLB...ugh. That's all I'm sayin'.

Gun control....eh. I'm in the same position you are. I feel that we should all have the right to own a gun, but I also think it is what leads to so many of the shootings in this country.

if me and you team up, and take over the world, we could fix everything in about twenty minutes.

 

[imabrat]

if me and you team up, and take over the world, we could fix everything in about twenty minutes.

Shelby, as sad as this sounds, I really think you could. Our country is in such a pathetic state, even an infant would know how to fix things.

 

[Sparx]

Shelby, as sad as this sounds, I really think you could. Our country is in such a pathetic state, even an infant would know how to fix things.

nah. it'd be really complex. the entire way things run need to be thrown out the window and rewritten. particularly the social security, public education, and welfare systems. i have big issues with all of those. plus our foreign affairs are in the tubes. that needs to be fixed.

but again, me and patti, it could happen in about thirty minutes.

shelby/patti 08

 

[Sparx]

How does the old saying go?
Professionals built the Titanic. Amateurs built the Ark.

this is inscribed on the inside of my class ring. "noah built the ark"

the saying is:
"don't be afraid to try new things. professionals built the titanic; noah built the ark"

 

[Sparx]

I'm with my parents, on the fact that, why should someone who doesn't work nearly as hard and as much as my parents do to support their family get the same health care as us? Like my parents work their asses off to do what's best for our family. And there's people who just...don't. So why should they get equal healthcare if they're not working equally as hard?

because we're human.

humans have basic, unalienable rights. and the right to live healthily is among those. your social status, your job, your outside life should not matter when it comes to health care. health care is something we all need to live. like food and water. i deserve it just as much as you do. no matter my job.

 

[pitt02]

U no how you fix it less government and even though i support McCain he wants to make the government bigger than what it is now but at least its not as big as Obama.

 

[Axel]

if me and you team up, and take over the world, we could fix everything in about twenty minutes.

YEAH!!!!

Shelby/Patti '08.

Vote for it. You know you wanna.

 

[Sparx]

YEAH!!!!

Shelby/Patti '08.

Vote for it. You know you wanna.

write us in!

 

[Disney.Ears]

because we're human.

humans have basic, unalienable rights. and the right to live healthily is among those. your social status, your job, your outside life should not matter when it comes to health care. health care is something we all need to live. like food and water. i deserve it just as much as you do. no matter my job.

Like I said in posts after that original one, I think everyone deserves healthcare. But when it comes down to comparing what 2 people do, and how their income turns out, they shouldn't necessarily get the same quality of healhcare.

 

[imabrat]

Like I said in posts after that original one, I think everyone deserves healthcare. But when it comes down to comparing what 2 people do, and how their income turns out, they shouldn't necessarily get the same quality of healhcare.

Again, why?
Spin the story around.
God Forbid, your dad lost his $250,000 a year job at ABC with BCBS insurance. Now he works a $50,000 a year job with DEF and COBRA insurance. Now he's diagnosed with MS. You think just because he works somewhere else he shouldn't be eligible for top-notch healthcare?

 

[Ppufi]

I agree with Sonya. Everyone should have health care. Getting terminally ill isn't normally something you can protect yourself from, and ANYONE can get it. From the working single mom raising three kids on 300 dollars a month, to the rich corporate giant who makes 300 dollars an hour, we all are the same in the eyes of diseases. Therefore, we should all be allowed to receive the same healthcare.

 

[Disney.Ears]

Again, why?
Spin the story around.
God Forbid, your dad lost his $250,000 a year job at ABC with BCBS insurance. Now he works a $50,000 a year job with DEF and COBRA insurance. Now he's diagnosed with MS. You think just because he works somewhere else he shouldn't be eligible for top-notch healthcare?

My dad isn't someone who would just stay at a $50,000 job knowing he can achieve more success. He would work hard to get back what he lost. Some people don't care, and are lazy sometimes. So why should they be on the same level that my dad has worked really hard for over the years?